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    Pakistani spy agency’s relations with militants blamed for school massacre
    Some see ISI’s ambiguous approach towards different groups in effort to counter Indian influence as fuelling attacks.

    Within days of a militant attack earlier this year on the Indian consulate in the western Afghan city of Herat, intelligence officials in Kabul and Delhi were told by their US counterparts that communication intercepts indicated that the Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Toiba group (LeT) was responsible.

    A lucky shot from a guard had hit the leader of the assault team, giving defenders time to prepare and the four attackers had all been killed. US officials said they had aimed to take hostages and cause a drawn-out crisis intended to destabilise India’s new prime minister, Narendra Modi, just days after his landslide election win.

    The new details of the operation will be seen as further evidence of the close relationship between LeT and Pakistan’s security establishment.

    LeT was responsible for a 2008 attack on the Indian commercial capital of Mumbai in which around 170 people were killed by militants who had arrived by boat from the southern Pakistani port city of Karachi. A key figure in the attack told US and court officials that middle-ranking officials from the Pakistani military’s Directorate of InterServices Intelligence (ISI) had at very least facilitated the assault.

    Western intelligence officials also believe the ISI has close relations with the Afghan Taliban and the Haqqani network, an insurgent faction which has repeatedly struck international targets in Afghanistan.

    “There have been intelligence reports that link the ISI particularly to the Haqqani network,” Joseph Dunford, the commander of US and Nato forces in Afghanistan, said in April.

    The ISI also maintains links with a range of sectarian groups within Pakistan and outfits primarily focussed on fighting Indian security forces in Kashmir.

    Some blame these continuing relationships for the carnage at the army-run school in Peshawar on Tuesday.

    The link is indirect. Few say that there is any connection between the Pakistan Taliban (TTP), the rough coalition of groups that has claimed responsibility for the attack, and the country’s security establishment.

    “The military formally and institutionally considers the TTP as an enemy of the state as it has killed many soldiers over the years,” said Michael Kugelman of the Woodrow Wilson centre in Washington.

    Pakistan’s use of certain militant groups as strategic assets, however, makes concerted action against others impossible, according to Ajai Sahni, an Indian security analyst.

    “If you allow space for armed Islamist groups you can’t really distinguish one from another,” Sahni said.

    The policy of using militants as auxiliaries goes back to the earliest days of the new Pakistani nation and its partition from India following independence from Britain. Such forces were seen by the new country’s military commanders as an effective way of countering their eastern neighbour’s huge demographic, economic and military advantage. They have played a key role in Pakistan’s four wars with India. Auxiliaries were also deployed in Kashmir in the 1990s. When hundreds of Pakistani militants infiltrated across the de facto frontier in the disputed Himalayan territory in 1999, they sparked the most recent overt conflict.

    Indian police documents seen by the Guardian reveal LeT’s logistical assistance to militant networks engaged in acts of terrorism in recent years in the emerging economic power.

    In Afghanistan, the ISI has long tried to use often fractious Afghan insurgents to extend Pakistani influence and restrict India’s in the country. In the winter of 2001, as thousands of fighters fled into Pakistan, the country’s policymakers drew a clear distinction between Afghan Taliban, seen as assets and allies, volunteer fighters often from hardline Pakistani sectarian groups who were sent home, and al-Qaida operatives who were held and given to the US in return for bounty. Over the next decade, Afghan insurgent groups, bolstered by fighters from LeT and other Pakistan-based outfits, were then “managed” as they fought international troops.

    Angry US officials warned Pakistan of the potential consequences of its policies.

    “You can’t keep snakes in your backyard and expect them only to bite your neighbours. Eventually those snakes are going to turn on whoever has them in the backyard,” Hilary Clinton, then the US secretary of state, told reporters on a 2011 visit to Pakistan.

    The Pakistani army, increasingly a target of homegrown militants, has been fighting the Pakistan Taliban since 2008 in a series of bitter campaigns along the frontier with Afghanistan. Casualties have been heavy and officers cite the many killed to rebut accusations that they are soft on terrorists. Many commanders believe that India backs their enemies. Recent statements by senior Pakistani soldiers and a long-awaited offensive launched in June into the key militant redoubt of North Waziristan, where the Haqqani network is based, has led some to argue that a major change in policy was already underway before this week’s attack on the school.

