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  • #16
    I find it hilarious that whatever people do, or follow a particular ideology/lifestyle, they will be criticized by the opposition and labeled a ''foreign puppet''.

    Lets get back to the reality. None of them are ''foreign puppets''. They all have their own goals, with their approach to achieve the goal.

    In Karzai's case, his motto was ''my enemies enemy is my friend''. Since Pakistan supported/supports insurgency inside Afghanistan, we can all guess who the enemy and friend is.

    Ghani have the opposite motto, ''hold your friend close and your enemies closer''.

    Lets break the reality into pieces.
    We had a Pakistani critic government, and now a Pakistani friendly government. Then there is the people. The Pakistani excuse for the former government was the fact it were Indian friendly. Which apparently justified their enmity against Afghanistan in their eyes.
    Now we have a Pakistani friendly government, and Pakistan have no justification to support insurgency in Afghanistan.
    Right now the question is, what will the consequences be for Pakistan if a Pakistani friendly Afghanistan fails.
    1. It will justify Afghanistan's hostility toward Pakistan in the past, present and future.
    2. It will prove that Pakistan's support for insurgency in Afghanistan isn't based upon ''unfriendly government'', but rather the fact that Pakistan want Afghanistan under their absolute control, and a friendly afghan government was never their motive, but rather an excuse.
    3. Afghanistan will never become Pakistani friendly, and will probably align with India and use that ''alliance'' for full benefit of both India and Afghan government.

    So to sum it up. This new approach to be Pakistani friendly will show Pakistani willingness for peace and prosperity. If it works, then both countries can enjoy the full benefits of peace, and an Afghan government who is free from Indian influence. If not, then Pakistan can expect that it will be dragged down by Afghanistan, and have an Afghan government who is Indian friendly in an extreme sense.

    The purpose of this post is to remind you guys, that there is no ''foreign stooge'', but rather a reaction to an action. Basically cause and effect.
    Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

    People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

    ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
    Ronald Reagan

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cmZyOrUA0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9sz0nPePI

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    • #17
      Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
      I find it hilarious that whatever people do, or follow a particular ideology/lifestyle, they will be criticized by the opposition and labeled a ''foreign puppet''.

      Lets get back to the reality. None of them are ''foreign puppets''. They all have their own goals, with their approach to achieve the goal.

      In Karzai's case, his motto was ''my enemies enemy is my friend''. Since Pakistan supported/supports insurgency inside Afghanistan, we can all guess who the enemy and friend is.

      Ghani have the opposite motto, ''hold your friend close and your enemies closer''.

      Lets break the reality into pieces.
      We had a Pakistani critic government, and now a Pakistani friendly government. Then there is the people. The Pakistani excuse for the former government was the fact it were Indian friendly. Which apparently justified their enmity against Afghanistan in their eyes.
      Now we have a Pakistani friendly government, and Pakistan have no justification to support insurgency in Afghanistan.
      Right now the question is, what will the consequences be for Pakistan if a Pakistani friendly Afghanistan fails.
      1. It will justify Afghanistan's hostility toward Pakistan in the past, present and future.
      2. It will prove that Pakistan's support for insurgency in Afghanistan isn't based upon ''unfriendly government'', but rather the fact that Pakistan want Afghanistan under their absolute control, and a friendly afghan government was never their motive, but rather an excuse.
      3. Afghanistan will never become Pakistani friendly, and will probably align with India and use that ''alliance'' for full benefit of both India and Afghan government.

      So to sum it up. This new approach to be Pakistani friendly will show Pakistani willingness for peace and prosperity. If it works, then both countries can enjoy the full benefits of peace, and an Afghan government who is free from Indian influence. If not, then Pakistan can expect that it will be dragged down by Afghanistan, and have an Afghan government who is Indian friendly in an extreme sense.

      The purpose of this post is to remind you guys, that there is no ''foreign stooge'', but rather a reaction to an action. Basically cause and effect.
      Excellent post.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Black Pakistani View Post
        No.

        All of us should be one big country called South Asia - the identity of which is based on the brown colour of our skin and not on religion or language.

        Balochistan is Pakistan, KPK and FATA are Pakistan. Punjab is Pakistan.
        We are all Pakistani now and you Afghans are also a part of us.
        No, I am Afghan and if you choose to be Pakistani, then so be it, but please don't decide my nationality and ethnicity for me. Have a good day.

        Following your logic, why not be a big country called Earth? Brown people are found in South Asia to the Middle east and all the way to Southern America. Making a country based on skin colour is stupid.
        Last edited by pashtanajan; 03-16-2015, 05:26 AM.
        True wisdom comes to each of us when we realize how little we understand about life, ourselves, and the world around us. - Socrates

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        • #19
          I think we should make a country based on whether you're left handed

          Right handers GTFO!

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