Pashtun Genocide and NDS,how to stop them

[Rubi]

I don't understand why these people who claim they are Muslims would kill other Muslims.

[ghumbasa]

TTP themselves released this picture. They look as Pashtun as Pashtun can be. What will you say now?

Then they are as much misguided as those uzbeks...ttp has uzbeks,agents and every type of people promoting violence..why highlighting pashtuns only? Or you think pashtuns are free from crimes? Extremism has taken them as much as other ethnics.And extremists kn8ws no islam or humanity.

[Friends of Baloch]

Then they are as much misguided as those uzbeks...ttp has uzbeks,agents and every type of people promoting violence..why highlighting pashtuns only? Or you think pashtuns are free from crimes? Extremism has taken them as much as other ethnics.And extremists kn8ws no islam or humanity.

Everybody has known for over 20 years that napakistan is the epicenter of terrorism. Taliban all originate from Darul Uloom Haqqania and now there are many more such paki terrorism academies for brainwashing the poor to go and fight the punjabis' unholy wars for them

BBC News - The school that says Osama Bin Laden was a hero
By Mobeen Azhar
BBC World Service, Islamabad

A hardline cleric in Pakistan is teaching the ideas of Osama Bin Laden in religious schools for about 5,000 children. Even while the Pakistani government fights the Taliban in the north-west of the country, it has no plans to close schools educating what could be the next generation of pro-Taliban jihadis.

"We share the same objectives as the Taliban but we don't offer military training. We work on minds. The Taliban are more hands-on," says Abdul Aziz Ghazi, imam of Islamabad's controversial Red Mosque.

"We teach about the principles of jihad. It's up to students if they want to get military training after they leave here. We don't discourage them."

Ghazi runs eight seminaries - madrassas as they are known - the first of which was founded after his father went on a journey to meet Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan.

"Osama Bin Laden is a hero for us all. He stood up to America and he won. He inspired the mission of the school," says Ghazi.

In one of the seminaries, the library is named in honour of Bin Laden, who was killed by US Navy Seals in Pakistan in 2011.

Ghazi, his mosque and his seminaries, have come a long way since 2007, when the Pakistani army was sent to lay siege to the radical mosque, and later stormed it. The events left 100 dead, including many militants, and Ghazi's younger brother, mother and son.

Ghazi himself became known as the "Burka Mullah" after he was caught trying to escape wearing a woman's face veil and robe as a disguise.

Now 3,000 girls and 2,000 boys are studying at his institutions.

The syllabus is a heavy mix of Koranic recitation, Arabic and theology. Science, maths and arts are seen as "worldly" and barely feature. Many of the schools core texts have been written by Ghazi and printed within the seminaries' own printing room. The shortest courses are 12 months long but students can also enrol in an eight-year programme that delivers imam status upon graduation.

"The Taliban ran Afghanistan very well. They created a just society that was the envy of the world," says 24-year-old Abdullah who will graduate from the imam school next year.

He too cites Osama Bin Laden as his inspiration. His interpretation of Islam recommends stoning, public executions and limited access to education for women.

"We all have the same aim - to create a society in which there is no corruption. We want justice for everyone. The only way to achieve that is through Sharia law and an Islamic state," he says.

Abdullah is one of 18 imams who will graduate from the school in 2015, in order to carry these ideas into communities across Pakistan.

The school provides free boarding, food and medical care to all its students.

As a result, the vast majority of students come from lower-income families, mostly from Pakistan's north-western tribal belt. Some parents rely on the seminary to provide full-time care for their children.

At the girls' campus, male staff teach girls from concealed concrete booths via a tannoy system - they may sometimes teach the students for five years without ever meeting or even seeing them.

Ghazi insists the school receives no big grants, only small donations.

"People contact me from across Pakistan to make a donation. Recently someone donated a house. Other people donate a few thousand rupees or a car. They donate because they support what we are trying to do."

In principle, the Pakistani state should provide a free education for all children who are of school going age, but the UN estimates that 5.1m children in Pakistan are currently not in any form of formal education - which means ripe pickings for the 14,000 madrassas in the country run by mosques and charities.

Abdus Samad, from the northern village of Gurzangi, has sent his 12-year-old daughter to the Red Mosque seminary - despite the fact that his brother was murdered by the Taliban, for refusing to join their ranks.

The Taliban divides opinion in Pakistan. The country has been becoming more conservative and the religious right is powerful. Many people would regard a crackdown on madrassas as a crackdown on Islam.

At the same time many ordinary Pakistanis are being forced to recognise - after incidents such as a failed attempt by militants to take over Karachi airport in June - that the Taliban does pose a threat to stability.

