Miranshah reduced to rubbles

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

You came here, after I criticized your nationalist ilk but not your people, and insinuated about non-Pashtuns, the typical Pashtun ethno-fascist canard that the natives of Northern "Afghanistan" are but immigrants hosting a colonial legacy who supposedly are the real inhabitants of that land, and when I simply give you a taste of your own medicine, I am the racist? As for my loving parents, unlike yours they taught me never to bring other peoples family into a conflict, and oh no, they did not teach me this, they in fact subscribe to the creed of that naive idiot Bashardost and despise all the walords, from Abdullah to Mullah Omar. My political views are my own, sculpted by my readings of the scientific literature on the phenomena of ethnic conflict, and chiselled by the observation of the political state of affairs of Afghanistan as well as you Pashtuns in this forum.

And you misunderstood me on Abdullah my dear self-deceptive friend, the point I was trying to make is that the Tajik and Hazara populations are not like my parents: you see they prefer that murderous warlord Abdullah to a Pashtun ipso facto (and I don't think you Pashtuns are any different), that simply reflects the extent to which this miserable state "Afghanistan" has failed. I have said it before and I will say it again, I do not hold you Pashtuns as a people responsible for this wretched mess that is "Afghanistan"; the problem to put it in a sentence, is that we have different peoples competing over the same economic resource pool who have little in common other than religion. There is only one solution to that problem and it is the solution that the entire world has increasingly adopted over the past 2 centuries: the formation of ethnic states.

Everyone believe themselves to be just and impartial my friend but as the science of evolutionary biology has made clear, the human mind has not evolved to seek truth. I have devised a very simple but impartial test for determining an individual's tendency toward fascism: an individual is an ethnic fascist insofar as they are unwilling to acknowledge that other groups have their own interests. You abassinafghan are an ethnic fascist because you are not willing to acknowledge that the non-Pashtuns have their own interests, for example that they will NEVER EVER accept Loy Afghanistan. I, on the other hand, do acknowledge that you Pashtuns have your own interests and I support every one of them except ones that are incompatible with the interests of my people in the long run and your Loy Afghanistan is foremost on that list. I personally do not subscribe to the philosophy of ends justifying the means but the more I interact with Pashtuns like you, the more I am starting to make an exception for one thing: the partition of Afghanistan by any means. Even if that means supporting and even being ruled by warlords for a time, I think the long term benefits of the people of Afghanistan finally being emancipated from this curse that is "Afghanistan" far exceeds the inevitable costs.

Well sir,explaining something to the likes of Kushan prince who consider talibs as savior of afghanistan despite the fact that talibs by no standard can be regarded as civilized form of modern humans.

Further more i don't agree with you regarding the partition of Afghanistan as there are still far better alternative to deal with the present situation

[Herat]

Well sir,explaining something to the likes of Kushan prince who consider talibs as savior of afghanistan despite the fact that talibs by no standard can be regarded as civilized form of modern humans.

Further more i don't agree with you regarding the partition of Afghanistan as there are still far better alternative to deal with the present situation

Da Bannu Mazdigar my good friend, I avoid commenting on issues which I know little about such as the Pashtun-Pakistan affair but what I am seeing is basically your country treating your tribal folk the way Israel treats the Palestinians. Afghanistan is a little different but the way I see is that basically there are different groups, one of these groups are the tribal Pashtuns of Afghanistan whom form the bulk of the ethnic group in that country, and their interests seem to largely coincide with that of the Taliban -and I essentially have no problem with this or the group insofar as the interests of the other groups are respected. Note that my worldview is the polar opposite of the Taliban but nevertheless I cannot be delusional and ignore the evidence that they do represent the tribal Pashtun folk of my country. And as a fellow would be Physician, you should know that we should not prescribe palliatives if there are cures; the mass of the scientific evidence suggests to me that only partition can be the cure to the problems of our region which is ultimately rooted in human nature and not any specific social, economic or political arrangement. In the long run, a union or a super-state would serve the interests of everyone best but I do not see a feasible way to achieve that without balkanization first: indeed the most significant political pattern of the modern world has been the formation of ethnic states followed by increasing economic integration between the states thereof. Kushan Prince tends to brain fart a lot, I wouldn't take him seriously.

[Pakwatan]

You have an abhorrence for Afghans because you suffer from an inferiority complex and you think they are above you. That has always been the attitude mind set of south asians which is why you are seen as a beggar race around the world. You even glorified Ahmad Shah Durrani in one thread an Afghan leader who saw punjabis as lower than him. Paki Pashtuns fight for Pakistan because they are following a brainwashed cult they themselves have been tangled in (unfortunately) thanks to the Islamabad think tank which that Banu Mazdigar user is a great example of. You've also exposed your hypocrisy for voicing your support for the pak army who have killed and displaced tons of Pashtuns in Waziristan yet you just brush it off like that khar Banu Mazdigar like it is nothing. You claim you support Pashtun people but your "own" people are dying by the hands of your own country.

