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    The other thread got spammed with insults, so I will state a few other reason in this one.

    A country can have bad habits, but in Pakistan's case it is beyond normal. There is a particular bad thing regarding Pakistan, which annoys people who are effected by it, or rather it is killing the people it effects.

    Under the soviet war in Afghanistan, the Pakistani government radicalized the Pashtun population both in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Which basically turned Pashtuns into extreme mindless Islamists. Pakistan were quite happy with that, despite it effecting, not only Afghans, but also 30+ million Pashtuns in Pakistan. At least they were, until the war on terror.

    You people may wonder why I mention this. Let me explain.

    The Pakistani government have been turning its own population into extremist, then later on killed them off, when Pakistan sided with the Americans.

    The problem isn't the fact that Pakistan have been hunting Taliban, but rather the fact they were the one who created them in the first place. Now I know this an old story, but hear me out.

    What I am complaining about isn't the fact that they are hunting Taliban, nor the fact that they created them. What I am complaining about is the fact that the government isn't taking the responsibility, and the people are simply turning a blind eye to it.

    We hear allot of people shouting and insults the Taliban, which is fair and I agree with them, but have anyone ever for a second complained about the Pakistani government who created them in the first place...

    Let me give you an example. When a bomb explode and kills many people. Will you blame the bomb, or the person who planted the bomb...

    It is the exact same thing. The Pakistani people planted(created) the Taliban, then allied itself with the enemy of Taliban. Obviously the Taliban will explode(fight the Pakistani government), yet you people blame the Taliban, but not the one who created them...

    I am in no way saying that the Taliban is good people, or they action is excusable. I am just saying people should realize that the Taliban aren't the only one to blame.

    I honestly don't care if one hates Pakistan or not, nor am I suggesting that people should. All I am saying, that people should recognize that Pakistani government have been involved in indirectly killing thousands of their own people, and have effected millions.

    Whether you like Pakistan or not, is solely up to you, but recognizing the Pakistani governments involvment in the killings is important regardless of your political position toward Pakistan. One need to make the government recognize their involvement, and make the people aware of it, so it can be avoided next time.
    Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

    People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

    ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
    Ronald Reagan

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cmZyOrUA0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9sz0nPePI

    Pashto dictionary:
    http://thepashto.com/index.php

  • #2
    Thats what i have been talking about. double game, hypocrisy, murder, killings done by pakistani authorities.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
      The other thread got spammed with insults, so I will state a few other reason in this one.

      A country can have bad habits, but in Pakistan's case it is beyond normal. There is a particular bad thing regarding Pakistan, which annoys people who are effected by it, or rather it is killing the people it effects.

      Under the soviet war in Afghanistan, the Pakistani government radicalized the Pashtun population both in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Which basically turned Pashtuns into extreme mindless Islamists. Pakistan were quite happy with that, despite it effecting, not only Afghans, but also 30+ million Pashtuns in Pakistan. At least they were, until the war on terror.

      You people may wonder why I mention this. Let me explain.

      The Pakistani government have been turning its own population into extremist, then later on killed them off, when Pakistan sided with the Americans.

      The problem isn't the fact that Pakistan have been hunting Taliban, but rather the fact they were the one who created them in the first place. Now I know this an old story, but hear me out.

      What I am complaining about isn't the fact that they are hunting Taliban, nor the fact that they created them. What I am complaining about is the fact that the government isn't taking the responsibility, and the people are simply turning a blind eye to it.

      We hear allot of people shouting and insults the Taliban, which is fair and I agree with them, but have anyone ever for a second complained about the Pakistani government who created them in the first place...

      Let me give you an example. When a bomb explode and kills many people. Will you blame the bomb, or the person who planted the bomb...

      It is the exact same thing. The Pakistani people planted(created) the Taliban, then allied itself with the enemy of Taliban. Obviously the Taliban will explode(fight the Pakistani government), yet you people blame the Taliban, but not the one who created them...

      I am in no way saying that the Taliban is good people, or they action is excusable. I am just saying people should realize that the Taliban aren't the only one to blame.

      I honestly don't care if one hates Pakistan or not, nor am I suggesting that people should. All I am saying, that people should recognize that Pakistani government have been involved in indirectly killing thousands of their own people, and have effected millions.

      Whether you like Pakistan or not, is solely up to you, but recognizing the Pakistani governments involvment in the killings is important regardless of your political position toward Pakistan. One need to make the government recognize their involvement, and make the people aware of it, so it can be avoided next time.


