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    Ghani vows comeback to win Afghan election run-off

    By Usman Sharifi April 27, 2014 3:59 AM













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    Kabul (AFP) - Afghan presidential candidate Ashraf Ghani pledged Sunday to fight on after coming second in preliminary election results, setting the stage for a difficult run-off vote likely to be targeted by Taliban militants.
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    Another expensive, and potentially violent, election could be avoided by negotiations between the two leading candidates in the coming weeks, but both sides have dismissed talks of a possible power-sharing deal.
    Ghani, a ex-World Bank economist, secured 31.5 percent of the vote, behind former foreign minister Abdullah Abdullah on 44.9 percent, in the April 5 election that began Afghanistan's first democratic transfer of power.
    "In the second round, the people should decide who has the ability to bring changes to the system," Ghani told supporters in Kabul.
    "We will go for a second round with determination. Our belief in victory is still strong."
    As no candidate gained more than 50 percent, a run-off between the two leading names is required under the Afghan constitution.
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    Afghan presidential candidates Ashraf Ghani, (L), Abdullah Abdullah (C) and Qayum Karzai arrive for …

    Ghani said that investigations into fraud could change the percentages before final results are due on May 14.
    "After inspection of fraud, the distance between the two top candidates will lessen," he said. "A second round is a must according to constitution. Any doubts will threaten the stability of Afghanistan.
    "We will go for principles, not deals," he added. "The people's votes tell me not to strike any deals with anyone behind the curtains.
    "We are ready, the people are ready, I call on the international community not to doubt our determination.
    "If the polls are transparent, I will be the first to congratulate the winner, and we expect the same from them, because we will be the winner."
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    Ahmad Yousuf Nuristani, head of the Afghan Independent Election Commission, speaks during a press co …

    Whoever becomes the next president will have to oversee the fight against a resilient Taliban insurgency as 51,000 US-led troops depart this year, as well as strengthen an economy that relies on declining aid money.
    - Run-off poises security risks -
    Eight men ran in the election three weeks ago, with polling day hailed a success by Afghan officials and foreign allies as the Taliban failed to launch a major attack despite threats to disrupt the vote.
    The United Nations' mission in Afghanistan welcomed Sunday's results, but warned election officials that they must address all complaints "in a professional, expeditious and open manner" to safeguard the process.
    The 2009 election, when Karzai retained power, was marred by fraud in a chaotic process that shook confidence in the multinational effort to develop the country and also marked a sharp decline in relations with the United States.
    Karzai stayed publically neutral in this latest election, but was widely thought to have lent some support to his loyal former foreign minister Zalmai Rassoul, who took just 11 percent of the vote.
    Rassoul could still play a key role in power-brokering before the next president is chosen, as could former Islamist warlord Abdul Rab Rasoul Sayyaf, who collected a seven percent.
    Abdullah, a pro-US politician who came second in 2009, was a close adviser to the late Ahmad Shah Massoud, a revered Tajik ethnic leader who fought the Taliban during their 1996-2001 rule.
    Ghani is a renowned intellectual who energised the campaign with his fiery speeches and is more favoured by the larger Pashtun ethnic group.
    The leading candidates have pledged to explore peace talks with the Taliban and sign a deal with the US that could allow 10,000 US troops to stay on after this year on a training and counter-terrorism mission.
    Nearly seven million people voted in the April 5 election out of an estimated electorate of 13.5 million -- well above the 2009 turnout.
    Of those who voted, 36 percent were female -- a figure likely to be seen as a sign of some improvement in women's status in Afghanistan, a deeply conservative Muslim country.