Honestly Pakwatan, just F off. If you hate Afghan Pashtuns then why are you here? This is a forum for Afghans and Pashtuns are Afghan. It does not matter if brainwashed Pashtuns from Khyber do not see themselves as such because their forefathers before them did, and no caste practising punjabi can deny that.

Pakistan is a disease and like every disease, there is a cure for it.

I think you're getting emotional. I don't hate Afghans at all.

[Admin Khan]

It doesn't matter if the land of Pashtuns is overtaken by Uzbek Islamists. As long as Tajiks and Turkmens flourish. If Kunar and Khost is decimated by ANA, then it is a service contributed by the ANA

The difference between me and you, is that I condemn both the ANA and Punjabi Army, I don't discriminate both, or support one blindly. Both have the blood of Pashtuns, and are responsible behind the deaths of thousands of innocent Pashtuns.

. Grow up.

Don't get disrespectful. If this was a Punjabi/Pakistan forum, you would've been banned by now.

The land of Pashtuns is Pakistan. That is why Pashtuns in Pakistan fight for it. That is why Afghans come to Pakistan. We Pakistanis will always support Pashtun people, but we will not support Pashtun revisionist traitors. Peshawar will always be the city for Pashtuns, but we will not allow nationalist dogs.

Pashtuns in Pakistan are dying to survive, and most don't give a rats rear about Pakistan or Afghanistan. They are just trying to survive the attacks of the Pakistani army for now in Waziristan.

You can say I am Punjabi and have hate towards Afghans

Never said that, don't create lies. I have many great Punjabi friends, in fact, some of my dearest friends are Punjabis; my problem is with corrupt fat-bellied generals who are murking my ethnic group in Pindi and Kabul.

but today, my friends that are Pashtuns hate Afghans more than anyone else.

Don't get emotional, and try to come up false stories to justify it. I don't care what your friends think about Pashtuns(Afghans), and it's irrelevant. Your imaginary, or real, friends can think whatever they want about "Pashtuns".

[gadoonwal]

A local of north waziristan was trying to speak to media but the army warn the media not approcah him.
He later talked to people that the napak army transported the terrorists on pak army horses just before the operation.
The army and agencies warn the locals that they will be slaughtered if expose any news to outside world.
The napaki media allowed ,,isi,,owned agents to speak to napaki media to make fool of the world.
The army transported thousands of trained isi terrorists to northren areas of pakistan.Many were taken in napak army Helicopters.
They are killing people and demolishing the houses .

[Pakwatan]

The difference between me and you, is that I condemn both the ANA and Punjabi Army, I don't discriminate both, or support one blindly. Both have the blood of Pashtuns, and are responsible behind the deaths of thousands of innocent Pashtuns.

Don't get disrespectful. If this was a Punjabi/Pakistan forum, you would've been banned by now.

Pashtuns in Pakistan are dying to survive, and most don't give a rats rear about Pakistan or Afghanistan. They are just trying to survive the attacks of the Pakistani army for now in Waziristan.

Never said that, don't create lies. I have many great Punjabi friends, in fact, some of my dearest friends are Punjabis; my problem is with corrupt fat-bellied generals who are murking my ethnic group in Pindi and Kabul.

Don't get emotional, and try to come up false stories to justify it. I don't care what your friends think about Pashtuns(Afghans), and it's irrelevant. Your imaginary, or real, friends can think whatever they want about "Pashtuns".

[MENTION=2]Admin Khan[/MENTION], I have great respect for you. What I wrote in my last post was out of frustration and anger. I apologize for being rude to you. You are a very fair person and someone I admire, even If we disagree about certain issues. Sorry for being out of line bro. I sincerely apologize, wror.

[Kushan Prince]

[MENTION=13640]Pakwatan[/MENTION]

You say i am emotional yet you were the one that went on an emotional rant to Admin Khan, and then you even apologize to him because you were frustrated lol. You have to learn how to keep your emotions in check my friend.

[Admin Khan]

@Admin Khan, I have great respect for you. What I wrote in my last post was out of frustration and anger. I apologize for being rude to you. You are a very fair person and someone I admire, even If we disagree about certain issues. Sorry for being out of line bro. I sincerely apologize, wror.

No problem brother -- No love lost, and the feelings are mutual. You should know that at the end of the day, there are more similarities between the two nations then differences, and corrupt officials, death of civilians, should be condemned unequivocally of all races, whether it's Punjabis dying in Lahore, or Pashtuns in Karachi.

