Dr. Najibullah --- Great Afghan leader and visionary

[Toramana]

Alas treated badly by the barbarian apes at the behest of their masters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Najibullah

[BarakzaiAbdali]

I personally thought this picture captures that sob's better side:

[BarakzaiAbdali]

^ Looks like karma was a bit-ch based on:

"Najibullah sometimes executed prisoners himself. His preferred method, according to survivors of his prisons, was to beat his victims to the ground, and then kick them to death."

page 409

Source:
The World was Going our Way: The KGB and the Battle for the Third World

Authors:
Christopher M Andrews (Cambridge University/Professor of Modern and Contemporary History)

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From The Encyclopedia of Middle East Wars... by Spencer Tucker
page 874

Najibullah proved to be utterly ruthless while running the secret police, reportedly ordering the arrest, torture, and execution of tens of thousands of Afghan citizens.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Here is his close up smile for the camera

[Toramana]

Barakzai, your responses at most can be called sadistic. I mean what is the point in posting the pictures of a dead person killed by some barbarians without the involvement of any judicial process.

What if I post the pictures of the dead bodies of your spiritual leaders Osama Bin Laden and Abdullah Aazam?

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Barakzai, your responses at most can be called sadistic. I mean what is the point in posting the pictures of a dead person killed by some barbarians without the involvement of any judicial process.

What if I post the pictures of the dead bodies of your spiritual leaders Osama Bin Laden and Abdullah Aazam?

Your instigation of posting this Hiter-esque leader's picture in adoring fashion is considered equally if not more sadistic. Imagine how a Jew would feel if someone posts Hitler's shining smile and starts praising such a mass murderer?

I refer you to this IT/Entrepreneuer's page describing the suffering this Hitler inflicted on one such family:

http://www.sherzad.com/category/afghanistan/

He gives his first hand account of the Dutch government aiding his family in obtaining the information of his Najib era disappeared and tortured relatives.

I would think he might view my response as sweet electronic vengeance toward your provocation

Those are hardly my heroes you mention.. irrespective of that, there are folks petitioning for the release of such photos:

http://www.change.org/petitions/release-the-death-picture-of-osama-bin-laden

Perhaps it will be a catharsis of sorts for Elizabeth Roberts, the petitioner, when they are released.

Nice try.... checkmate! Provoked by your own provocation.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

I think there are you being deceptive. You yourself here on this forum called Abdullah Azam your spiritual leader

Bullsh-it LOL. Show us my quote? By showing interest in understanding why he preferred Ahmad Shah Mossoud?

and showed the same degree of reverence to Osama Bin Laden albeit discretely. You should be at least honest and have some moral integrity to stand for what you believe in or moderate your views.

Fool, referencing the works of his chief adversary, Michael Scheuer, in detailing why your idiotic narrative of the bases for the actions of these insurgents makes no sense, does not translate into ipso facto "reverence" its just honesty and integrity and writing about the true motivations and blowback (as defined by the CIA itself).

On the one hand you are an Al-Qaueda ideologue and trying to do its propaganda although as deviously as you possibly can on the other hand you pretend to be something else.

Hardly, but based on your militant secularism and your endorsement of Badlun's series of insults toward the personage of the Holy Prophet, we all know what you are pretending to be... but as hard as you pretend we still know that Emperor Toramana has no clothes on!

Who can you cheat by the way? Even a kid can understand your tactics. I mean come on be honest and noble.

Sure, I'll be honest about the fact that I am straightforward and unable to cheat people the way you and your ilk can with the following sorts of approaches:

Truncating one's married name in the Central Asian and South Asian press: e.g. Farhat Taj Andersen becomes Farhat Taj... Presto!

Or generating unscrupulous data so as to make the data fit a nonsensical hypothesis that leads to death, destruction, and murder of civilians as in the following?

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opi...931606455.html

As a matter of fact, the only known survey "on the ground in FATA" at the time was carried out by a "letterhead organisation" named the Aryana Institute for Regional Research and Advocacy whose conclusions can fairly be described as deeply unreliable and dubious. It claimed that 55 per cent of respondents in a survey it carried out in "parts of FATA that are often hit by American drones" (among which it curiously included Parachinar, which has never been hit and whose overwhelmingly Shia population is deeply hostile to the virulently anti-Shia Taliban) did not think that the attacks caused "fear and terror in the common people"; 52 per cent found them "accurate in their strikes"; and 58 per cent did not think they increased anti-Americanism.

Yep, I certainly cannot sink to your levels of dishonesty and ignobility

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[Al-Afghani]

Afghanistan, and most other Muslim countries, always had bloodthirsty leaders because that's the only way to survive for them. This also makes it very easy for outsiders to invade. All they have to do is replace the madman in chief with their own guy.

[Loy Afghanistan]

I didn't know "Pashtuns" like Barakzaiabdali was favour of arabs terrorist so much!! Must be kind of brainwashed in some Mosque by some dirty mullah, lives in Dubai or other arab state, or just got some arab genes in himself.

No true Pashtun can side with arabs, who has destroyed so much and licking the US boots 24/7.

[Toramana]

Can you tell us do you consider Osama a terrorist or a holy warrior and martyred or killed? I can tell you in advance that any ambiguous reply would indicate your effort to disguise your true feelings for him.

The same question from you is about Abdullah Azzam and Al-Zawahiri.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

I didn't know "Pashtuns" like Barakzaiabdali was favour of arabs terrorist so much!! Must be kind of brainwashed in some Mosque by some dirty mullah, lives in Dubai or other arab state, or just got some arab genes in himself.