    Nawaz Sharif, Pakistan’s prime minister, has said that henceforward there would be “no differentiation between ‘good’ and ‘bad’ Taliban” and that “the war against terrorism [will go on] ‘til the last terrorist is eliminated.” Despite the tacit admission of previous errors, many onlookers remain unconvinced.

    “The strategy will continue until there’s a peace deal with India, and that won’t be soon,” said Kugelman.

    For Sahni, Pakistan’s policy of using militants as proxies is “entrenched”.

    “They will go after the TTP hammer and tongs, and leave the rest untouched,” he said.


  • #2
    toramana stari mashay.
    dera moda pas.sanga ye?

    True.The pakistani spy agencies transported the terrorists to the army public school.The checkpoints of army in sarounding areas were told to allow these zombies to cross.
    Do,nt you think pashtun as a nation is dead?
    Even ,,changaryaans,,may have more gerat and gutts then pashtuns.
    In waziristan the punjabi army bombing empty shops,schools and houses.'
    Not a single terrorist was killed.
    The attackers on army public school had a break in governer house.
    There a nice photo was taken with isi owned mulla on the lush green grass and then the army safely transported them to kill children.
    Most of the pashtuns working in army are sell out,corrupt thugs and this was a reminder from punjabi establishment that no matter how lick the boots of punjabis at the end of the day your statuse will be far worst then street dogs.
    Young female students in new Dehli told the bbc that why the parents and people of kp are so coward.why do,nt they come out and defend their children .
    In swat region till this day the army making fun of swati male in front of wife.
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,murga bun jaw,,,,,,,,,,,,is very famous saying of punjo army in swat.
    Still swatians loved punjabi army and napakistan.

    I think pashtuns deserve this suffering.

    wali khan said 25 years ago ,,,,,,,,,,,da kom wor chi pa kabul ki dwe lagawolay day yawa wraz ba pakay pekhawor hum swazi.....
    pashtuns helped punjabis to inaved afghanistan and now it is time for pay back.
    May allah bless the flowers/children of school and staff members.
    They were unlucky to born in the house of dead and coward pashtuns.



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    be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
    hamza baba
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    • #3
      All isi owned madrasas needed to be demolished .
      If pashtuns have gutts then they should come out and at least speak against these zombies/terrorists.
      I have no expectation that pashtuns will ever pick up guns against army and isi but at least come out and expose the policies of punjab to the world.
      The US is still supporting the napak army and terrorists.
      That mean this is part of a big game.



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      gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
      be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
      hamza baba
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      • #4
        I was also thinking the same thing that ISI was behind the attack, but then i thought that was ridiculous, now i'm glad to see am not the only that thought this.
        "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

        -Old Pashtun proverb




        "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
          I was also thinking the same thing that ISI was behind the attack, but then i thought that was ridiculous, now i'm glad to see am not the only that thought this.
          stari mashay.
          they are fully exposed to the world but it is part of the US startigic war so the west will never blame pakistan.
          Pashtuns will be blamed and killed.
          we never defend our own interests.
          This is what happen when a nation become dead .
          They killed 70 pashtuns in paktika in volley ball match,what happend?
          nothing
          samething here.Nothing will happen soon the zombies will kill our people.
          Extremists and their masters are fighting dirty war on pashtun soil.



          Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

          pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
          be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
          gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
          be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
          hamza baba
          پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
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          • #6
            pashtuns love arabization .it is also a fact.
            Look it tajiks,uzbiks,azaras in afg.
            Same in pak the sindis,punjabis and Baluch kept distance from them.



            Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

            pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
            be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
            gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
            be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
            hamza baba
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            • #7
              toramana,you know,we will not allow you in our dream pashtun land
              "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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              • #8
                Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
                stari mashay.
                they are fully exposed to the world but it is part of the US startigic war so the west will never blame pakistan.
                Pashtuns will be blamed and killed.
                we never defend our own interests.
                This is what happen when a nation become dead .
                They killed 70 pashtuns in paktika in volley ball match,what happend?
                nothing
                samething here.Nothing will happen soon the zombies will kill our people.
                Extremists and their masters are fighting dirty war on pashtun soil.
                Atleast i agree with the part that pakistani politicians ll never be blamed by west because they serve their masters...However...generalising masses wont help much.
                Yeah..pashtuns only ll suffer because they are their real target...But inshAllah much less time is left...and they know it thats why in a hurry doing oppression on both sides.
                sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

                And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
                  toramana stari mashay.
                  dera moda pas.sanga ye?

