Miranshah reduced to rubbles

[dehqaanherawi]

Afghanistan is also landlocked. Does Afghanistan have any resources to insure it's existence?

No.

We have natural resources but we are sandwiched between Iran and Pakistan just like Pakistan is sandwiched between India and Afghanistan. You want to reach Central Asia through Afghanistan just like we want to reach warm waters through Pakistan. We should cooperate instead fighting each other.

[Herat]

there is one major difference , in afghanistan pashtuns live since centuries , and people like you and the rest came mostly as immigrants , and even you herati are sunnis and welcomed sunni pashtuns against your shia iranian friends !

in opposite in pakistan the land was given to them by the british , artificially , they didnt colonized it ,they didnt caputerd it , they did nothing for it .

Looool who are you calling an immigrant, oh you savage tribal man of the mountains? On the contrary, you immigrant Pashtuns have no real history in Northern "Afghanistan" except as colonizers, a legacy of that piece of mule dung, Abdul Rahman Khan. Yet my friend, we have so, so much more in common with those Iranian Shiites than we do with you Pashtuns, so why should we live with you? And you will see, you will see how truly meaningless all of that is when all hell lets loose once more because this time, they (the non-Pashtuns of Northern "Afghanistan") know who the real enemy is, this time it won't be like the last civil war. Abdullah and the other war lords are all pushing for federalism for a reason you know, their end game is partition this time and you know it. But don't worry, you Pashtun immigrants are free to live with us in those colonized lands once Awghanistan (Aoghanistan, may its name be obliterated) is dealt with but if do not wish so, youre always free to move back to your own home land.

[abassinafghan]

Looool who are you calling an immigrant, oh you savage tribal man of the mountains? On the contrary, you immigrant Pashtuns have no real history in Northern "Afghanistan" except as colonizers, a legacy of that piece of mule dung, Abdul Rahman Khan. Yet my friend, we have so, so much more in common with those Iranian Shiites than we do with you Pashtuns, so why should we live with you? And you will see, you will see how truly meaningless all of that is when all hell lets loose once more because this time, they (the non-Pashtuns of Northern "Afghanistan") know who the real enemy is, this time it won't be like the last civil war. Abdullah and the other war lords are all pushing for federalism for a reason you know, their end game is partition this time and you know it. But don't worry, you Pashtun immigrants are free to live with us in those colonized lands once Awghanistan (Aoghanistan, may its name be obliterated) is dealt with but if do not wish so, youre always free to move back to your own home land.

kandolake parsisaban ,did i pushed some buttons , first of all show me you certificate of birth that proofs you are afghan subject and citizen !!! i think you are born some where in europe or the us .

but anyways look how YOUR PERSIAN brothers treat you in IRAN , ask your friends over there how the iranians treat you .

so the only immigrant are you , an immigrant in the west , an immigrant in afghanistan .

go back to tajikistan or uzbekistan or turkemnistan , you have no right what so ever and no american ,european or somebody else will help you .

[Herat]

kandolake parsisaban ,did i pushed some buttons , first of all show me you certificate of birth that proofs you are afghan subject and citizen !!! i think you are born some where in europe or the us .

but anyways look how YOUR PERSIAN brothers treat you in IRAN , ask your friends over there how the iranians treat you .

so the only immigrant are you , an immigrant in the west , an immigrant in afghanistan .

go back to tajikistan or uzbekistan or turkemnistan , you have no right what so ever and no american ,european or somebody else will help you .

Awghan, you are right, I am not an "Awghan" and not only does no one where I am from use that disgusting appellation but I never use it here in the west when asked of my origin either, I proudly declare myself a Tajik but never an "Awghan". Yes I know how we are treated in Iran and yet, we still have more in common with them than we do with you Pashtuns. Like I said before, just wait and watch, you self-deceptive fools think Abdullah is some insignificant warlord? My friend, that warlord won the majority of the Tajik and Hazara vote over your Ghani for a reason. Thats how the Tajik and the Hazara feel, we do not want you, whether it be your nationalist (Ghani) or your tribal folk (Taliban), and do not be surprised at the speed with which the Uzbeks turn their back on you once the later comes into the game again. You can call me an immigrant all you want but you will see who will be vindicated in the end: let us watch this wretched curse known as "Awghanistan" breath its last for very soon, you will be mourning its death. The Americans are about to leave and Iraq is about to come to Central Asia and believe me my Awghan friend, it will be much worse because it is blood and not sect that separates us and that age old aphorism "blood is thicker than water" is about to confirmed by another tragic experiment in living.

