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  • #16
    USSR was collapsed mainly because of communism. Afghans and other Islamists were used as gun powder by US only in Afghanistan not in other countries. National interest prevail everywhere and I salute US for ensuring its national interest almost always.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Toramana View Post
      Absolutely agree Khostai. The issue isn't the human rights. If it fits the interests of US and some other powerful Western countries then worst dictatorship and the most reactionary forces are ok. And if it is not in the interests of the US etc., the best democracy can be bad.

      Look at it like this.

      After World War II, USSR emerged the West's most powerful and deadly foe that had the military capacity to decimate the West in a confrontation apart from having the power to contain its global influence. For 40 years, West in particular Europe lived in the fear of communist expansion yet by 1990s the West was able to defeat the mightiest foe in history.

      Yes USSR was West's mightiest foe that the West was able to defeat without having to shed a single drop of the blood of any of its citizen. Imagine, if the West had to defeat or confront USSR at its own ground either in Central Europe or Eastern Europe, what would be its cost in terms of human life?

      One can guess the cost from the scale of destruction in WWI and WWII when a significant portion of European population perished.

      But who paid the cost for West's victory over its powerful foe?

      These were Afghans in particular and Muslims in general. About two to three millions of them were killed and their land was devastated. And Afghans in particular and Muslims in general still are bearing the consequences of that war.

      Afghans were the ultimate losers.

      And who were the winners? The West was the winner. The collapse of USSR lead to the destruction of Berlin wall and the unification of Germany. East Europe was liberated and West Europe was secured. WARSAW pact ceased to exist whereas NATO became more powerful and together with European Union and North-Atlantic Treaty Organization(established in 1991 after the collapse of USSR), expanded.

      West in particular US had no rival power to face to re-order the world according to its wishes.

      The guys in Dresden Germany that are organizing anti-Muslim rallies don't know that their freedom from the iron-clutches of communist system under USSR has come at a huge cost to humanity in another part of the world.

      One may argue in wars beneficiaries are sometimes others instead of the victors. But Afghan War in the first place had been instigated by the US to give USSR its Vietnam and to "fight Russians till last Afghan". According to Zbegniew Brzezinski interference in Afghanistan and Soviet central Asian republics had been deliberately started by US to provoke Russians into invading Afghanistan.

      But can we expect any remorse from the West? Not at all. Powers throughout history have been very brutal and have not abstained from using other innocent human beings as proxies for their interests. Unfortunately, the West has taken the disregard for humanity to yet a higher level whence it thinks that the millions of "the other humanity" can be sacrificed for the preservation of the "its gene" and its "superior civilization" as couched in the social Darwinist theories that it has developed over the centuries.

      The right thing would be to exterminate all Islamists, mullahs, terrorists that are undermining us and that are possibly being used against us and to get modernized as soon as possible.
      I don't think it is possible to get rid of those people, we have to live with them, thats just what our reality is now.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Khostai View Post
        I don't think it is possible to get rid of those people, we have to live with them, thats just what our reality is now.
        True wroora. For now yes. But not in the future.
        To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Toramana View Post
          Absolutely agree Khostai. The issue isn't the human rights. If it fits the interests of US and some other powerful Western countries then worst dictatorship and the most reactionary forces are ok. And if it is not in the interests of the US etc., the best democracy can be bad.

          Look at it like this.

          After World War II, USSR emerged the West's most powerful and deadly foe that had the military capacity to decimate the West in a confrontation apart from having the power to contain its global influence. For 40 years, West in particular Europe lived in the fear of communist expansion yet by 1990s the West was able to defeat the mightiest foe in history.

          Yes USSR was West's mightiest foe that the West was able to defeat without having to shed a single drop of the blood of any of its citizen. Imagine, if the West had to defeat or confront USSR at its own ground either in Central Europe or Eastern Europe, what would be its cost in terms of human life?

          One can guess the cost from the scale of destruction in WWI and WWII when a significant portion of European population perished.

          But who paid the cost for West's victory over its powerful foe?

          These were Afghans in particular and Muslims in general. About two to three millions of them were killed and their land was devastated. And Afghans in particular and Muslims in general still are bearing the consequences of that war.

          Afghans were the ultimate losers.

          And who were the winners? The West was the winner. The collapse of USSR lead to the destruction of Berlin wall and the unification of Germany. East Europe was liberated and West Europe was secured. WARSAW pact ceased to exist whereas NATO became more powerful and together with European Union and North-Atlantic Treaty Organization(established in 1991 after the collapse of USSR), expanded.

          West in particular US had no rival power to face to re-order the world according to its wishes.

          The guys in Dresden Germany that are organizing anti-Muslim rallies don't know that their freedom from the iron-clutches of communist system under USSR has come at a huge cost to humanity in another part of the world.

          One may argue in wars beneficiaries are sometimes others instead of the victors. But Afghan War in the first place had been instigated by the US to give USSR its Vietnam and to "fight Russians till last Afghan". According to Zbegniew Brzezinski interference in Afghanistan and Soviet central Asian republics had been deliberately started by US to provoke Russians into invading Afghanistan.

          But can we expect any remorse from the West? Not at all. Powers throughout history have been very brutal and have not abstained from using other innocent human beings as proxies for their interests. Unfortunately, the West has taken the disregard for humanity to yet a higher level whence it thinks that the millions of "the other humanity" can be sacrificed for the preservation of the "its gene" and its "superior civilization" as couched in the social Darwinist theories that it has developed over the centuries.

          The right thing would be to exterminate all Islamists, mullahs, terrorists that are undermining us and that are possibly being used against us and to get modernized as soon as possible.

          Very good analyst Grana wroor. When I tell Afghans who fought against their own brothers/sisters and home country, that they were used and are sheep's they take it as a lie and that they defended "Islam". Same ISIS mentally ignorance fools, they don't attack Israel or Saudi whoores who drink, buy white women as sex slaves, have 50-100 wifes. But kill ordinary Muslims who live in the way of Islam 1000 times better than any people in Saudi Arabia or Israel who kills Muslims all day. Pity the ignorance cowards.


          In Afghanistan these mullahs and former mujaheddins, are now its all okey to work with westerns, be their *****es have bacha bazis conserts etc. But be an ally of Russia it was a Big NO? Hahaha love the mindset of mujaheddins sometimes, like kids or some of them animals can't handle their instincts. Hope they burn in hell with their Saudi Kings.
          To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Loy Afghanistan View Post
            True wroora. For now yes. But not in the future.
            I don't think their is a future.

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            • #21
              An excellent write up where it is proved that IS and Saudi Arabia follow the same Islam.

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