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The sign of a coward person is, he is very ruthless with the weak and bends on all four when he faces the stronger one. Paki Punjabi Army has fought 2 real wars and 2 indirect wars through proxies.
In the two real wars, it didn't want to fight but things escalated to full-scale wars. For example, in 1965, the Punjabi Army thought it can snatch Kashmir through deceit and so sent in commandos (operation Gibraltar) to foment rebellion in Kashmir. It thought the conflict will be confined to Kashmir. But India converted it into full-scale war by attacking Wahaga, Sialkot border. After 21 days, Pakistan was begging for a ceasefire. According to independent analysts, had the war been prolonged, the total defeat of Pakistan was certain.
In the 1971 war, Punjabis arrogantly attacked Bangladesh. Yahya Khan said I will fight my way through the Bay of Bangal. They thought Bangalis will submit within no time. But when confronted with a matching force, they forgot all the bragging and shamefully submitted to Indians. It was the most humiliating surrender in history to an enemy army. Many generals ran away even plundering banks while escaping.
Pashtuns have seen such things in history from Alexander to Gengiz Khan, to Mughals, to British, etc. yet they are still there as a people. They will still be there. But Punjabis once defeated in their home will cease as an independent people and will have no other option but to beg Indians or other Muslim nationalities in the vicinity for protection and survival.Last edited by Toramana; 05-22-2014, 07:18 PM.
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Pakistan Army fought the 1999 Kargil and 1948 war through proxies (1999, Northern Light Infantry NLI mostly comprising Gilgitis and FC, Pashtuns, 1948 Pashtuns). How misguided these Gilgitis and Pashtuns were, at least they fought till death and didn't shamefully surrender.Last edited by Toramana; 05-22-2014, 07:30 PM.
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Pakistani author Pervaiz Iqbal Cheema notes that Muhammad Musa, Pakistan's Chief of the Army Staff, was reportedly so confident that the plan would succeed and conflict would be localized to Kashmir that he did not inform the Air Force, as he believed the operation would not require any major air action.[17]
Indo-Pakistani War of 1965[edit]
Main article: Indo-Pakistani War of 1965
This war started following Pakistan's Operation Gibraltar, which was designed to infiltrate forces into Jammu and Kashmir to precipitate an insurgency against rule by India. India retaliated by launching a full-scale military attack on West Pakistan. The seventeen-day war caused thousands of casualties on both sides and also witnessed the largest tank battle since World War II. The hostilities between the two countries ended after a ceasefire was declared following diplomatic intervention by the Soviet Union and USA and the subsequent issuance of the Tashkent Declaration.[5] Both India and Pakistan claimed victory. However, most neutral assessments agree that India had the upper hand over Pakistan when ceasefire was declared.[6][7][8][9][10]
Indo-Pakistani War of 1971[edit]
Main article: Indo-Pakistan War of 1971
Further information: Bangladesh Liberation War
This war was unique in that it did not involve the issue of Kashmir, but was rather precipitated by the crisis created by the political battle between Sheikh Mujib, Leader of East Pakistan and Yahya-Bhutto, leaders of West Pakistan brewing in erstwhile East Pakistan culminating in the declaration of Independence of Bangladesh from the state system of Pakistan. Following Operation Searchlight and the 1971 Bangladesh atrocities, about 10 million Bengalis in East Pakistan took refuge in neighbouring India.[11] India intervened in the ongoing Bangladesh liberation movement.[12][13] After a large scale pre-emptive strike by Pakistan, full-scale hostilities between the two countries commenced. Within two weeks of intense fighting, Pakistani forces in East Pakistan surrendered to the joint command of Indian and Bangladeshi forces following which the People's Republic of Bangladesh was created.[14] This war saw the highest number of casualties in any of the India-Pakistan conflicts, as well as the largest number of prisoners of war since the Second World War after the surrender of more than 90,000 Pakistani military and civilians.[15] In the words of one Pakistani Author, "Pakistan lost half its navy, a quarter of its air force and a third of its army".[16]
Last edited by Toramana; 05-22-2014, 08:21 PM.
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1. The Pakistan army folded after just 2 weeks of fighting a force their own size, the Indian army in 1971.Originally posted by Toramana View PostPakistan Army fought the 1999 Kargil and 1948 war through proxies (1999, Northern Light Infantry NLI mostly comprising Gilgitis and FC, Pashtuns, 1948 Pashtuns). How misguided these Gilgitis and Pashtuns were, at least they fought till death and didn't shamefully surrender.
Prior to that they were massacring unarmed civilians, women and children and had sex camps to rape women.
There were lightly unarmed liberation fighters (Mukti Bahini) who carried out a guerilla campaign but they weren't comparable to the American-Saudi backed Pakistan army with its arsenal.
2. The 1971 war is the biggest war out of the "four wars" (this is the number that people give) Pakistan has fought and in reality in terms of two equal parties i.e. India v Pakistan it lasted for 2 weeks.
3. The Indian army is more professional and capable than the Pakistan army.
The Indian army has never used fighter jets or other such weapons against its own citizens e.g. Kashmir.
Kashmiris have a different religion, race, language, culture everything to most Indians but the Indian army did not use fighter jets or other things.