[Khostai]

Awghan, you are right, I am not an "Awghan" and not only does no one where I am from use that disgusting appellation but I never use it here in the west when asked of my origin either, I proudly declare myself a Tajik but never an "Awghan". Yes I know how we are treated in Iran and yet, we still have more in common with them than we do with you Pashtuns. Like I said before, just wait and watch, you self-deceptive fools think Abdullah is some insignificant warlord? My friend, that warlord won the majority of the Tajik and Hazara vote over your Ghani for a reason. Thats how the Tajik and the Hazara feel, we do not want you, whether it be your nationalist (Ghani) or your tribal folk (Taliban), and do not be surprised at the speed with which the Uzbeks turn their back on you once the later comes into the game again. You can call me an immigrant all you want but you will see who will be vindicated in the end: let us watch this wretched curse known as "Awghanistan" breath its last for very soon, you will be mourning its death. The Americans are about to leave and Iraq is about to come to Central Asia and believe me my Awghan friend, it will be much worse because it is blood and not sect that separates us and that age old aphorism "blood is thicker than water" is about to confirmed by another tragic experiment in living.

At the end of the day you are still an immigrant.

[abassinafghan]

Awghan, you are right, I am not an "Awghan" and not only does no one where I am from use that disgusting appellation but I never use it here in the west when asked of my origin either, I proudly declare myself a Tajik but never an "Awghan". Yes I know how we are treated in Iran and yet, we still have more in common with them than we do with you Pashtuns. Like I said before, just wait and watch, you self-deceptive fools think Abdullah is some insignificant warlord? My friend, that warlord won the majority of the Tajik and Hazara vote over your Ghani for a reason. Thats how the Tajik and the Hazara feel, we do not want you, whether it be your nationalist (Ghani) or your tribal folk (Taliban), and do not be surprised at the speed with which the Uzbeks turn their back on you once the later comes into the game again. You can call me an immigrant all you want but you will see who will be vindicated in the end: let us watch this wretched curse known as "Awghanistan" breath its last for very soon, you will be mourning its death. The Americans are about to leave and Iraq is about to come to Central Asia and believe me my Awghan friend, it will be much worse because it is blood and not sect that separates us and that age old aphorism "blood is thicker than water" is about to confirmed by another tragic experiment in living.

it seems the only thing which you learned is racism , but never mind . keep on running away and blame people for the misery which your good for nothing parents faced .

once an immigrant always an immigrant , the best thing which you come up is frog eye abdullah ?

are you serious ? the very same who was shelling kabul with rockets and pointing with his fingers in which neighbourhood the rockets should kill children , olds ,women ,men ??? this is your hero ?

who bended over for pakis , russians , americans and 42 other nations .

do you know why i can not take people like you serious ? because you dont stand for your own but belive , that you will be anything better by selling yourself as a prostiute .

you dont want be looked as an equal brother with the same rights and duties , but as something better , so you have to tell yourself , you are something better by your racism , and your so called blood .

if it was not for us you would talk now russian , and have a russian cyrillic name . once an immigrant always an immigrant .

but you have no birth right to claim one inch of afghanistan , claim your right from the country you are born in , raised ,and live , the same goes for your good for nothing parents who taught you this bs .

[dehqaanherawi]

Immigrants or not, here we are and we are fighting for our rights. And there is nothing you can do about it. Did not you people see how Abdullah has forced Ghani baba and Dostum baba to step down?

60th´s are gone. Welcome to the new century.

BTW I am a khwaja and my family traces their roots back to our great ancestor, Khwaja Abdullah Ansari. So, my ancestors were here one thousand years ago.. where were yours? Be ko-e sulaiman, feker konom LOL

[dehqaanherawi]

Awghan, you are right, I am not an "Awghan" and not only does no one where I am from use that disgusting appellation but I never use it here in the west when asked of my origin either, I proudly declare myself a Tajik but never an "Awghan". Yes I know how we are treated in Iran and yet, we still have more in common with them than we do with you Pashtuns. Like I said before, just wait and watch, you self-deceptive fools think Abdullah is some insignificant warlord? My friend, that warlord won the majority of the Tajik and Hazara vote over your Ghani for a reason. Thats how the Tajik and the Hazara feel, we do not want you, whether it be your nationalist (Ghani) or your tribal folk (Taliban), and do not be surprised at the speed with which the Uzbeks turn their back on you once the later comes into the game again. You can call me an immigrant all you want but you will see who will be vindicated in the end: let us watch this wretched curse known as "Awghanistan" breath its last for very soon, you will be mourning its death. The Americans are about to leave and Iraq is about to come to Central Asia and believe me my Awghan friend, it will be much worse because it is blood and not sect that separates us and that age old aphorism "blood is thicker than water" is about to confirmed by another tragic experiment in living.

