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  • #31
    Originally posted by Toramana View Post
    Da Bannu Mazdigar is an absolute idiot (lower degree of mental impairment than a moron). He lumps Sindhis with Sikhs on the basis of some hypothetical ancestral link with a bygone civilization (5000 years ago) not seeing that Sindhis don't feel one with Sikhs nor Sikhs with Sindhis because both don't feel any conscious link with Indus Civilization.
    lol

    This "Mazdigar" guy is hilarious and with a serious confused identity crisis

    - On the one hand he accuses me of planning to "divide" Pashtuns and then supports the construction of walls to - guess what? - physically divide Pashtuns!

    Yes, a wall to separate the Pashtuns of Afghankhwa and Pakhtunkhwa.


    - He says he is "secular" and then insults Shias. The same Shias who are being massacred by terrorist thugs with connections to the Pakistani military he reveres.


    - He insults Afghans as "Tajikized" and "Farsified" etc but accuses others of wanting to "divide" Pashtuns, as if he is "unifying them"...lol.



    - He calls Afghans "Shiazed" as if he is some sort of militant Sunni fundamentalist and then elsewhere talks about how important Buddhism is for Pakistan's historical identity!

    He insults Shias but then defends pornography in other threads.


    All i can say is grow up kids,grow up

    what is wrong being watching gay or animal porn?

    Sometime i think we Pakistan indeed are into transformation mode and i hope within a decade or more we will be as much secular as much the turkey Is.


    #Post 5

    (I have him on ignore but I could see that on post 6, I quoted his post 5 comment).

    - So the guy who insults Shias (presumably because they are not "good" Muslims) simultenously defends porn.


    Now we have new stupidity in the form of some long ancient civilization that 90% of Pakistanis in heavily feudal and fundamentalist Pakistan would disassociate themselves from!!



    LOLZZZ!




    P.S. If anyone refutes him, he starts swearing at them, threatening them and insulting their family so be careful guys.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
      lol

      This "Mazdigar" guy is hilarious and with a serious confused identity crisis

      - On the one hand he accuses me of planning to "divide" Pashtuns and then supports the construction of walls to - guess what? - physically divide Pashtuns!

      Yes, a wall to separate the Pashtuns of Afghankhwa and Pakhtunkhwa.


      - He says he is "secular" and then insults Shias. The same Shias who are being massacred by terrorist thugs with connections to the Pakistani military he reveres.


      - He insults Afghans as "Tajikized" and "Farsified" etc but accuses others of wanting to "divide" Pashtuns, as if he is "unifying them"...lol.



      - He calls Afghans "Shiazed" as if he is some sort of militant Sunni fundamentalist and then elsewhere talks about how important Buddhism is for Pakistan's historical identity!

      He insults Shias but then defends pornography in other threads.






      #Post 5

      (I have him on ignore but I could see that on post 6, I quoted his post 5 comment).

      - So the guy who insults Shias (presumably because they are not "good" Muslims) simultenously defends porn.


      Now we have new stupidity in the form of some long ancient civilization that 90% of Pakistanis in heavily feudal and fundamentalist Pakistan would disassociate themselves from!!



      LOLZZZ!




      P.S. If anyone refutes him, he starts swearing at them, threatening them and insulting their family so be careful guys.
      Insult shias?When?do you even know what does insulting mean

      anyway your father must be proud of you,was he a retired colonel?
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
        Paracha:

        Mehrgarh Civlization of Balochistan certainly prove that Pakistanis basically are the ancestors of not only 180Million Pakistanis but north indians aswell.

        Paracha though are south indian people,Not sure about the numbers of paracha otherwise i would have substracted them from the 180Million mark
        Da Bannu Khar (donkey of Bannu), no body knows what was the language, ethnicity, or the beliefs of the people of Indus Valley Civilization. The different theories about these aspects of the lives of the people of Indus Civilization are conjectures deduced from archaeological findings. And those too are most of the time conflicting.

        Were Indus Civilization an important component of Sikh and Sindhi identity, Sikhs and Sindhis would have had a strong connection to each other based on the common ancestral link with the people of Indus Valley Civilization. But you have so much been sodomized (intellectually) in the military academies and regiments of the Paki Army that you cannot think and discover beyond what has been shoven up your body.

        Only living languages, religions, values, cultures, ancestral links, etc. can bind people together not some ancient civilization that is the relic of the past.