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    he acts like he has already won
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    • #3
      verily

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      • #4
        "Ethnic-orientated run-off" Much of the talk in round-table discussions revolved around the conduct of the IEC. Daud Moradian, director of Afghanistan Center for Strategic Studies, participated in a round-table on Tolo News where he criticized the work of the election commissions. He said that the IEC and ECC staff did not have a unified stance on certain issues and it shows that they supported different institutions and teams. Moradian predicted that the run-off will be "ethnic-oriented" and that "if any presidential candidate loses in the race, his ethnic group will consider his defeat as the defeat of their ethnic group." Others were more upbeat. Aziz Rafayee, director of Afghanistan Civil Society Union, who also participated in the roundtable on Tolo News, expressed his optimism as far as the political maturity of the people of Afghanistan is concerned. “The people of Afghanistan are mostly reactive when it comes to their political stance and participation in political decisions. I believe that if the people of Afghanistan decide, nothing can stand on their way,” argued Rafayee. Former IEC chairman: commission made mistakes Perhaps the strongest indictment of the IEC’S work came from its former chairman. Fazel Ahmad Manowi, participating in a roundtable on Kabul News, described the work of his former organization as problematic, condemning the lack of a decision on the outcome of votes in certain areas. Manowi said votes were still missing or unsorted in certain areas and that the commission should clarify these ASAP if its integrity was to remain intact. - See more at: http://www.afghanistan-today.org/art....h9CPRsbX.dpuf Mr Ghani will most-likely lose even with lesser votes than he had in the first round

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        • #5
          "...U.S. officials said NATO’s own analysis of the first round of voting points to an even larger Abdullah win in the second round, which could damage Ghani—effectively ending the political career of a man seen as uniquely able to navigate the world of the international aid and economic development needed to keep Afghanistan afloat. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly...." http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...allot-box.html

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bost Bastan News View Post
            "Ethnic-orientated run-off" Much of the talk in round-table discussions revolved around the conduct of the IEC. Daud Moradian, director of Afghanistan Center for Strategic Studies, participated in a round-table on Tolo News where he criticized the work of the election commissions. He said that the IEC and ECC staff did not have a unified stance on certain issues and it shows that they supported different institutions and teams. Moradian predicted that the run-off will be "ethnic-oriented" and that "if any presidential candidate loses in the race, his ethnic group will consider his defeat as the defeat of their ethnic group." Others were more upbeat. Aziz Rafayee, director of Afghanistan Civil Society Union, who also participated in the roundtable on Tolo News, expressed his optimism as far as the political maturity of the people of Afghanistan is concerned. “The people of Afghanistan are mostly reactive when it comes to their political stance and participation in political decisions. I believe that if the people of Afghanistan decide, nothing can stand on their way,” argued Rafayee. Former IEC chairman: commission made mistakes Perhaps the strongest indictment of the IEC’S work came from its former chairman. Fazel Ahmad Manowi, participating in a roundtable on Kabul News, described the work of his former organization as problematic, condemning the lack of a decision on the outcome of votes in certain areas. Manowi said votes were still missing or unsorted in certain areas and that the commission should clarify these ASAP if its integrity was to remain intact. - See more at: http://www.afghanistan-today.org/art....h9CPRsbX.dpuf Mr Ghani will most-likely lose even with lesser votes than he had in the first round
            im reading your articles at the moment
            my impression he will lose
            to me he seems to have delusions of grandeur
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Hallo View Post
              im reading your articles at the moment
              my impression he will lose
              to me he seems to have delusions of grandeur
              In my opinion Mr Ghani became in the last 2weeks a megalomaniac person who knows that he doesn´t have anything to lose anymore. Now he will do anything. From our point of view Ghani will swtich to pure and sibple Pashtunism and will discredit Pashtunist even more. Mr. Abdullah´s side will most likely not take him and his team seriously. He knows he is loosing so he has adopted the stances of the right wing Yoon and he will be more offensive this time and will definitely have more on 1990s war in kabul. Mr Ghani is rhetorical weak. He is revealing his internal thoughts, the thoughts which Mr Amrullah Saleh referred to when he said that there is a difference between the public slogans and the internal slogan of Ghani team or his own private slogans. He knows this is his last chance so he will do his utmost to succeed but he will hat he will not succeed. Currently it looks like he is just going to crash and burn and as his condition gets worse and worse he will scream even more. In time he will start hitting the Aziz Royesh Hazara nationalist gang and open swear at Dostum. As we see, he can cross his limits, all the levels Just look how he has changed within weeks from his appereance. He looks very tired and weak. I think he has ordered Dostum to not show his face on Tv or to speak to media especially after Dostum only gave Ghani 520'000 votes. It seems that The more Dostum appears the more votes Ghani looses from non-Uzbeks. I wonder how Dostum can stand this all.. Ghani is not a P yet, while Dostum, at this stage, is already marginalized. Ghani has multiple threats against Dostum, probably especially Human Rights reports full of fake and real accusations. But lets still not forget that these NA-''Massoudists'' should be punished as well.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bost Bastan News View Post
                In my opinion Mr Ghani became in the last 2weeks a megalomaniac person who knows that he doesn´t have anything to lose anymore. Now he will do anything. From our point of view Ghani will swtich to pure and sibple Pashtunism and will discredit Pashtunist even more. Mr. Abdullah´s side will most likely not take him and his team seriously. He knows he is loosing so he has adopted the stances of the right wing Yoon and he will be more offensive this time and will definitely have more on 1990s war in kabul. Mr Ghani is rhetorical weak. He is revealing his internal thoughts, the thoughts which Mr Amrullah Saleh referred to when he said that there is a difference between the public slogans and the internal slogan of Ghani team or his own private slogans. He knows this is his last chance so he will do his utmost to succeed but he will hat he will not succeed. Currently it looks like he is just going to crash and burn and as his condition gets worse and worse he will scream even more. In time he will start hitting the Aziz Royesh Hazara nationalist gang and open swear at Dostum. As we see, he can cross his limits, all the levels Just look how he has changed within weeks from his appereance. He looks very tired and weak. I think he has ordered Dostum to not show his face on Tv or to speak to media especially after Dostum only gave Ghani 520'000 votes. It seems that The more Dostum appears the more votes Ghani looses from non-Uzbeks. I wonder how Dostum can stand this all.. Ghani is not a P yet, while Dostum, at this stage, is already marginalized. Ghani has multiple threats against Dostum, probably especially Human Rights reports full of fake and real accusations. But lets still not forget that these NA-''Massoudists'' should be punished as well.
                yoon? what or who is it?

