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    Its hard to believe that ISIS is a creation of the CIA for the purpose of expanding the Israeli empire. The Israeli military back in 02-03 was telling the US not to depose Saddam. They argued that Saddam is good for the security of Israel. They also told the US to support Mubarak in Egypt, also vital for the security of Israel.

    The middle East is used as a laboratory by what Eisenhower warned the people about, The Military Industrial Complex.

    A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction...
    This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every statehouse, every office of the federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military–industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals so that security and liberty may prosper together.
    The alert and knowledgeable citizenry no longer exists.

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