                  True.The pakistani spy agencies transported the terrorists to the army public school.The checkpoints of army in sarounding areas were told to allow these zombies to cross.
                  Do,nt you think pashtun as a nation is dead?
                  Even ,,changaryaans,,may have more gerat and gutts then pashtuns.
                  In waziristan the punjabi army bombing empty shops,schools and houses.'
                  Not a single terrorist was killed.
                  The attackers on army public school had a break in governer house.
                  There a nice photo was taken with isi owned mulla on the lush green grass and then the army safely transported them to kill children.
                  Most of the pashtuns working in army are sell out,corrupt thugs and this was a reminder from punjabi establishment that no matter how lick the boots of punjabis at the end of the day your statuse will be far worst then street dogs.
                  Young female students in new Dehli told the bbc that why the parents and people of kp are so coward.why do,nt they come out and defend their children .
                  In swat region till this day the army making fun of swati male in front of wife.
                  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,murga bun jaw,,,,,,,,,,,,is very famous saying of punjo army in swat.
                  Still swatians loved punjabi army and napakistan.

                  I think pashtuns deserve this suffering.

                  wali khan said 25 years ago ,,,,,,,,,,,da kom wor chi pa kabul ki dwe lagawolay day yawa wraz ba pakay pekhawor hum swazi.....
                  pashtuns helped punjabis to inaved afghanistan and now it is time for pay back.
                  May allah bless the flowers/children of school and staff members.
                  They were unlucky to born in the house of dead and coward pashtuns.
                  pa khairuna gadoonwala, sanga haal dai? hila laram chai kha ba yayai. yaya pa dai school pa waqia der khapa yama, dai isi munga der kharab kro.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                    toramana,you know,we will not allow you in our dream pashtun land
                    so you want pashtunland to become a safe heaven for terror.
                    Pakistan is the mother of terror.
                    They forced waziris out of waziristan so they can train and send more terrorists to afghanistan.
                    Pakistan is promoting and supporting terrorists all over the region.
                    I hope oneday pashtuns and other victims of pakis wake up and demolish every sign of punjabi country in our holy land.
                    ISI and pakistani army killed 65 thousands pashtuns for dollars.
                    Not a single terrorist was killed .
                    The police arest them and the isi in few hours of time release the zombies.
                    DOWN WITH TALIBS,DOWN WITH ISI AND PAKI ARMY



                    Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

                    pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
                    be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
                    gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
                    be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
                    hamza baba
                    پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
                      so you want pashtunland to become a safe heaven for terror.
                      Pakistan is the mother of terror.
                      They forced waziris out of waziristan so they can train and send more terrorists to afghanistan.
                      Pakistan is promoting and supporting terrorists all over the region.
                      I hope oneday pashtuns and other victims of pakis wake up and demolish every sign of punjabi country in our holy land.
                      ISI and pakistani army killed 65 thousands pashtuns for dollars.
                      Not a single terrorist was killed .
                      The police arest them and the isi in few hours of time release the zombies.
                      DOWN WITH TALIBS,DOWN WITH ISI AND PAKI ARMY
                      Pashtunland is gonna see lot of wars and bloodshed tbh...ISI/Raw or hindutva or khawarij etc are in pockets of zionists.Atleast isi is a bit resisting ...raw sits and eat with them.
                      sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

                      And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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                      • #12
                        once again I call on all Pashtuns that ,,isi,, supporting terrorists.They have the full support of pak army.
                        The dollars are coming for strategic war more and more Pashtuns are dying.
                        This is not afghanistan
                        This is not india
                        This is Pakistan killing innocents Pashtuns.
                        If Pashtuns of both side have any guts then come out and defend your people or you guys will see more bloodshed.
                        One million strong forces of Pakistan and agents spread all over pashtunland.
                        They are killing us and then blaming others for our killing.
                        we Pashtuns of both side are the victims of this dirty war .
                        No one cares for us.
                        Parsibans ,Punjabis and others are living peaceful lives .it is us suffering.
                        Defend your people no matter any side.



                        Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

                        pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
                        be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
                        gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
                        be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
                        hamza baba
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
                          No one cares for us.
                          True.
                          Except Allah.Today pashtuns are standing alone for their survival.Our media is sold.They are trying best to present pashtuns secular.Govt and army,he terrorists from neighbouring countries all want to use them.Most importantly..black water.I ve yet to see them to be punished.They are most active.
                          sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

                          And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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