No true Pashtun can side with arabs, who has destroyed so much and licking the US boots 24/7.

I didnt know that "Pashtuns" like Loya Afghanistan were in favor of secular militant terrorists so much!! Must be kind of brainwashed in some recruitment center by a dirty secular nationalist and thinks that "Arab genes" is a way to deflect the mass murder and crimes done by that piece of feces Najibu-Shaytaan.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Infinite dishonesty that now you are denying that you didn't shower reverence at Abdullah Aazam and other extremist leaders although you know it well in your heart that you are lying.

Ah here we go again, that famous Toramana inquisition post intellectual defeat. Is this the best you can do without supporting evidence?

Rest as for the drone killings, who can believe the surveys concocted either by Pakistan Army or global Al-Qaueda sympathizers and ideologues/activists like yourself to pressure US into abandoning the use of drones so your heroes get free hand to do what they want to do, i.e., to implement khalafath Uptopia and then take on the rest of the infidel world.

The survey by Aryana was extremely credible conducted on the ground and taken from the interviews with those that are and were the victims of terrorism.

Lets allow discerning minds decide:

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opi...931606455.html

As a matter of fact, the only known survey "on the ground in FATA" at the time was carried out by a "letterhead organisation" named the Aryana Institute for Regional Research and Advocacy whose conclusions can fairly be described as deeply unreliable and dubious. It claimed that 55 per cent of respondents in a survey it carried out in "parts of FATA that are often hit by American drones" (among which it curiously included Parachinar, which has never been hit and whose overwhelmingly Shia population is deeply hostile to the virulently anti-Shia Taliban) did not think that the attacks caused "fear and terror in the common people"; 52 per cent found them "accurate in their strikes"; and 58 per cent did not think they increased anti-Americanism.

I guess that the mainstream is catching on is setting that evil brain of yours on fire


And is the hue and cry really for the civilians killed in the drone attacks or is it due to the pain and rage that the guys you are considering the saviors of your brand of Islam are being eliminated?

Lol. How foolish, you have an intellectual Catch-22, if I were what you said (which I am not) then elimination would be a celebration, not a rage and pain event like the ones you have when Taj Andersen is outted.

If it is out of sympathy for civilian killing, then there have been more slaughtered by your beloved warriors in suicide bombing and throat-slitting.

Nice try to deflect the blame for your failed policies and insidious approaches. You recruited proxy empires across the ages to sustain their presence and unleash forces across the world that resulted in the very things you noted. As Scheuer notes, you are their local stooge and as a result you are the greatest beneficiary of these sustained violence producing policies.

The fact is, you may try hard to disguise where your true sympathies are but the readers are not stupid to not being able to see through your charade.

If by readers, you mean Badlun (an Osho-phile) You (an associate of proven liars and malingerers-Taj Andersen) and some other militant secularists then you dont just see charades, you are the charade

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[BarakzaiAbdali]

Can you tell us do you consider Osama a terrorist or a holy warrior and martyred or killed? I can tell you in advance that any ambiguous reply would indicate your effort to disguise your true feelings for him.

The same question from you is about Abdullah Azzam and Al-Zawahiri.

The only ambiguous operator here is yourself with your closet atheism. I only view him academically as a less successful variant of Simon Bar Kochba. I feel a strong antipathy with his non consensual utilization of Afghan Land for his insurgency. I think however, that Michael Scheuer defines correctly how and why the man landed in Afghanistan in the first place and that his actions, which were morally reprehensible, were predictable based on the data and evidences Dr. Scheuer provides in Imperial Hubris regarding Western Policy in the Middle East, Persia, and Central Asia (and perhaps Africa).

I however think that there is symptom (UBL) and disease (Foreign Policy) and that you are a pathogen agent essential to insuring disease propagation in the Muslim world with your nearly insane messianic attempt to impose a series of foreign concepts by force and fiat on predominantly Muslim nations. Therefore, I think of UBL like the Hitman who is responsible for murder in his own way, but you and your ilk and Lindsay Graham and what not as the brains behind his operations.

Abdul Azzam I know next to nothing about and hence why Admin referred me to the book about Massoud indicating he was Azam's choice to lead Afghanistan. I have purchased it but not yet read it.

Zawahiri once again is the product and love child of your type of people and Gamal De Nasir. I read a book written by Jean Sasson and found Zawahiri's murder without trial of a suspected homosexual in Afghanistan repugnant

So in summary, I view you and UBL as two peas on a pod with you being the causal agent and him being the expression of your psychopathologic wet dreams

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

I didnt know that "Pashtuns" like Loya Afghanistan were in favor of secular militant terrorists so much!! Must be kind of brainwashed in some recruitment center by a dirty secular nationalist and thinks that "Arab genes" is a way to deflect the mass murder and crimes done by that piece of feces Najibu-Shaytaan.

Perhaps he has based off his hates for Arabs around Shia-Sunni rivalry.

I have never considered him worth replying as he's perhaps the most dirty poster of this forum.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Perhaps he has based off his hates for Arabs around Shia-Sunni rivalry.

I have never considered him worth replying as he's perhaps the most dirty poster of this forum.

These guys are insane. A very very small minority has any appreciation for Najibullah and they invent so many stupid conspiracy theories about that murderer that you would think he is a modern day religious figure for them,