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    By Hamid Shalizi and Jessica Donati KABUL (Reuters) - Afghanistan's retired president, Hamid Karzai, meets his successor almost every day and advises him on key policy issues, he said in an interview,...


    Retired Afghan leader meets, advises successor 'almost daily'

    By Hamid Shalizi and Jessica Donati

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    KABUL (Reuters) - Afghanistan's retired president, Hamid Karzai, meets his successor almost every day and advises him on key policy issues, he said in an interview, a role that could raise concerns in the West over ties with Kabul.

    The former leader's relationship with the United States deteriorated sharply towards the end of more than a decade in power, but any hope foreign governments had of Karzai slipping quietly into retirement would appear to be misplaced.

    Speaking at his large compound in the capital Kabul, Karzai said he still saw himself as a figure to be reckoned with in Afghan politics, despite stepping down four months ago.

    "President Ashraf Ghani and I are meeting very, very often. Or, almost daily," said the 57-year-old scion of an influential Afghan family, who was handpicked by the United States and its allies to rule after the Taliban was overthrown in 2001.

    "So it's a relationship that I fully enjoy and have respect for... (On) the issues that have significance to the whole of the Afghan people, I'll be there," he told Reuters in a recent interview. "That's where we meet and discuss, and it's a very good cooperation."

    Nazifullah Salarzai, Ghani's spokesman, said the two men met frequently.

    "President Ghani meets the former Afghan president on a regular basis and seeks his consultations on most national and international issues," he said.

    Karzai added that his lifestyle had changed little despite retiring, as he continued to host tribal and religious elders, lawmakers and government officials to discuss current events.

    TROUBLE MAKER VS. PEACEMAKER?

    Once the darling of the international community, Karzai turned troublemaker with fervently anti-Western speeches in his later years in power and by resisting U.S. pressure to sign a crucial security treaty.

    Ghani's leadership stands in stark contrast: the former World Bank official has proven a friend to Washington, is less prone to angry public outbursts and is blunt with staff he feels are falling short in their duties.

    Ghani's first major act as president was to sign the U.S. security agreement allowing a limited number of troops to remain in Afghanistan now the combat operation is over.

    The bulk of NATO forces left Afghanistan before an end-2014 deadline, and Afghan security forces must cope with a vicious insurgency by Taliban militants that has killed thousands of people this year, and an economy hugely reliant on aid.

    Kabul-based political analyst Bashir Bezhan said there was a risk that Ghani's strong ties with the international community could weaken if Karzai wielded too much influence.

    "Our ties with the West, especially with the U.S., were deeply damaged," Bezhan said. "I think President Ashraf Ghani should move forward, not look back."

    Karzai would not go into detail about what advice he gave Ghani, but he criticized the United States.

    "I hope (the United States) will change and they will now focus entirely on helping and building a stronger, better Afghanistan," he said.

    A senior official in Karzai's former administration who remains close to him said U.S. relations were discussed.

    "Karzai tells Ashraf Ghani to be very cautious dealing with the U.S. and (that he) must react quickly and strongly when they breach the (security) agreement," said the source, who declined to be named.

    KARZAI CALLS FOR UNITY

    Asked whether Washington was worried by Karzai's active role in politics, a senior U.S. administration official said:

    "The United States is confident that President Ghani and Chief Executive (Abdullah) Abdullah are forging an inclusive, effective government that is responsive to all Afghans."

    Bette Dam, author of "A Man and a Motorcycle", a book on how Karzai came to power, said it was not surprising the former leader was still so active politically.

    "Karzai will, as much as he can, represent his tribe to maintain power for them, something that might not always be in the interest of Ghani," Dam said.

    "But Karzai is more powerful, and that's why Ghani needs to take him more seriously and deal with it, (whether) he wants to or not."

    In his interview, Karzai urged Afghans to be patient, as Ghani and his de facto deputy Abdullah, previously locked in a long dispute over this year's election outcome and how to share power, tried to form a government acceptable to both.

    "Both the president and the CEO must be given time to make their decisions and appoint the people they consider to be right for their position," Karzai said.

  • #2
    And that answers one of Hallo's comments as why foreign powers like to eliminate Karzai.

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    • #3
      Karzai for presidency next term again!!! 8>

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      • #4
        Correction: Karzai is not a retired Afghan leader. He is retired puppet.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by khushal View Post
          Correction: Karzai is not a retired Afghan leader. He is retired puppet.
          You could have said something constructive Khushal.

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          • #6
            Karzai and Erdogan are my heroes although I don't agree with his Islamization propensities but I like the fact that he is a patriotic leader of Turkey and not survival like Sauds are.

            Karzai is also a smart and patriotic leader.

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            • #7
              Pashtuns hate Karzai and Farsiwans love him. What does that tell you.

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              • #8
                His own village hates him:


                While Panjshiri leaders have built panjshir into a powerhouse.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
                  Karzai for presidency next term again!!! 8>
                  karzai should ask putin how he did it :D
                  faye's chauffeur

                  Pashton's girlfriend

                  I'm a Pashtun Princes


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                    Karzai and Erdogan are my heroes although I don't agree with his Islamization propensities but I like the fact that he is a patriotic leader of Turkey and not survival like Sauds are.