      What you state is part of it, the core of issue is Pakistan being successor of British Raj for Afghanistan. If you read Ali Jenah speech in 1948 you will see what he calls as “freedom of tribal area” is actually continuation of forward policy of British Raj against Afghanistan and Pashtons! To this day the same continues! What you see as Taliban are actually the yarning of Pashton nation for unification. Do you know when Karzai ask Gen Kayani what you Pakistani want, Kayani reply was---we want the Pashtons of Pakistan to look upon Islamabad instead of Kabul as their capital.
      The partitions of Hindustan was due to Muslim League claim of Hindu and Muslims being two distinct nation—thus justifying the creation of Pakistan—but what about Pashton and Baloch? Why they were cut off their brothers with British imposed Durand line?
      I’m optimistic that I will see the day of union of lar aw bar afghans in my life time…the status quoe is unsustainable any longer..the war have effectively moved into Pakistan and it will end in Pakistan inshallah!



      ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
      نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

      چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
      نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

      سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
      بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

      چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
      يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

      سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
      په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

      ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
      اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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      • #4
        Pakis are the most ignoble and debased people on the face of earth. They have got no character and integrity. What can one expect from a nation which was constructed to fulfill West's imperial machination. And this hybrid "Da Bannu Mazdigar" just epitomizes that-vile to the core.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
          The other thread got spammed with insults, so I will state a few other reason in this one.

          A country can have bad habits, but in Pakistan's case it is beyond normal. There is a particular bad thing regarding Pakistan, which annoys people who are effected by it, or rather it is killing the people it effects.

          Under the soviet war in Afghanistan, the Pakistani government radicalized the Pashtun population both in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Which basically turned Pashtuns into extreme mindless Islamists. Pakistan were quite happy with that, despite it effecting, not only Afghans, but also 30+ million Pashtuns in Pakistan. At least they were, until the war on terror.

          You people may wonder why I mention this. Let me explain.

          The Pakistani government have been turning its own population into extremist, then later on killed them off, when Pakistan sided with the Americans.

          The problem isn't the fact that Pakistan have been hunting Taliban, but rather the fact they were the one who created them in the first place. Now I know this an old story, but hear me out.

          What I am complaining about isn't the fact that they are hunting Taliban, nor the fact that they created them. What I am complaining about is the fact that the government isn't taking the responsibility, and the people are simply turning a blind eye to it.

          We hear allot of people shouting and insults the Taliban, which is fair and I agree with them, but have anyone ever for a second complained about the Pakistani government who created them in the first place...

          Let me give you an example. When a bomb explode and kills many people. Will you blame the bomb, or the person who planted the bomb...

          It is the exact same thing. The Pakistani people planted(created) the Taliban, then allied itself with the enemy of Taliban. Obviously the Taliban will explode(fight the Pakistani government), yet you people blame the Taliban, but not the one who created them...

          I am in no way saying that the Taliban is good people, or they action is excusable. I am just saying people should realize that the Taliban aren't the only one to blame.

          I honestly don't care if one hates Pakistan or not, nor am I suggesting that people should. All I am saying, that people should recognize that Pakistani government have been involved in indirectly killing thousands of their own people, and have effected millions.

          Whether you like Pakistan or not, is solely up to you, but recognizing the Pakistani governments involvment in the killings is important regardless of your political position toward Pakistan. One need to make the government recognize their involvement, and make the people aware of it, so it can be avoided next time.
          Look brother no one denies the dirty game played by pakistani and american govt in great game.And what they got ...in the end they themselves were kicked out by americans a lesson they learnt that if you betray your brother in islam...you ll face tge same one day.I d slightly like to correct you about islam card...remeber no true muslim no matter how bad he is ..ll not use islam card for personal gains.So those who did this must be answering for their deeds in graves.And only sold out clerics d such a thing.But secukars in the endgot whatthey wanted.
          Alwaysgo for masterminds of plots.Masyermindswhile plotting never careas to who is used and where.

          None of us deny the tragedy that afg pashtuns ve went through but does it mean we should stop finding solutions? Does it mean pakistan should give up on rest of pashtuns to those cia parasites? Esp when people themselves dont want. You are lamenting over afg i am telling you pakistan has yet to see alot.Pashtuns in pakistan esp.
          Had there been no ubl or pakistan...still they would ve gone for pashtuns and their lands.It doesnt matter who neighboured them.Indians were the first at that time jumping for help desoite no border with afg but it had to go over pakistani areas air field...which pak was obliged to give way to cia or americans.Though there could ve a 3rd way.I see afg pashtuns cheering for indians but forget thesame past about them how they were dying to help americans bomb afghans.
          They had to make numbers infront of usa too.


          I still believe there is way out...but education for pashtuns is a must right now...because very lil time is left now.
          sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

          And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Toramana View Post
            Pakis are the most ignoble and debased people on the face of earth. They have got no character and integrity. What can one expect from a nation which was constructed to fulfill West's imperial machination. And this hybrid "Da Bannu Mazdigar" just epitomizes that-vile to the core.
            Who cares about your sentiments? Smh.
            Shpito shi vishto shi
            Awya shi chutya shi...
            sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

            And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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            • #7


              See how americans admit what they do to those whom they use....This is war of gas,oil,banking system and world dominion..
              sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

              And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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