Beche khale, don't take them seriously. Let them bark. Thats all what they can do show their frustration in this forum. But at the end of the day we all know that this last week has proved to all of us that pashtuns can not force on us their tribal mentality.

Pashtunism lost again.

[gadoonwal]

My dear brother
Just show me a single protest any where in Pashtunland against this operation? I do not see a single Pashtun amongst the 70 millions Pashtuns in the world except few here on net.

Did the people of Swat protest before or after the operation? Rather they showered flowers on Paksitani army. The same will happen in Waziristan.

yes,brother i fully agree with you.
The case of swat was different.Swatians always took side with none-pashtuns.Their history is written how they co operated with mugals against pashtuns.Their culture and way of life is more like indics .
After the operation i visited swat and got disappointed how these people were worshiping paki army there.Not a single person agreed with my view there.All of them admire paki army and pakistan.
Afzal khan lala himself is loyal pakistani.The people were more proud of pakistan then their pashtun heritage.
AS WE ALL KNOW they are more pakipied then any other area of pakistan.Pakistan day celebration is held there everywhere.
I FEEL SORRY FOR THE SUFFERING OF SWATIAN PEOPLE WITH HANDS OF PUNJABI ARMY.
The only area wich took arms against talibs in swat was ,,kalam,,and the people of kalam speak their own language torwali.They are kohistanuians not pakhtuns.

waziristan is our pride .It is part of pashtun heartland.
Some of them exremly hate pakistan but who is there to support and guide them.They are great pashtuns but our disunity,benangy and lahori islamism destroyed everything.
The paki media do,nt even allow the free media to waziristan.
The ,,isi,,agents in waziristan are allowed to speak to paki media to make fool of the world.
All of the above thousands of arm waziris crossed into afghanistan and they hate pakism more then us.Pakistan will pay back.

pak study
lahori islamism
jinahism
pakism
and mullaism are the desease pashtuns suffering from.

[Admin Khan]

It doesn't matter if the land of Pashtuns is reduced to rubbles, for as long Rawalpindi flourishes, who cares about Waziristan.

[Kushan Prince]

Why hasn't this "Herat" user been banned yet? all he does is bark negativity about Pashtuns and has the nerve to call Pashtuns "immigrants" on our own land. Oh, and to top it all off, he is RTR posing as a tajik from herat! This guy is mentally ill and is known for spreading hate and mis info against Pashtuns when he was here.

I hope the mods take action against him and his multiple accounts.

[Pakwatan]

It doesn't matter if the land of Pashtuns is reduced to rubbles, for as long Rawalpindi flourishes, who cares about Waziristan.

It doesn't matter if the land of Pashtuns is overtaken by Uzbek Islamists. As long as Tajiks and Turkmens flourish. If Kunar and Khost is decimated by ANA, then it is a service contributed by the ANA. Grow up.


The land of Pashtuns is Pakistan. That is why Pashtuns in Pakistan fight for it. That is why Afghans come to Pakistan. We Pakistanis will always support Pashtun people, but we will not support Pashtun revisionist traitors. Peshawar will always be the city for Pashtuns, but we will not allow nationalist dogs. You can say I am Punjabi and have hate towards Afghans, but today, my friends that are Pashtuns hate Afghans more than anyone else.

[Kushan Prince]

Afghanistan is also landlocked. Does Afghanistan have any resources to insure it's existence?

Yes we do. Afghanistan has apparently the worlds "largest mineral reserves" according to the pentagon in an article released in 2010. That could make Afghanistan as rich as KSA if used correctly. I don't think pakistan has any known resources that could help them in the long run as it is basically barren wasteland.

But pakistani workers are always welcome to work second hand jobs for Afghans!

[Kushan Prince]

It doesn't matter if the land of Pashtuns is overtaken by Uzbek Islamists. As long as Tajiks and Turkmens flourish. If Kunar and Khost is decimated by ANA, then it is a service contributed by the ANA. Grow up.


The land of Pashtuns is Pakistan. That is why Pashtuns in Pakistan fight for it. That is why Afghans come to Pakistan. We Pakistanis will always support Pashtun people, but we will not support Pashtun revisionist traitors. Peshawar will always be the city for Pashtuns, but we will not allow nationalist dogs. You can say I am Punjabi and have hate towards Afghans, but today, my friends that are Pashtuns hate Afghans more than anyone else.