                    Karzai is also a smart and patriotic leader.
                    it's not jsut a propensities its islamization of trukey! no freedom of speech, no freedom of journalists, no freedom for women, he change normal school into religious school step by step
                    ottoman language is introducing in the schools step by step
                    he wants to unite all turkish people to a new ottoman empire
                    he is deep in love with hamas who are muslimbrother and the bases of all islamsits group
                    faye's chauffeur

                    Pashton's girlfriend

                    I'm a Pashtun Princes


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Hallo View Post
                      it's not jsut a propensities its islamization of trukey! no freedom of speech, no freedom of journalists, no freedom for women, he change normal school into religious school step by step
                      ottoman language is introducing in the schools step by step
                      he wants to unite all turkish people to a new ottoman empire
                      he is deep in love with hamas who are muslimbrother and the bases of all islamsits group
                      If Erdogan has lifted hijab ban from turkey whats israel s problem? Women were oppressed before.Now they sre free to wear it.Women couldnt wear scarfs and hijsbs and they had to go for private system of education which was costly.Erdogan made easy for locals.Ottoman empire had been in turkey before.Arabic as well turkish ll be taught...a dual benefit.What has this to do with israel or usa?

                      Hamas or no hamas...there is no army for palestenians to protect them from time to time attacks,killings and kidnappings of palestenians in west bank and gaza at the hands of israelis.Have you any shame left to atleast condemn the killing of 2000 innocent palestenians and still ongoing torture of them?
                      sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

                      And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by khushal View Post
                        His own village hates him:
                        http://www.aboardthedemocracytrain.c...es-on-karz-aid

                        While Panjshiri leaders have built panjshir into a powerhouse.
                        The war in the start was against majority of Pashtuns. While the filthy mongols-turks and half breeds panshejirs got support from USA/Porki/NATO/ISAF/IRAN etc. The good and pure Pashtuns was alone. Like always we have always been.

                        This war is not 1 state vs the Pashtuns. It is at least 90-100 different states and organisations against the mighty Pashtun race. Why Pashtuns are loosing so much in this war is simply because they are not united and it is impossible to keep up against so many parasite hordes against our noble Pashtun soil.

                        We are a target from all around. But I am 100 % certain we will be victors and slowly we will start purifying the whole Pashtun/Ariana soil and even stretch our boundaries deep into other borders in the future. Keep calm and do miracles = Pashtun babies.

                        Only Pashtuns must survive the disgusting future of globalisation and half breed new cultures. After that, the world + space would be in our grand grand children's hands.

                        I write this today but in 100 years or so. I predict that Pashtun will be the new kings/rulers of "Saudi Arabia" and the new Islamic world etc. those baboons are finished when oil will not be as important in the future.

                        Porkis would be finished when Iran-India-China are tired of them sucking on the ass off USA/UK/NATO and boosting terrorist attacks in these countries.
                        To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Hallo View Post
                          it's not jsut a propensities its islamization of trukey! no freedom of speech, no freedom of journalists, no freedom for women, he change normal school into religious school step by step
                          ottoman language is introducing in the schools step by step
                          he wants to unite all turkish people to a new ottoman empire
                          he is deep in love with hamas who are muslimbrother and the bases of all islamsits group
                          Turkish race will be alone in the future. Why? I am not talking about "racism" or bullcrap. But the facts. Majority of Europeans doesn't like mongols-turks, to be fair they will give birth to a new Hitler to cleanse Europe from non Europeans. Today their far right wings are getting more and more power, even the USA are afraid of this, because they will loose power over Europe. Greeks hates the, Iranian races hates them the most, even arabs doesn't like them. China doesn't like them either because of many terrorist projects on their west provinces. Slavic Russians must deal with them, because majority of Russia will share mongol-turk gene-pool in the future.

                          I don't see any good future for them. Hopefully they will collapse. I know for sure those countries that are against globalisation will be intact, the rest will slowly fall and break up into minor states.
                          To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Hallo View Post
                            karzai should ask putin how he did it :D
                            Putin is my Hero for sure. Why? He and his crew made Russia independence. In just 6 years and made it back to a super power in just 10 years.

                            If "Putin" was born Afghan/Pashtun (پاڅون), I would give my life for him, to make Afghanistan and later Loy Afghanistan into a power that almost compete with Powers like Iran, India.

                            What a man he would be in Pashtun history.
                            To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Hallo View Post
                              it's not jsut a propensities its islamization of trukey! no freedom of speech, no freedom of journalists, no freedom for women, he change normal school into religious school step by step
                              ottoman language is introducing in the schools step by step
                              he wants to unite all turkish people to a new ottoman empire
                              he is deep in love with hamas who are muslimbrother and the bases of all islamsits group
                              So is Saudistan and other Shiekhdoms not to mention Al-Sisi's Egypt where there are neither elections nor any shred of freedom of speech or freedom of journalism. So why not hue and cry about that as well? Or is that Erdogan is not that servile as these others despots are? And if Europe can unite as an exclusive white Christian club so what is wrong if the states of the people of Turkish origin have greater collaboration with each other?

                              And if every European state can use its own traditional vernacular as a language of instruction so much as that Israel revives the dead Hebrew as a symbol of its national identity why such am alarm over the revival of Ottoman language? Or is it that we like control freaks want every body else on the face of earth do what we say or is in our interests?
                              Last edited by Toramana; 01-05-2015, 09:46 PM.

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