Best,

[Pakwatan]

[MENTION=13640]Pakwatan[/MENTION]

You say i am emotional yet you were the one that went on an emotional rant to Admin Khan, and then you even apologize to him because you were frustrated lol. You have to learn how to keep your emotions in check my friend.

Thing is that I match bs with bs. But Admin Khan is certainly objective on some things. You on the other hand..

I'm not sure If you are always trolling or just live in another galaxy.

[Kushan Prince]

Thing is that I match bs with bs. But Admin Khan is certainly objective on some things. You on the other hand..

I'm not sure If you are always trolling or just live in another galaxy.

Well think of me as whatever you want but that doesn't allude from the fact that you always go on a emotional outburst and then apologize and suck up to mods whether it is Admin Khan or randolph right on the spot. I guess that proves my point in my last long post that pakistanis are really nothing more then a beggar race.

Not that i got anything against you or the average Pakistani, but you really need to get your emotions in check.

[Kushan Prince]

Well sir,explaining something to the likes of Kushan prince who consider talibs as savior of afghanistan despite the fact that talibs by no standard can be regarded as civilized form of modern humans.

Further more i don't agree with you regarding the partition of Afghanistan as there are still far better alternative to deal with the present situation

I've never once considered talibs as the "saviour" of Afghanistan. I believe they are the only group in the country fighting against foreign occupation unlike the ANA and NA who are too busy smoking of out their chilam, harassing Pashtuns in the north, or busy making pact deals with Americans. It is people like you who can't differentiate between a good and bad talib just like there is a good and bad human being.

However, folks like you and Pakwatan support the satanic cult called the "Pak army" who have killed and displaced tons of Pashtuns in north waziristan and you can't speak against it because it gets in the way of your false paki pride.

[Pakwatan]

Well think of me as whatever you want but that doesn't allude from the fact that you always go on a emotional outburst and then apologize and suck up to mods whether it is Admin Khan or randolph right on the spot. I guess that proves my point in my last long post that pakistanis are really nothing more then a beggar race.

Not that i got anything against you or the average Pakistani, but you really need to get your emotions in check.

See the difference between us, is that with age comes wisdom. I am a guest here, so being disrespectful to your host is called beghairati. And being humble is virtue of strength. I have not sucked up to anyone here, I genuinely like the guys you've mentioned, because they are not racist trolls like you. Look at the filth you're spreading during Ramzan.

You wear Islam like a girl wears makeup.

I don't come here to spread propaganda, but to defend the position of my country.

I don't come here and spread fascism on the basis of nationhood or ethnicity. In fact, I always wish well for Afghans.

I don't reply to insults of Punjabis with stereotypes of Pashtuns being bachaybaaz /drug addict/wife beaters. Why? I'm not an ethno-fascist.

I'm all for peace, respect and unity. However, there are insecure members here being obnoxious for sake of their deflated egos.

I mean look nigga, your cousins are all doctors and you're probably in community college majoring in nursing field, but don't take it out on Pakistanis or Punjabis.

And what I wrote above is just an example, so don't take it personally. It was not in direct reference to you, but to the frustrated trolls on this site.

Anyways, peace.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

See the difference between us, is that with age comes wisdom. I am a guest here, so being disrespectful to your host is called beghairati. And being humble is virtue of strength. I have not sucked up to anyone here, I genuinely like the guys you've mentioned, because they are not racist trolls like you. Look at the filth you're spreading during Ramzan.

You wear Islam like a girl wears makeup.

I don't come here to spread propaganda, but to defend the position of my country.

I don't come here and spread fascism on the basis of nationhood or ethnicity. In fact, I always wish well for Afghans.

I don't reply to insults of Punjabis with stereotypes of Pashtuns being bachaybaaz /drug addict/wife beaters. Why? I'm not an ethno-fascist.

I'm all for peace, respect and unity. However, there are insecure members here being obnoxious for sake of their deflated egos.

I mean look nigga, your cousins are all doctors and you're probably in community college majoring in nursing field, but don't take it out on Pakistanis or Punjabis.

And what I wrote above is just an example, so don't take it personally. It was not in direct reference to you, but to the frustrated trolls on this site.

Anyways, peace.

Lala,bachay ki jaan logay kia

[Pakwatan]

Lala,bachay ki jaan logay kia

Bus yaar. Haad hoti hain. Hum Pakistani yahan muft ki gaalian ka re hain.

Chalo apne bola, to bacha maaf kar te hain.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Bus yaar. Haad hoti hain. Hum Pakistani yahan muft ki gaalian ka re hain.

Chalo apne bola, to bacha maaf kar te hain.

pashto main kehte hay

"De levani na lya larray ao lya ghalay"

Translation

"Pagalo se ya door aur ya chup "

:D