Musharraf: we will use Afghan Pashtuns for proxy war against India

[Al-Afghani]

India and Pakistan have long accused each other of using proxy forces to try to gain influence in Afghanistan.

While India has tried to gain traction with the Tajik ethnic group, which dominates in northern Afghanistan, Pakistan has been accused of using its leverage with the Pashtuns of the country's south and east who make up the majority of the Taliban.

“If Indians are using some elements of the ethnic entities in Afghanistan, then Pakistan will use its own support for ethnic elements, and our ethnic elements are certainly Pashtuns,” Musharraf said.


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[Karachi]

hang him. he can barks whatever he wants, he is living in the past. I believe most afghans now have realized that they were being used as proxys

[Al-Afghani]

Afghanistan won't allow proxy India-Pakistan war: Karzai

http://tribune.com.pk/story/793834/afghanistan-wont-allow-proxy-india-pakistan-war-karzai/

But Karzai, who has long accused Islamabad of trying to destabilise the Kabul government, said any suggestion that Pashtuns would do Pakistan’s bidding was “hurtful” and an insult to Afghanistan’s largest ethnic group.
“That was a very unfortunate remark,” said Karzai, who is himself a Pashtun.
“Afghanistan has a history of 5,000 years. Saying that Pashtuns will be used as a tool is insulting to Pashtuns, insulting to the people of Afghanistan.”

[jankhan]

**** this army commando. this is typical pakistani army mentality for Pashtuns, they dont respect pashtuns but use them. but army worshipers dont admit it in front of pashtuns.

[ghumbasa]

Musharraf should be hanged.He is still under support of pakistani army and zionists.

[tripledouble]

**** this army commando. this is typical pakistani army mentality for Pashtuns, they dont respect pashtuns but use them. but army worshipers dont admit it in front of pashtuns.

You don't understand, Pakistan propped up Pashtuns in Afghanistan and Iran propped up TajiksUzbeks and Hazaras and now India is supporting TajiksUzbeksHazaras, the proxy war in Afghanistan involves more than one country, if Pakistan is meddling then so is Iran and India, this is the problem with liberals in Pakistan as well as Pashtun nationalists, they never try to understand the complexes off the geopolitical situation.

If Pakistan stops supporting Pashtun groups in Afghanistan then it would be an easy victory for TajiksUzbeksHazaras in Afghanistan and Pashtun nationalists can't not co exist along side these ethnicities as has been proven by Afghanistan long bloody history even before Pakistan was created.

[Al-Afghani]

You don't understand, Pakistan propped up Pashtuns in Afghanistan and Iran propped up TajiksUzbeks and Hazaras and now India is supporting TajiksUzbeksHazaras, the proxy war in Afghanistan involves more than one country, if Pakistan is meddling then so is Iran and India, this is the problem with liberals in Pakistan as well as Pashtun nationalists, they never try to understand the complexes off the geopolitical situation.

If Pakistan stops supporting Pashtun groups in Afghanistan then it would be an easy victory for TajiksUzbeksHazaras in Afghanistan and Pashtun nationalists can't not co exist along side these ethnicities as has been proven by Afghanistan long bloody history even before Pakistan was created.

Iranian and Indian sponsorship for ethnic militias was true in the past, but not today. It's only Pakistan who has a dual policy towards Afghanistan in 2014, with their support for non state actors like the Taliban, Hezbi Islami, Haqqani Network. Sadly, there is no end in sight, the suffering for Afghan people will only continue.

[tripledouble]

Iranian and Indian sponsorship for ethnic militias was true in the past, but not today. It's only Pakistan who has a dual policy towards Afghanistan in 2014, with their support for non state actors like the Taliban, Hezbi Islami, Haqqani Network. Sadly, there is no end in sight, the suffering for Afghan people will only continue.

Iran still is looking out for their assets ie Tajik and Hazaras and PanTuckicists are looking out for Uzbeks and Turkmens.

