Afghanistan´s two best presidents ever

[25tajik75pashtun]

"Islamism" - invented by the enemies of Allah horror story.

The same wahabbism and islamism you see rampant today whether from al-qaeda to the taliban was seen as extremely unislamic and as backwater savage desert culture by the Ottomans. You'll trust the words and actions of some paki trained and educated pashtuns who brainwash children to strap bombs to themselves and blow themselves up or will you trust the words of various Ottoman caliphs, and even grand muftis of egypt, jerusalem and various other strongholds of islam who condemn the taliban and their behaviour?

[Zubr-Zubr]

1. Sure Taliban are fighting against women and children. The cut every basic right of women. They prevent children from being educated. Afghan children didn't know (and outside of Kabul still don't know) that it wasn't "God" or something illusionary which created our world.

You hear yourself? The Taliban has never been against the education system and never violated the rights of women. The Taliban protect women. Afghan women in the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan were better protected than in America. No one looked at them as goods.

[Zubr-Zubr]

2. Of course they started - in the 1980s against the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan. And furthermore, it is quite funny that you always mention the US as enemies of Taliban - in fact, Taliban were supported by the Americans.

"Democratic Republic of Afghanistan" - a Soviet project aimed at mass destruction of Afghan Muslims.

[25tajik75pashtun]

You hear yourself? The Taliban has never been against the education system and never violated the rights of women. The Taliban protect women. Afghan women in the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan were better protected than in America. No one looked at them as goods.

The taliban only wanted education about Islam, that's it, anything western was haram to them and off limits. The taliban violated the rights of women quite a lot, often beating them and not allowing them to learn how to read or do math.

Afghan women whether under taliban rule or even now have no rights at all compared to women in america, let's not forget afghan women (kids actually) are often sold or given away to other families to settle blood feuds of all things. Are you so weak willed of a man that you can't keep your gaze from women? Are afghan men so pathetic as you imply? You're a joke, your existence on european soil is haram, and honestly you should go back to saudi arabia and please don't bring your backwards ways back to afghanistan, we don't need more of you.

[Zubr-Zubr]

Honestly these people are too small minded, it's the reason why afghanistan has fallen so far behind and how pashtuns are the laughing stock of the area whether to iranians, pakis or indians.

In contrast to the Iranians, Punjabis and Indians Pashtuns have not sold their national culture of the European colonizers. You look at Iran - Iranians in all copies Europe and America.

[Zubr-Zubr]

These poor Europeans...

Europeans it pigs.

[25tajik75pashtun]

In contrast to the Iranians, Punjabis and Indians Pashtuns have not sold their national culture of the European colonizers. You look at Iran - Iranians in all copies Europe and America.

You're kidding right? Pashtuns aside from some patriots like King Amanullah Khan (who by your standards is a kaffir) always fought for whoever gave them the most money.

Iranians copy europe and america? Let's say they do, life in the worst parts of iran are infinitely better than life in the best parts of afghanistan. Bundjabis can go **** themselves and Indians themselves have far too many problems to lay blame on copying from america/europe.

Honestly, you should go back to afghanistan and join the taliban and remove the kaffirs from our soil no? If you blow yourself up you'll even go to heaven!

[Zubr-Zubr]

Oh yes of course you're an immigrant rat. It's haram for you to leech education of kaffirs you do know this, right? Why not go to a muslim country and learn there? Europe and european culture, no matter what terrible things they've done far surpass anything afghans ever have or will be able to achieve let alone the taliban.

You or have never been to Europe or have never been to Afghanistan. Europeans have more problems than the Afghans. Afghans have only one problem - the occupation.

[Zubr-Zubr]

You've never lived in afghanistan and seen it for the filth that it is like I have I'm guessing, but go ahead and keep leeching off the backs of europeans while at the same time denying those same rights to afghans in afghanistan. I honestly hope for a day where the disease of hypocrism is eradicated from the minds of afghans and of muslims.
siraqam ghat munafiq ye

You are not right.

[25tajik75pashtun]

You or have never been to Europe or have never been to Afghanistan. Europeans have more problems than the Afghans. Afghans have only one problem - the occupation.

I've been to afghanistan many times, european problems are more than afghans? Are you kidding me right now? While your countrymen are starving, while they are being blown up by their own countrymen, europeans are living comfortable lives.

As I said, if you are as true of a "muslim" as you say you are, go back to afghanistan and join the taliban and their effort to remove foreign occupiers from afghan soil - even if you die you'll be a shahid and go to heaven, there's nothing for you to lose, Allah will take care of your family for example if you want to use that excuse.

[Zubr-Zubr]

The same wahabbism and islamism you see rampant today whether from al-qaeda to the taliban was seen as extremely unislamic and as backwater savage desert culture by the Ottomans. You'll trust the words and actions of some paki trained and educated pashtuns who brainwash children to strap bombs to themselves and blow themselves up or will you trust the words of various Ottoman caliphs, and even grand muftis of egypt, jerusalem and various other strongholds of islam who condemn the taliban and their behaviour?

The Taliban never espoused the ideology of Wahhabism. You know that. Al-Qaeda is not the enemy of Afghanistan and Muslims. This organization is the enemy of America. All of America's enemies are friends and allies of Afghanistan.

[25tajik75pashtun]

The Taliban never espoused the ideology of Wahhabism. You know that. Al-Qaeda is not the enemy of Afghanistan and Muslims. This organization is the enemy of America. All of America's enemies are friends and allies of Afghanistan.

So iran is an ally of afghanistan? Pakistan is an ally of afghanistan? How stupid and deluded can you be?

[Zubr-Zubr]

The taliban only wanted education about Islam, that's it, anything western was haram to them and off limits. The taliban violated the rights of women quite a lot, often beating them and not allowing them to learn how to read or do math.

Islamic education is the best education. What else is necessary to Afghanistan? The Taliban have built in Afghanistan theocratic state and only the Islamic system of education was demanded. It should be in a Muslim country. As to women, the Taliban did with them in justice, as it is taught in the Quran and Sunnah.

[Zubr-Zubr]

Afghan women whether under taliban rule or even now have no rights at all compared to women in america, let's not forget afghan women (kids actually) are often sold or given away to other families to settle blood feuds of all things. Are you so weak willed of a man that you can't keep your gaze from women? Are afghan men so pathetic as you imply? You're a joke, your existence on european soil is haram, and honestly you should go back to saudi arabia and please don't bring your backwards ways back to afghanistan, we don't need more of you.

You consider yourself smarter than Allah? As Allah has commanded to treat women so the Taliban and turned. Envy America and Europe? Go to America or Europe.

[Zubr-Zubr]

You're kidding right? Pashtuns aside from some patriots like King Amanullah Khan (who by your standards is a kaffir) always fought for whoever gave them the most money.

This is not true. Pashtuns are the only ethnic group in Afghanistan, who always defended Afghanistan and always fought on the side of justice. Actually the independence of Afghanistan throughout the history of the country was provided by Pashtuns. Uzbeks, Tajiks and Hazaras are ready to sell Afghanistan to any aggressor.