You have an abhorrence for Afghans because you suffer from an inferiority complex and you think they are above you. That has always been the attitude mind set of south asians which is why you are seen as a beggar race around the world. You even glorified Ahmad Shah Durrani in one thread an Afghan leader who saw punjabis as lower than him. Paki Pashtuns fight for Pakistan because they are following a brainwashed cult they themselves have been tangled in (unfortunately) thanks to the Islamabad think tank which that Banu Mazdigar user is a great example of. You've also exposed your hypocrisy for voicing your support for the pak army who have killed and displaced tons of Pashtuns in Waziristan yet you just brush it off like that khar Banu Mazdigar like it is nothing. You claim you support Pashtun people but your "own" people are dying by the hands of your own country.

Honestly Pakwatan, just F off. If you hate Afghan Pashtuns then why are you here? This is a forum for Afghans and Pashtuns are Afghan. It does not matter if brainwashed Pashtuns from Khyber do not see themselves as such because their forefathers before them did, and no caste practising punjabi can deny that.

Pakistan is a disease and like every disease, there is a cure for it.

[Herat]

it seems the only thing which you learned is racism , but never mind . keep on running away and blame people for the misery which your good for nothing parents faced .

once an immigrant always an immigrant , the best thing which you come up is frog eye abdullah ?

are you serious ? the very same who was shelling kabul with rockets and pointing with his fingers in which neighbourhood the rockets should kill children , olds ,women ,men ??? this is your hero ?

who bended over for pakis , russians , americans and 42 other nations .

do you know why i can not take people like you serious ? because you dont stand for your own but belive , that you will be anything better by selling yourself as a prostiute .

you dont want be looked as an equal brother with the same rights and duties , but as something better , so you have to tell yourself , you are something better by your racism , and your so called blood .

if it was not for us you would talk now russian , and have a russian cyrillic name . once an immigrant always an immigrant .

but you have no birth right to claim one inch of afghanistan , claim your right from the country you are born in , raised ,and live , the same goes for your good for nothing parents who taught you this bs .

You came here, after I criticized your nationalist ilk but not your people, and insinuated about non-Pashtuns, the typical Pashtun ethno-fascist canard that the natives of Northern "Afghanistan" are but immigrants hosting a colonial legacy who supposedly are the real inhabitants of that land, and when I simply give you a taste of your own medicine, I am the racist? As for my loving parents, unlike yours they taught me never to bring other peoples family into a conflict, and oh no, they did not teach me this, they in fact subscribe to the creed of that naive idiot Bashardost and despise all the walords, from Abdullah to Mullah Omar. My political views are my own, sculpted by my readings of the scientific literature on the phenomena of ethnic conflict, and chiselled by the observation of the political state of affairs of Afghanistan as well as you Pashtuns in this forum.

And you misunderstood me on Abdullah my dear self-deceptive friend, the point I was trying to make is that the Tajik and Hazara populations are not like my parents: you see they prefer that murderous warlord Abdullah to a Pashtun ipso facto (and I don't think you Pashtuns are any different), that simply reflects the extent to which this miserable state "Afghanistan" has failed. I have said it before and I will say it again, I do not hold you Pashtuns as a people responsible for this wretched mess that is "Afghanistan"; the problem to put it in a sentence, is that we have different peoples competing over the same economic resource pool who have little in common other than religion. There is only one solution to that problem and it is the solution that the entire world has increasingly adopted over the past 2 centuries: the formation of ethnic states.

Everyone believe themselves to be just and impartial my friend but as the science of evolutionary biology has made clear, the human mind has not evolved to seek truth. I have devised a very simple but impartial test for determining an individual's tendency toward fascism: an individual is an ethnic fascist insofar as they are unwilling to acknowledge that other groups have their own interests. You abassinafghan are an ethnic fascist because you are not willing to acknowledge that the non-Pashtuns have their own interests, for example that they will NEVER EVER accept Loy Afghanistan. I, on the other hand, do acknowledge that you Pashtuns have your own interests and I support every one of them except ones that are incompatible with the interests of my people in the long run and your Loy Afghanistan is foremost on that list. I personally do not subscribe to the philosophy of ends justifying the means but the more I interact with Pashtuns like you, the more I am starting to make an exception for one thing: the partition of Afghanistan by any means. Even if that means supporting and even being ruled by warlords for a time, I think the long term benefits of the people of Afghanistan finally being emancipated from this curse that is "Afghanistan" far exceeds the inevitable costs.