Karzai’s legacy thus far

[Kushan Prince]

What are you talking about. this does not exist. Your just making stuff up.

Yes it does exist Khushal and you of all people should know this. The fact is your always in denial mode, just like you denied the Durrani empire and Barakzai dynasty engaging in slavery a year ago.

[khushal]

Yes it does exist Khushal and you of all people should know this. The fact is your always in denial mode, just like you denied the Durrani empire and Barakzai dynasty engaging in slavery a year ago.

If you cant prove it, then we will deny.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

I'm not saying Khushal is always right, not that that's relevant

But he's right in this case. the word "Zanaka Baz" is not even apart of the standard Pashtun vocabulary. In fact NEITHER is Bacha Baz. Bacha Baz is a term primarily used by Dari speaking communities.

Mainly Pashtuns exposed to Dari speakers would use it as a term. In the South no such terms like "Zanaka Baz" or "Bacha Baz" are used as a common expression.

One of the suggested reasons that "Bacha Baz" exists is because of the inaccessibility of women. Now that is debatable, and probably over simplified but one thing is true is that Women are largely OUT of reach for men as a Cultural Norm; THIS would make it virtually IMPOSSIBLE for "Zanaka Baz" as Kushan suggests to be prevalent or even a Norm in Pashtun societies in the South.

Based on the above, Khushal is right, Kushan is making stuff up.

[khushal]

I'm not saying Khushal is always right, not that that's relevant

But he's right in this case. the word "Zanaka Baz" is not even apart of the standard Pashtun vocabulary. In fact NEITHER is Bacha Baz. Bacha Baz is a term primarily used by Dari speaking communities.

Mainly Pashtuns exposed to Dari speakers would use it as a term. In the South no such terms like "Zanaka Baz" or "Bacha Baz" are used as a common expression.

One of the suggested reasons that "Bacha Baz" exists is because of the inaccessibility of women. Now that is debatable, and probably over simplified but one thing is true is that Women are largely OUT of reach for men as a Cultural Norm; THIS would make it virtually IMPOSSIBLE for "Zanaka Baz" as Kushan suggests to be prevalent or even a Norm in Pashtun societies in the South.

Based on the above, Khushal is right, Kushan is making stuff up.

Some of these guys that grew up in the West have been conditioned to think that in order to be "Real Men," they have to exploit women. This is why Kushan is making stuff up. He does not realize that exploiting women is baighyrat. The two Panjabis on this forum think the same way which is why they boasted about how Panjabi women are the most desired prostitutes.

These people need to think before they talk.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Haha that's just an expression and is expressed in poetry. I also asked something similar until a family member explained the meaning of it to me when i was getting the wrong expression. Kind of like "Da zwanan Halekan"

Seriously. Pashtuns are probably the straightest people you will meet in Afghanistan.

Your Pashto grammar is way off even in basic sentences.

Firstly, if you use "zwanan" it means "Youth" as a noun, but if you're using an adjective, it's "Da zwani halekan" if you wanted to say "the youthful boys"

"Da zwanan halekan" would just be the young boys boys, that would just sound ridiculous. How could that be idiomatic? You're so full of crap.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Some of these guys that grew up in the West have been conditioned to think that in order to be "Real Men," they have to exploit women. This is why Kushan is making stuff up. He does not realize that exploiting women is baighyrat. The two Panjabis on this forum think the same way which is why they boasted about how Panjabi women are the most desired prostitutes.

These people need to think before they talk.

He's trying too hard to seem like he's a legit Pashtun, so he can impress his Bangladeshi comrade. You know it's funny, you're not even being insulting, I remember there was a literary forum not too long ago and this Pakistani "Intellectual" from some school in Islamabad, was giving some talk about the "Prestige of Courtesans in Mughal Punjab" Basically going on about the pride and glamor of being a courtesan which is basically a glorified prostitute.

[Kushan Prince]

Some of these guys that grew up in the West have been conditioned to think that in order to be "Real Men," they have to exploit women. This is why Kushan is making stuff up. He does not realize that exploiting women is baighyrat. The two Panjabis on this forum think the same way which is why they boasted about how Panjabi women are the most desired prostitutes.

These people need to think before they talk.

Khushal,

All you are good at doing is accusing people of "making stuff up." I'm not making anything up and quite frankly, i'm getting the impression that you don't want to accept the reality our country is in. To you, Pashtuns have to be these perfect angels that don't commit adultery, don't kill anyone and have to be role models for illterate tajiks and uzbeks when in our people are the one who are accused of being backwards for still clinging on to tribalism.


For the record here is proof of these "zanaka bazi" videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hg_-qRBeYA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbtSAxTvEv4

[Kushan Prince]

Mr. Yemeni, i don't think you understand that your on my Ignore List, therefore any communication with me is futile. Maybe you should take your half assed assertions and shove it up your kuna.

Seriously dude...

[Bengal_Tiger]

Mr. Yemeni, i don't think you understand that your on my Ignore List, therefore any communication with me is futile. Maybe you should take your half assed assertions and shove it up your kuna.

Seriously dude...

Kushan Prince, 100% pure Pashtun owns Arab nationalist, Mahmood Al-Yemeni a.k.a Brown Skinned Savage a.k.a Herat a.k.a Revulsion Through Ranting a.k.a ScimitarXEdge.

lol.





Anyway everyone knows that Mahmood al-Yemeni is jealous of Kushan Prince a pure Pashtun and also obsessed with him which is why he has been stalking him on this forum for years and years.

The saddest part is that Kushan Prince views the Arab nationalist as trivial and unimportant, a pest whose drivel he doesn't want to read.

lol.

[khushal]

Khushal,

All you are good at doing is accusing people of "making stuff up." I'm not making anything up and quite frankly, i'm getting the impression that you don't want to accept the reality our country is in. To you, Pashtuns have to be these perfect angels that don't commit adultery, don't kill anyone and have to be role models for illterate tajiks and uzbeks when in our people are the one who are accused of being backwards for still clinging on to tribalism.


For the record here is proof of these "zanaka bazi" videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hg_-qRBeYA

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbtSAxTvEv4

Those are farsiwan. you fail.

Try again.

[کیش]

@Bengal_Meerkat



100% Pasthun is better than an Arab nationlist. Why is that. you probably have me in blocked so someone else can answer it.

Mahmoud brings alot of views to the table. i do not agree with like 90% of it but atleast he has it unlike you.

So whats it to you

[Kushan Prince]

Those are farsiwan. you fail.

Try again.

They are Farsiwan? No they are not, especially not the first video where "ma mrey" is heard which is typical Kandahari slang. Really though, way to blame Tajiks for all our problems!

The thing is i am trying to be unbiased and neutral as possible even when it comes to Pashtuns who's culture is far from perfect. Many pre-islamic practises are still held amongst our people that go against the teachings of Islam.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Those are DEFINITELY Farsiwan

That girl does not look like a woman from Kandahar

and they're playing Qataghani, Pashtuns don't do Qataghani in Kandahar

The SONG is in farsi; MOST Kandaharis don't understand Farsi.

[khushal]

Come on Kushan,
I mean no offense, but everything about that video smells of farsiwan. Your making stuff up. there are probably some pashtuns that sit down to watch this but it is considered baighyrat in pashtun culture so therefore this is not pashtun culture.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Those are farsiwan. you fail.

Try again.

Dude ...... As this Bangladouchey cheerleader claims Kushan's 100% Pashtun

but he can't tell the difference between a Farsi song and a Pashto song. The song in the first one labeled "Afghan Girl dance at Home in Kandahar" the song is in farsi most Pashtuns don't communicate or sing in Farsi in Kandahar.