                abdullah was living in afghanistan the entire time in compare to ahmadzai

                ahmadzai is great thinker

                you can live outside of afghanistan and write lots of article with grade A

                abdullah knows exactly how people think in the country and how to play with them
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Hallo View Post
                  yoon? what or who is it?

                  abdullah was living in afghanistan the entire time in compare to ahmadzai

                  ahmadzai is great thinker

                  you can live outside of afghanistan and write lots of article with grade A

                  abdullah knows exactly how people think in the country and how to play with them
                  You are aware that he got his title ''The Second Global Thinker'' through a voting that was shared from group to group on all Afghan facebook groups and pages where admins were asking to vote for him? He did not got his title by global experts but by voting among our young activists on facebook. If not Mr Ghani but our Mayesty Mr. Karzai or even Dostum would have been appointed, all Uzbeks and most Afghans have voted for him as well, specially during those days of Jabha Mili, the northern alliance party that united Fariswans, Uzbeks and Hazara. People would have voted for him just because he was a politican and leader of jabha. People like Ghani (if you really think he is a thinker) are there in hundred thousands in Afghanistan and in millions in all other countries. We just fooled ourselve. Many western diplomats even call him an idiot or sick. Only Afghans keep calling him global world thinker. Listen to this from Mr. Oryakhil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbIRM0VegJ8 How can a ''Global Thinker'' commit such a stupid mistake??
                  Last edited by Bost Bastan News; 05-18-2014, 04:48 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bost Bastan News View Post
                    You are aware that he got his title ''The Second Global Thinker'' through a voting that was shared from group to group on all Afghan facebook groups and pages where admins were asking to vote for him? He did not got his title by global experts but by voting among our young activists on facebook. If not Mr Ghani but our Mayesty Mr. Karzai or even Dostum would have been appointed, all Uzbeks and most Afghans have voted for him as well, specially during those days of Jabha Mili, the northern alliance party that united Fariswans, Uzbeks and Hazara. People would have voted for him just because he was a politican and leader of jabha. People like Ghani (if you really think he is a thinker) are there in hundred thousands in Afghanistan and in millions in all other countries. We just fooled ourselve. Many western diplomats even call him an idiot or sick. Only Afghans keep calling him global world thinker. Listen to this from Mr. Oryakhil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbIRM0VegJ8 How can a ''Global Thinker'' commit such a stupid mistake??
                    put a smile on my face; show me this articles please

                    my pashto is to bad so i dont understand the video i pass

                    theory and practice are two different things which **** my brain my entire study
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                    • #11
                      ghani is an affront to president hood