Earlier this year the government launched an anti-Taliban military operation in Waziristan - in the tribal areas close to the Afghan border - but it has shied away from concerted attempts to prevent the Taliban influencing Pakistani society.

The president who ordered the attack on the Red Mosque in 2007, Gen Pervez Musharraf, argues that this is a mistake.

"We spent a long time negotiating with the Ghazi brothers but they were holding Islamabad and the government to ransom. We had to take action," he says, in justification of his own actions, for which he now faces criminal charges.

"It's the responsibility of the current government to suppress terrorism and extremism. It has to be dealt with a strong arm. It's a mind-set and we have to take measures to control influencing of mind-sets."

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

^^^ Tu hamesha hi kameena rahega.

[ghumbasa]

Everybody has known for over 20 years that napakistan is the epicenter of terrorism. Taliban all originate from Darul Uloom Haqqania and now there are many more such paki terrorism academies for brainwashing the poor to go and fight the punjabis' unholy wars for them

BBC News - The school that says Osama Bin Laden was a hero
By Mobeen Azhar
BBC World Service, Islamabad

A hardline cleric in Pakistan is teaching the ideas of Osama Bin Laden in religious schools for about 5,000 children. Even while the Pakistani government fights the Taliban in the north-west of the country, it has no plans to close schools educating what could be the next generation of pro-Taliban jihadis.

"We share the same objectives as the Taliban but we don't offer military training. We work on minds. The Taliban are more hands-on," says Abdul Aziz Ghazi, imam of Islamabad's controversial Red Mosque.

"We teach about the principles of jihad. It's up to students if they want to get military training after they leave here. We don't discourage them."

Ghazi runs eight seminaries - madrassas as they are known - the first of which was founded after his father went on a journey to meet Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan.

"Osama Bin Laden is a hero for us all. He stood up to America and he won. He inspired the mission of the school," says Ghazi.

In one of the seminaries, the library is named in honour of Bin Laden, who was killed by US Navy Seals in Pakistan in 2011.

Ghazi, his mosque and his seminaries, have come a long way since 2007, when the Pakistani army was sent to lay siege to the radical mosque, and later stormed it. The events left 100 dead, including many militants, and Ghazi's younger brother, mother and son.

Ghazi himself became known as the "Burka Mullah" after he was caught trying to escape wearing a woman's face veil and robe as a disguise.

Now 3,000 girls and 2,000 boys are studying at his institutions.

The syllabus is a heavy mix of Koranic recitation, Arabic and theology. Science, maths and arts are seen as "worldly" and barely feature. Many of the schools core texts have been written by Ghazi and printed within the seminaries' own printing room. The shortest courses are 12 months long but students can also enrol in an eight-year programme that delivers imam status upon graduation.

"The Taliban ran Afghanistan very well. They created a just society that was the envy of the world," says 24-year-old Abdullah who will graduate from the imam school next year.

He too cites Osama Bin Laden as his inspiration. His interpretation of Islam recommends stoning, public executions and limited access to education for women.

"We all have the same aim - to create a society in which there is no corruption. We want justice for everyone. The only way to achieve that is through Sharia law and an Islamic state," he says.

Abdullah is one of 18 imams who will graduate from the school in 2015, in order to carry these ideas into communities across Pakistan.

The school provides free boarding, food and medical care to all its students.

As a result, the vast majority of students come from lower-income families, mostly from Pakistan's north-western tribal belt. Some parents rely on the seminary to provide full-time care for their children.

At the girls' campus, male staff teach girls from concealed concrete booths via a tannoy system - they may sometimes teach the students for five years without ever meeting or even seeing them.

Ghazi insists the school receives no big grants, only small donations.

"People contact me from across Pakistan to make a donation. Recently someone donated a house. Other people donate a few thousand rupees or a car. They donate because they support what we are trying to do."

In principle, the Pakistani state should provide a free education for all children who are of school going age, but the UN estimates that 5.1m children in Pakistan are currently not in any form of formal education - which means ripe pickings for the 14,000 madrassas in the country run by mosques and charities.

Abdus Samad, from the northern village of Gurzangi, has sent his 12-year-old daughter to the Red Mosque seminary - despite the fact that his brother was murdered by the Taliban, for refusing to join their ranks.

The Taliban divides opinion in Pakistan. The country has been becoming more conservative and the religious right is powerful. Many people would regard a crackdown on madrassas as a crackdown on Islam.

At the same time many ordinary Pakistanis are being forced to recognise - after incidents such as a failed attempt by militants to take over Karachi airport in June - that the Taliban does pose a threat to stability.

Earlier this year the government launched an anti-Taliban military operation in Waziristan - in the tribal areas close to the Afghan border - but it has shied away from concerted attempts to prevent the Taliban influencing Pakistani society.