Pashtuns in Pakistan have the same religion, race (as the Pashtuns in the army who are supposed to be 40% of the ISI), language etc.
However despite heavy rhetoric of Islam, the Pakistan army has used fighter jets against Pakistani civilians (Pashtuns) and killed women and children.
4. If the Pakistan army was still in Bangladesh, they would repeat the 1971 genocide as they have not changed in the least.
5. The Pakistani population as a whole are very nationalistic and fundamentalist and many worship their army and support it blindly, in their eyes if children die so be it. Anything is worth it for the glory of Pakistan.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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I am not getting it, why Still TTP want peace deals with the Govt.?
anyway the Army it seems like is not letting the Govt for peace deal.Curfew will be taken off on sunday and the families will be relocated to Bannu for only 1 week.May be a minor operation.
To mashal radio a local doesnt reported any civlian death but complained about his destroyed shop aswell as threatened the govt that he will move in to Afghanistan if the govt doesnt care for us."[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"
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ASAD IS a free man.He is not a pupet of west.Thats why the west hate him.Originally posted by abassinafghan View Poststrange ,if assad does the same thing in syria every one calls him a kafir and dictator ,people even drive to syria to fight against him destroying every bit of the country , not so in pakistan ....
it seems people are more concernd about palestinians and syrians than their own people
West need a good servant and slave.
pakistan was created by westren world and the rulers of pakistan are the best slaves and servants.
The west hate pashtuns.They know the history of this great nation.
We have defeated their ancesters .
Pakistani authorities can not continue this war forvever.
The the flow of dollars will end oneday.
The world powers and the saudis are on the side of pakistan.
The bbc,aljazeera etc never exposed the genocides of pashtuns and Baluchs.Think about it why?

Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.
pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
hamza baba
پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
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pls stop this ttp drama.Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View PostI am not getting it, why Still TTP want peace deals with the Govt.?
anyway the Army it seems like is not letting the Govt for peace deal.Curfew will be taken off on sunday and the families will be relocated to Bannu for only 1 week.May be a minor operation.
To mashal radio a local doesnt reported any civlian death but complained about his destroyed shop aswell as threatened the govt that he will move in to Afghanistan if the govt doesnt care for us.
TTP IS just the name paki authorities use.
It is terrorists group working under pakistan army and isi.
nawaz sharif himself is in conflict with isi and army.
The army and isi are making fool of the world.
Their man on the ground imran khan is a spokesman for ttp/isi.
Imran and paid isi agent pervaiz khatak offered to open up office for ttp in peshawar.
How can the elected govt offered office to a baned terrorist group think about it.

Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.
pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
hamza baba
پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
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What are your thoughts then Gadoon Saib about why Al Jazeera broadcast this?:Originally posted by gadoonwal View PostASAD IS a free man.He is not a pupet of west.Thats why the west hate him.
West need a good servant and slave.
pakistan was created by westren world and the rulers of pakistan are the best slaves and servants.
The west hate pashtuns.They know the history of this great nation.
We have defeated their ancesters .
Pakistani authorities can not continue this war forvever.
The the flow of dollars will end oneday.
The world powers and the saudis are on the side of pakistan.
The bbc,aljazeera etc never exposed the genocides of pashtuns and Baluchs.Think about it why?
http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/...372863878.html"2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote
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Originally posted by Loy Afghanistan View PostSo sad, innocent child dead because of Porkis.
I bet, Danu Banu kuni bazingar, is celebrating all bombs dropped on these Pashtuns by British proxy army the pigs of mix raced region called porkistan.
Even Prophet Muhammad(SAW) Hated you Shia's.
Now go and beat yourself in public.
Mushrakeen"[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"
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No sadness, no regret, only pure evil happiness from Danu banu kuni bazingaar, when Pashtuns die in areas bombared by terrorist panj baboonian army and their slaves beghariat fighting against civilians.Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View PostEven Prophet Muhammad(SAW) Hated you Shia's.
Now go and beat yourself in public.
Mushrakeen
I am not Shia, you homosexual sub animal. But you like to take in the ass and hurt yourself that is a great sin, make you worse than those Shia you down talk. I don't smoke, don't drink, I exercise hard to get much better epigenetic qualities when I get married when I am 30-32. all these gifts learned not only from the Qura'n but medicine studies and private experimental research by my own. Go spread more aids in Porkistan, you false evil preacher.To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.
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You should not be ashamed of being shia because you can become a true muslim anytime you want.Originally posted by Loy Afghanistan View PostNo sadness, no regret, only pure evil happiness from Danu banu kuni bazingaar, when Pashtuns die in areas bombared by terrorist panj baboonian army and their slaves beghariat fighting against civilians.
I am not Shia, you homosexual sub animal. But you like to take in the ass and hurt yourself that is a great sin, make you worse than those Shia you down talk. I don't smoke, don't drink, I exercise hard to get much better epigenetic qualities when I get married when I am 30-32. all these gifts learned not only from the Qura'n but medicine studies and private experimental research by my own. Go spread more aids in Porkistan, you false evil preacher.
It doesnt matter to me whether you smoke,drink or whatever research your into as long as your a Parsiwand."[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"
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