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Hallo View Post
                        im reading your articles at the moment
                        my impression he will lose
                        to me he seems to have delusions of grandeur
                        He will definitely loose because powers want their horse, i.e., Mr Abdullah Abdullah to win.
                        Last edited by Toramana; 05-19-2014, 12:53 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Najam Sethi, a kattas Punjabi chauvinist says that Americans and Pakis, i.e., Paki military establishment has decided mutually that drone attacks in Pakistan will occur only with the approval of Paki military and will target only high-valued elements among the Paki and Afghan Taleban. One should read it as "high-valued elements as Al-Qaueda elements or elements opposed to American or Paki interest" Listen to the below at 24th minute.



                          So Abdullah Abdullah's victory and Ashraf Ghani's defeat is a part of a larger sinister agenda, which is to de-enfranchise liberal/nationalist Pashtuns and leave the region on both sides of the Durand Line unstable. This together with Pivot to Asia fits into the larger China-Russia-Iran containment policy and the policy to dominate Euroasia.

                          What should Ashraf Ghani do is the following.

                          1. He will not get vote from Tajak-Hazara areas no matter how hard he tries. So he should start taping into Pashtun nationalist sentiment and should become a true leader of Pashtuns. If possible he should also extend a hand of friendship to Taleban. If Pashtuns are to live under Taleban then why enmity with them.




                          2. Foreign military basis in Pashtun areas should be opposed by Pashtuns because the presence of such basis brings instability instead of peace.

                          3. Ashraf Ghani should reach out to those powers which are interested in piece in the Asia particularly in Central and South Asia. Obviously, such powers are China, Russia, Iran, etc. Together with these powers attempts of the occupying powers to destabilize the region through Taleban proxies should be opposed.

                          4. Ashraf Ghani and Taleban should lay low in the east and south. The only thing they should do is to keep reminding people in the north how occupying powers engineered the election of their puppet Abdullah Abdullah. The configuration of interests of the various players in the region is such that once the northern populations feel secure that they are not going to be attacked or dominated by Pashtuns or Talebans, anti-occupation sentiments in the northern populations i.e. Tajaks, Hazaras, Uzbaks, etc. are inevitable to rise.
                          Last edited by Toramana; 05-19-2014, 12:52 AM.

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                          • #14
                            This is what a Paki military serviceman says.

                            "Understanding has been reached between USA and Pakistan regarding care taking of Afghanistan after the NATO pull out; because the Afghan Army is incapable of keeping Taliban out. The obvious choice is Pakistan Army. But first step would involve removing Taliban from North Waziristan, where they were sheltered by the Pakistani Agencies just to make sure that India does not have a hold on Afghanistan.Peace Talks are just a show, the operation in North Waziristan will start in these summers, and Taliban will be flushed out. Afghanistan would be next undertaking. These Pashtunes have been pampered constantly for 67 years, now is the time to bring them under discipline. Afghanistn will be a part of Pakistan well before 2030."
                            Last edited by Toramana; 05-18-2014, 11:02 PM.

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                            • #15
                              By the way the following excerpt from the article that our Farsiwan friend Bast Bostan News posted above clearly indicates how does Ashraf Ghani perceive the developing situation and how he feels which powers are working against him. The reference to "Afghanistan being the heart of Asia" and “Asia is being transformed into the largest economic continent in the world. Without a stable Afghanistan, you can't have stable Asia" sends right signals to those powers that are undermining him and Pashtuns. He means the future is in Asia both in terms of economy and security and in alliance and integration with Asia instead of reliance on powers foreign to Asia.
                              “We are in the heart of Asia,” Ghani said, going into pitch mode hearkening back to his time at the World Bank, when he would build a case for providing aid to a struggling country. “Asia is being transformed into the largest economic continent in the world. Without a stable Afghanistan,” he said, you can’t have a stable Asia."
                              Last edited by Toramana; 05-19-2014, 12:01 AM.

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