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  • #16
    Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
    they don't want afg, they wanted afg to respect pakistan existence and give up loy afghanistan drama, As for kashmir, paks wants to liberate it from indian rule give choice to either to join or stay as ally state(italy-vatican style), they feel same for us, so u stay out of it, just talk about afghanistan, it's ur forte
    You just contradicted yourself. If they wanted a Khilafah and they didn't believe in borders like you said, why would they "respect pakistan existencce?"

    And regarding Kashmir, it's clear what happened. The struggle began as a popular nationalist movement against Indian occupation, until the establishment hijacked it and Islamized it with their proxies.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
      bro not all duranni speak pashto, my ex girlfriend from highschool was durranay and spoke farsi?she was from quetta, so is she iranay or durranay?

      btw i like your new suffixes
      Like i said , if you dont speak pashto , you should be at least invested in Afghaniyat and your actions and mindset shouldnt be against Pashtuns/Afghans and their watan. Kushan Prince doesnt speak Pashto , but he is tied to Pashtun qaum and is more fierce in his pashtun nationalism than me and other Pashto speaker. Toramana is paracha but is part of pashtun nation just like Bilour family is. The punjabay asad durrani and Mohajir Saulat Mirza yusufzai, on the other hand , do not belong to us, wo aapko mubarak ho.
      [URL="http://historyofpashtuns.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/afghan-sikh-wars.html"][SIZE=5][COLOR=Green]History of Pashtuns[/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL]

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      • #18
        Taliban were by no measure the Khilafa type but a more traditional islamist type. They differed on every level from their Al-Qaida affiliates and there is vast amount of literature available on the issue. Whether their traditionalist (Pashtun)-islamist outlook might have changed in the future is different question. One way or the other most Afghans are familiar and knew them (Taliban) as they know who and what their current government is about. They weren't aliens. There are videos of Taliban and their views of Pakistan; twisted they might be but sense of "Pashtuness" deep and internal to them.

        I strongly reckon that once they had consolidated themselves within Afghanistan, a conflict with Pakistan might have been inevitable. In fact Pakistanis do not trust them and neither do the Talibs truly and deep down trust Pakistan. Pakistan is wary of a scenario where if and when Talibs and other Afghans resolve their differences, their very relationship with Talibs might be uncertain which is as much as a marriage of circumstance.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Yousufzai View Post
          You just contradicted yourself. If they wanted a Khilafah and they didn't believe in borders like you said, why would they "respect pakistan existencce?"

          And regarding Kashmir, it's clear what happened. The struggle began as a popular nationalist movement against Indian occupation, until the establishment hijacked it and Islamized it with their proxies.
          we want afg govt, any govt whether ghani or kharzai or mullahs, to respect border and layoff loy afghanistan

          it was islamized since times of gulab singh & then after partition, it was muslim oriented, the ethnic angle subsided tho now returning but last 70 years that' how it was, so it's not establishment who hijack it

          "I bow to no one, except ALLAH. I dont bow to punjabay, do not bow to kabulay and afghanay, do not bow to faujay and mullay, do not bow to asfandyarwalay and petty khanays...i am traitor to all of them." - Smartay

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
            Taliban were by no measure the Khilafa type but a more traditional islamist type. They differed on every level from their Al-Qaida affiliates and there is vast amount of literature available on the issue. Whether their traditionalist (Pashtun)-islamist outlook might have changed in the future is different question. One way or the other most Afghans are familiar and knew them (Taliban) as they know who and what their current government is about. They weren't aliens. There are videos of Taliban and their views of Pakistan; twisted they might be but sense of "Pashtuness" deep and internal to them.

            I strongly reckon that once they had consolidated themselves within Afghanistan, a conflict with Pakistan might have been inevitable. In fact Pakistanis do not trust them and neither do the Talibs truly and deep down trust Pakistan. Pakistan is wary of a scenario where if and when Talibs and other Afghans resolve their differences, their very relationship with Talibs might be uncertain which is as much as a marriage of circumstance.
            Pay attention to this analysis; its informed, smart, and honest devoid of the usual conspiracy mongering by people to justify their hate of "the other." Bravo.
            "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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            • #21
              Many Pakis who have surnames Durrani, Mughals, Quraishi, Bukhari etc. necessarily are not descendant of these people.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
                Pay attention to this analysis; its informed, smart, and honest devoid of the usual conspiracy mongering by people to justify their hate of "the other." Bravo.
                But they really are the most ignorant type of mother fvckers you could find anywhere in the world.

                Believe me there are other groups within Afghanistan who I have more disdain for than Talibs. I have nothing personal against them.

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                • #23
                  Taleban are just savages. They don't belong in the 21st Century.

                  Having said that there is no doubt that this General Durrani is just an imposter -his roots may lie east of Wahga like most of the people of Punjab.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
                    we want afg govt, any govt whether ghani or kharzai or mullahs, to respect border and layoff loy afghanistan
                    You just answered my question with a demand, lol.

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                    • #25
                      General Durrani's grotesque boasting and self-confidence and officially declaring Pakistan as a terror-sponsoring state might be coming from high degree of fear and anxiety. Pakis are wankers at the highest level.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
                        Many Pakis who have surnames Durrani, Mughals, Quraishi, Bukhari etc. necessarily are not descendant of these people.
                        actually they do, but they've mixed.

                        Only Quraishis are local, but Bukharis originate from Bukhara from times of Turk rule & Durranis from Afghan settlements, if you meet durranis in paki, they look differen't from other punjabi/urduspeakr, i know a few, they're not pure; some paki durrani i know speak farsi, and don't care about pashtuness
                        "I bow to no one, except ALLAH. I dont bow to punjabay, do not bow to kabulay and afghanay, do not bow to faujay and mullay, do not bow to asfandyarwalay and petty khanays...i am traitor to all of them." - Smartay

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                        • #27
                          asfandyar wali mentioning mullah omar's stance on durand line with reference of nasirullah babar
                          [URL="http://historyofpashtuns.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/afghan-sikh-wars.html"][SIZE=5][COLOR=Green]History of Pashtuns[/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL]

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
                            actually they do, but they've mixed.

                            Only Quraishis are local, but Bukharis originate from Bukhara from times of Turk rule & Durranis from Afghan settlements, if you meet durranis in paki, they look differen't from other punjabi/urduspeakr, i know a few, they're not pure; some paki durrani i know speak farsi, and don't care about pashtuness
                            Haha some Durranis in Pakistan speaks Farsi. You are an epic liar you muppet.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
                              actually they do, but they've mixed.

                              Only Quraishis are local, but Bukharis originate from Bukhara from times of Turk rule & Durranis from Afghan settlements, if you meet durranis in paki, they look differen't from other punjabi/urduspeakr, i know a few, they're not pure; some paki durrani i know speak farsi, and don't care about pashtuness
                              Mix this and mix that, your usual non-sense but the fact remains that this asad durrani is punjabay like you and has nothing to do with Afghans.
                              [URL="http://historyofpashtuns.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/afghan-sikh-wars.html"][SIZE=5][COLOR=Green]History of Pashtuns[/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL]

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                              • #30
                                Most are not. I know Pakis who are nothing but 100% Pakis/Panjabis etc. with some of the those surnames.

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