You can't be oblivious of indian intereference, India has a large presence in afghanistan with consulates all over and chuck hagel revealed indian sponsorship of terror in pakistan through camps in Afghanistan, India has been supporting baloch rebels all kinds of 'non-state' actors, the media doesn't talk about it as much and this will continue in the future just like in the past when India and Afghanistan were allied with the communists.

If read what Mush said, he said "if india uses ethnic elements in a proxy war against Pakistan in Afghanistan, then Pakistan will use it's assets to counter them ie Pashtuns/Haqqani network" that's it, I'm paraphrasing but that's what he said.

[Al-Afghani]

Iran still is looking out for their assets ie Tajik and Hazaras and PanTuckicists are looking out for Uzbeks and Turkmens.

You can't be oblivious of indian intereference, India has a large presence in afghanistan with consulates all over and chuck hagel revealed indian sponsorship of terror in pakistan through camps in Afghanistan, India has been supporting baloch rebels all kinds of 'non-state' actors, the media doesn't talk about it as much and this will continue in the future just like in the past when India and Afghanistan were allied with the communists.

If read what Mush said, he said "if india uses ethnic elements in a proxy war against Pakistan in Afghanistan, then Pakistan will use it's assets to counter them ie Pashtuns/Haqqani network" that's it, I'm paraphrasing but that's what he said.

Foreign countries who use Afghan people as assets should be condemned. Of course its not just Pakistan who interferes in our internal affairs, but to be fair they are the only country with ties to designated terrorist groups.

India has one embassy and four consulates, same as Pakistan.

[tripledouble]

Foreign countries who use Afghan people as assets should be condemned. Of course its not just Pakistan who interferes in our internal affairs, but to be fair they are the only country with ties to designated terrorist groups.

India has one embassy and four consulates, same as Pakistan.

Every country interferes in other countries, atleast in this part of the world, it will continue until time immemorial.

[jankhan]

Every country interferes in other countries, atleast in this part of the world, it will continue until time immemorial.

this is pure munafiqat.

[Karachi]

tripledouble has a typicaly paki mentality, if someone else is doing bad/evil, why not me? Basically this is pakistani mentality and pakistani official policy

Also Afghan and Indians are friends in general, this the difference tripledouble does not understand. Nobody in the region likes Pakistan, because of obvious terror exporting factories that it produces

[jankhan]

tripledouble has a typicaly paki mentality, if someone else is doing bad/evil, why not me? Basically this pakistani mentality and pakistani official policy

Also Afghan and Indians are friends in general, this the difference tripledouble does not understand. Nobody in the region likes Pakistan, because of obvious terror exporting factories that it produces

brother, there is extreme level of munafiqat in pakistani authorities. they say one thing they do other thing. they look good but they are worst. but still they are so ddhheeett means stubborn.

[tripledouble]

tripledouble has a typicaly paki mentality, if someone else is doing bad/evil, why not me? Basically this is pakistani mentality and pakistani official policy

Also Afghan and Indians are friends in general, this the difference tripledouble does not understand. Nobody in the region likes Pakistan, because of obvious terror exporting factories that it produces

This is your sick bias mentality, when India Iran and america can interfere in afghanistan, in Pakistan, in other parts of the world, then why single out Pakistan? In a proxy war there are more than one party and they all lookout for their own interests, this is your issue, its not that I'm not saying that if the whole world does evil why shouldn't we, its that what intelligence agencies and armies do is a dirty job, so singling out one country isn't fair or rational by any means, all countries are hypocritical when it comes to protecting their interests and assets, you have issues with rationalizing what countries do, Pakistan is not an angel, no country is, so stop singling us out and making us measure to your selective standards of 'ethics', this bias is ingrained in Pakistani haters such as a cowbelt bhaiya like urself and the left wing media.

Don't go emotional on me or act like an altaf bhai minion, you pashtun-killing muhajir.

[tripledouble]

brother, there is extreme level of munafiqat in pakistani authorities. they say one thing they do other thing. they look good but they are worst. but still they are so ddhheeett means stubborn.

Welcome to the reality of the world, u must have been born yesterday