        You can go and "sattalai sha kwanai da khpalo Punjabyano palaranu" but we Pashtun will not accept any other identity except our own Pashtun and Islamic identity.
        Last edited by Toramana; 06-02-2014, 05:53 PM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
          Considering that buddhism was the ancient religion of almost 60-70% Pakistanis.

          The Govt should declare Buddhism as the state religion of Pakistan along with Islam.

          We should not forgot what we were even after accepting Islam

          Buddhist history and Proud

          Based on authentic sources, this section comprises of multimedia, articles and discussions on the religion of Islam.




          LOLZZZ!!


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          • #35
            Originally posted by Toramana View Post
            Da Bannu Khar (donkey of Bannu), no body knows what was the language, ethnicity, or the beliefs of the people of Indus Valley Civilization. The different theories about these aspects are conjectures deduced from archaeological findings. And those too are too conflicting.

            Were Indus Civilization an important component of Sikh and Sindhi identity, Sikhs and Sindhis would have had a strong connection to each other based on the common ancestral link with the people of Indus Valley Civilization. But you have so much been sodomized (intellectually) in the military academies and regiments of the Paki Army that you cannot think and discover beyond what has been shoven up your body.

            Only living languages, religions, values, cultures, ancestral links, etc. can bind people together not some ancient civilization that is the relic of the past.

            You can go and "sattalai sha kwanai da khpalo Punjabyano palaranu" but we Pashtun will not accept any other identity except our own Pashtun and Islamic identity.
            de surr bachya,

            How the hell you claim to be a muslim?Arent you of your cousin kind?

            I still claim that Paracha are not human.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
              de surr bachya,

              How the hell you claim to be a muslim?Arent you of your cousin kind?

              I still claim that Paracha are not human.
              Da Bannu Khar, whatever my religious belief I am still a part of Muslim community and have that heritage. But how can a mentally-challenged understand that.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                Da Bannu Khar, whatever my religious belief I am still a part of Muslim community and have that heritage. But how can a mentally-challenged understand that.
                Islam de sta de plar malkiat naday no che ta sa hum kaway musalmon baway.

                If it was not the religious factor and his love for PPP,I would have likedyour cousin and his satirist skills since atleast he's proud of what he's unlike you
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
                  your comment is inaccurate because Pakistan was carved out of British India and not the Republic of India that was created on August 15, 1947 one day after Pakistan!

                  Pakistan's Eastern people are Indic NOT Indian, there's a difference, it's like if i call Afghans "Iranians" that would be wrong because there's a difference between Iranic and Iranian, sameway there's a difference between Indic and Indian.

                  And Bannu Mazdigars comment was accurate, all of the history of the land that makes up Pakistan, is our history, we're the inheritors of the Indus valley,Gandhara,Mehrgarh civilisations it doesn't matter what the name of this land is now, is still the same land.

                  And yes Punjabis and Sindis descend from Hindu converts(not the Sindhi-baloch tho) but Pashtuns and Baloch descend from Zoroaster converts so i don't see how you're superior.
                  Pakistan is welcome to draw on the history of the land that it sits on, and there is nothing wrong with acknowledging the Indian, and therefore the Hindu nature of its past. The state narrative in Pakistan is out to deny this, so both you and [MENTION=10678]Da Bannu Mazdigar[/MENTION] cannot move past the fallacy that the entire history of the region stems from contemporary Pakistan. You don't consider the chronology of historic events because if you did, you would find that Pakistan appears at the end and not at the beginning of your timeline.

                  Again, this attempt to rewrite the history is all about feel-good. The problem however is whilst you guys pretend to believe in this fantasy version of history, the rest of the world thinks very differently.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by tor_khan View Post
                    Pakistan is welcome to draw on the history of the land that it sits on, and there is nothing wrong with acknowledging the Indian, and therefore the Hindu nature of its past.
                    Eastern parts of Pakistan did have a Hindu past but calling it an "Indian" past would be like me calling Afghanistan's history as "Iranian".


                    The state narrative in Pakistan is out to deny this, so both you and [MENTION=10678]Da Bannu Mazdigar[/MENTION] cannot move past the fallacy that the entire history of the region stems from contemporary Pakistan. You don't consider the chronology of historic events because if you did, you would find that Pakistan appears at the end and not at the beginning of your timeline.
                    That is false, the Pakistani governent doesn't deny it, infact they teach this in schools, Moenjo-daro is on the back of the 20 rupee bill and it's protected by the national government, also the new airport in Islamabad is called Gandhara airport, there are schools named after Indus and companies too and Pakistan's population is mostly concentrated along the Indus river,you're just reiterating the same propaganda the Indian media feeds you in Afghanistan.