The president who ordered the attack on the Red Mosque in 2007, Gen Pervez Musharraf, argues that this is a mistake.

"We spent a long time negotiating with the Ghazi brothers but they were holding Islamabad and the government to ransom. We had to take action," he says, in justification of his own actions, for which he now faces criminal charges.

"It's the responsibility of the current government to suppress terrorism and extremism. It has to be dealt with a strong arm. It's a mind-set and we have to take measures to control influencing of mind-sets."

I dont follow bbc...until its to be presented to a kaffir or secular since they follow them alot.

[ghumbasa]

Neither is islam is the source of evil as you are trying to promote...Come up with any such teaching i ll contradict you...but dont act like stupid mixing islam with extremism.Just like computer can used to bring about positive or negative uses...so is case with islam...some sell out islam for personal desires...so atleast search islam in detail before blaming it.

[Friends of Baloch]

Neither is islam is the source of evil as you are trying to promote...Come up with any such teaching i ll contradict you...but dont act like stupid mixing islam with extremism.Just like computer can used to bring about positive or negative uses...so is case with islam...some sell out islam for personal desires...so atleast search islam in detail before blaming it.

Nobody said anything about Islam, this is just your cheap and two faced paki tactic to try and divert the conversation away from the real issue.

napakistan is the source of evil and you pakis bring only shame and disgrace to the name of Muslims with your vile terrorism and backwardsness.

I dont follow bbc...

You dont have to. They will continue reporting better and more accurate news while you pakis keep your heads wrapped up under your saris too afraid to confront the truth.

Stupid dal khor pakis, never willing to behave like normal humans and always living in fantasy.

[ComradePashtun]

You demented Pakis. What is the fuss? Blame yourselves, your army and that terrorist mafia called the ISI!

You two ghumabasa and Da Banu Dalal la'natis are as devious as your strategic depth scribblers and terrorist benefactors. You need to do some soul searching your terrorist lovers and killers of 142 inoccent children. Shame on you pathetic people.

[ComradePashtun]

The chicken has come home to roost, you ****bag Pakis!!!!

Taliban, strategic depth and supporting terrorist who have wrought destruction and death of thousands and thousands in Afghanistan. The same monster has turned on you. This is the result of breeding jihadism and extremism against others and the snake is biting you back. This is the direct result of collaborating with kafir NATO and US whilst not enforcing the true sharia and "Islami nezam"you have been preaching these monsters.

[ghumbasa]

Nobody said anything about Islam, this is just your cheap and two faced paki tactic to try and divert the conversation away from the real issue.

napakistan is the source of evil and you pakis bring only shame and disgrace to the name of Muslims with your vile terrorism and backwardsness.



You dont have to. They will continue reporting better and more accurate news while you pakis keep your heads wrapped up under your saris too afraid to confront the truth.

Stupid dal khor pakis, never willing to behave like normal humans and always living in fantasy.

Come up with proofs in discussions like a decent person not monkey...Daal is a blessing of Allah too.So off with your arrogance ....

[ghumbasa]

You demented Pakis. What is the fuss? Blame yourselves, your army and that terrorist mafia called the ISI!

You two ghumabasa and Da Banu Dalal la'natis are as devious as your strategic depth scribblers and terrorist benefactors. You need to do some soul searching your terrorist lovers and killers of 142 inoccent children. Shame on you pathetic people.

Why blame ourselves when we have accussors like you and the bunch of foul mouthed arrogants here...why take the blame of others on ourselves khushak mara...

The chicken has come home to roost, you ****bag Pakis!!!!

Taliban, strategic depth and supporting terrorist who have wrought destruction and death of thousands and thousands in Afghanistan. The same monster has turned on you. This is the result of breeding jihadism and extremism against others and the snake is biting you back.

Admit it you seculars can play dirty politics for your desires....oh you must be some communist with this cap.

[ComradePashtun]

Blame of who you hypocrite cow? Who the hell is Taliban? They are the product and hard work and resources of your establishment! No one on this earth has any ear for you than to blame yourself although many would refrain from the condemnation that your army and ISI deserve and people like and this Da Banu Dawoos their puppets at this time and moment.

Shame on you for perverting what is truth. You and Da Banu Dawoos are despicable lot covering up for terrorists and their benefactors the ISI and blaming it on ANDS. Piss off.

[ComradePashtun]

Pakis like you two and other terrorist lovers should burn in hell. You losers.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

NDS days are numbered.

A message is being sent to Ashraf Ghani,do it or we will do it.

The destruction we can bring upon them would be much more catastrophic than the treatment of Nato with soft gloves

Our people are killed and we mean business,anything else we will even bomb the hell out of ANA.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Pakis like you two and other terrorist lovers should burn in hell. You losers.

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