                    Again, this attempt to rewrite the history is all about feel-good. The problem however is whilst you guys pretend to believe in this fantasy version of history, the rest of the world thinks very differently.
                    No, the world admires the Indus valley civilastion, when i was Taxilla i met European tourists that were visiting to see the ruins of gandhara civilisation, and all over the world historians and archaelogists admire the artifacts discovered in Pakistan, we believe in no fantasy, we believe in reality which unfortunately you're too high to realize
                    "I bow to no one, except ALLAH. I dont bow to punjabay, do not bow to kabulay and afghanay, do not bow to faujay and mullay, do not bow to asfandyarwalay and petty khanays...i am traitor to all of them." - Smartay

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
                      Eastern parts of Pakistan did have a Hindu past but calling it an "Indian" past would be like me calling Afghanistan's history as "Iranian".
                      Dishonesty of unlimited magnitude denying that Pakistanis were not a part of India or most of the Sindhis, Punjabis, Mahajars don't have ethnic, cultural, and linguistic connection with India, Hindus, Sikhs, and other Indic groups.

                      We have Jatts here and Jatts on the other side of Wahga. The same goes for Rajput, Arrayain, etc. etc.

                      Now Pakistanis may be in denial and plunging their heads in the sand thinking the world cannot see and recognize them but the fact is, the world knows and recognize them as the same stock as Indians.

                      It would have been more dignified and rational of you saying that although we had a shared past with Hindus and were till very recent past an integral part of India and still are the closest people to them in everything except may be religion but now that we have separate country we want a new identity for ourselves.

                      And when was Pakistan in existence in continuity from Indus or that matter Gandhara Civilization. Why not base your identity on something more concrete, useful, and realistic than on mere myth and outright forgery?

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                      • #41
                        Afghanistan region itself is recorded in Hindu texts as land of Hindus.

                        Funny to see Afghans claiming otherwise. lol

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                          Dishonesty of unlimited magnitude denying that Pakistanis were not a part of India or most of the Sindhis, Punjabis, Mahajars don't have ethnic, cultural, and linguistic connection with India, Hindus, Sikhs, and other Indic groups.

                          We have Jatts here and Jatts on the other side of Wahga. The same goes for Rajput, Arrayain, etc. etc.

                          Now Pakistanis may be in denial and plunging their heads in the sand thinking the world cannot see and recognize them but the fact is, the world knows and recognize them as the same stock as Indians.

                          It would have been more dignified and rational of you saying that although we had a shared past with Hindus and were till very recent past an integral part of India and still are the closest people to them in everything except may be religion but now that we have separate country we want a new identity for ourselves.

                          And when was Pakistan in existence in continuity from Indus or that matter Gandhara Civilization. Why not base your identity on something more concrete, useful, and realistic than on mere myth and outright forgery?


                          This all so funny coming from you.






                          LOL

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                            Da Bannu Khar (donkey of Bannu), no body knows what was the language, ethnicity, or the beliefs of the people of Indus Valley Civilization. The different theories about these aspects of the lives of the people of Indus Civilization are conjectures deduced from archaeological findings. And those too are most of the time conflicting.

                            Were Indus Civilization an important component of Sikh and Sindhi identity, Sikhs and Sindhis would have had a strong connection to each other based on the common ancestral link with the people of Indus Valley Civilization. But you have so much been sodomized (intellectually) in the military academies and regiments of the Paki Army that you cannot think and discover beyond what has been shoven up your body.

                            Only living languages, religions, values, cultures, ancestral links, etc. can bind people together not some ancient civilization that is the relic of the past.

                            You can go and "sattalai sha kwanai da khpalo Punjabyano palaranu" but we Pashtun will not accept any other identity except our own Pashtun and Islamic identity.
                            Dude you are so retarded, it is unbelievable. Sikh faith came in what 17th century? What does it have to to do with IVC?

                            Please go kill yourself before killing your retarded cousin Nadeem F Paracha.

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                            • #44
                              I had heard that NFP is a ahmadiya?can anyone confirm?

                              They are ex business class bohra shia(His ancestors)
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                                I had heard that NFP is a ahmadiya?can anyone confirm?

                                They are ex business class bohra shia(His ancestors)
                                Your baba-e-qaum was also a shia
                                [URL="http://historyofpashtuns.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/afghan-sikh-wars.html"][SIZE=5][COLOR=Green]History of Pashtuns[/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL]

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