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    Saudi Arabia’s military exercise was a goodbye wave to America

    Faisal Al Yafai

    May 5, 2014 Updated: May 5, 2014 19:01:00

    When one of the most powerful militaries in the Middle East holds the largest military exercise in its history, the region and allies would be wise to look beyond the explosions and manoeuvres at the political intent.

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    Last week’s “Abdullah Sword” military exercises in the north-east of Saudi Arabia brought together 130,000 troops, as well as military jets, helicopters and ships. With the notable exception of Qatar, all the GCC countries were there to observe the exercises, as well as the head of Pakistan’s army.

    On the surface, the exercises were timed to coincide with the ninth anniversary of the accession of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia. But military movements of this order send messages. But to whom?

    The obvious answer is Iran, Saudi’s great regional rival, or one of the three states that the Saudis are most concerned about – Syria, Iraq or Yemen. And it will not have escaped Tehran’s notice that the CSS-2 ballistic missiles that Riyadh paraded for the first time last week can easily reach any part of Iran.

    Certainly, a message of strength was being telegraphed to the region. But there was also another one, over the heads of the region, to the United States: if you leave, the region can defend itself.

    It sometimes appears to be an overstatement to suggest that the United States – which maintains bases in several regional countries – is planning to leave. But leaving does not necessarily entail a complete withdrawal.

    Under the Obama presidency, America has departed the Gulf in two ways; the first through disengagement, with the focus of the US president rarely on the detail of the problems of the region.

    And secondly through insufficient attention to the relationships that have long formed the diplomatic backbone of the region. By seeking a peace deal with Iran – Saudi Arabian critics would say at any price – the US has angered its traditional allies in the Gulf, who have invested time and effort in the alliance.

    In some respects, the disengagement has been a long time coming, but Mr Obama’s policy and personality have accelerated it.

    The curse of being a superpower is that policies ripple far beyond the initial problem. When Obama backed down from enforcing his “red lines” over Syria, both allies and enemies took note.

    If that was a one-off, the explanation that Syria was complex – and Iraq too recent – for the US to be effective could stand.

    But there have been other developments elsewhere in the world, which, taken together, make the Gulf states wonder if the United States can still be counted on to react to any military provocation – and therefore, by extension, whether the US deterrent still exists.

    In November, China established an air defence identification zone over parts of the East China Sea. In particular, the zone covered the Japanese-controlled Senkaku islands, which China also claims. Japan was incensed and, in response, the US sent two military planes through the zone. But the zone has remained in place and the US has gone quiet over it.

    Couple that with events in Ukraine, where, despite being a signatory to a post-Soviet treaty that guaranteed Ukraine’s territorial integrity in return for the state giving up its nuclear weapons, the US did not act forcefully to stop Russia annexing Crimea.

    In each case, there have been different motivations and political considerations. But taken together, these events, and others, have contributed to an atmosphere of suspicion that, if push came to shove, the US would walk away.

    Under Mr Obama, the superpower does not appear to have much interest in defending the status quo. The post-Soviet settlement immensely benefits the US, but George W Bush undid much of that by fighting an illegal war in Iraq. Other states became less likely to heed international law.

    Yet Mr Obama’s reticence has undermined the global order just as surely as Mr Bush’s unnecessary war in Iraq did. Not to the same extent, but, gradually, piece by piece, it is being undermined.

    That is what Abdullah Sword was about, establishing a credible alternative deterrent. In time, the signals are that Saudi Arabia and the Gulf seeks something even larger, an alliance stretching from Egypt to Pakistan. The recent Saudi, UAE and Egyptian military exercises fit into this trajectory.

    With both Iraq and Yemen fragile and bordering Saudi, the kingdom is nervous of what might be next. Similarly with Syria, where, with a second refugee camp being built in Jordan and with the Assad regime looking like exerting control again, that would leave hundreds of thousands of refugees permanently in Jordan, which is already vulnerable. That too represents a big risk for the kingdom.

    Taken together, Saudi Arabia wants to establish itself publicly as capable of withstanding any threat. The Arab Spring has pushed Saudi from its traditional comfort zone of operating behind the scenes into more of a leadership role for the region. By staging such a forceful display with Abdullah Sword, the kingdom is showing the region that it has the allies and the weapons to defend itself. Gradually, the Gulf is preparing for the day America’s warships sail away.



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  • #2
    I wouldn't be surprised if these Saudis outsourced their soldiers too, probably south Asians with passports held hostage flying those planes and driving those vehicles.
    There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

    Sayyid Qutb

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    • #3
      After decades of having mutual interests with the US, now the Saudi's are trying to wave goodbye, and is attempting to align with China.

      So China was third choice after Saudis tried to woo Russia. I dont think China gains anything from increased relations with Saudi- Saudi already sells oil, but China gets oil from many other nations.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Shah-i-Kot View Post
        After decades of having mutual interests with the US, now the Saudi's are trying to wave goodbye, and is attempting to align with China.

        So China was third choice after Saudis tried to woo Russia. I dont think China gains anything from increased relations with Saudi- Saudi already sells oil, but China gets oil from many other nations.
        The Saudi-American relationship is an unbreakable bond between 2 like minded nations in their foreign policy. The only troubles have been that the Saudis wanted more American support for the anti Syrian opposition.

        The recent drama never amounted to anything and the intel minister who was talking big was recently fired.

        They have also made historically large military arms purchases from the US and they need the US to train them, maintain and replace parts of these weapons.

        In the eyes of the Saudis there is pretty much no reason at all to ditch the US for anyone else. Russia is aligned with their enemies and China is not politically invested in the region and both are second rate powers compared to the US. Even with second rate weaponry from America (Israel gets the good stuff), it is still leagues above anything that China or even Russia could offer them.

        Not to mention that the Saudis have been tied to the hip with the west and America in particular since its birth as a nation, there is absolutely no reason for them to switch teams to practical strangers who can't offer them half of what America does. Even during the oil crisis, America and Saudis were allies.
        There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

        Sayyid Qutb

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        • #5
          Saudi Arabia has a powerful military? LOL.
          "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

          -Old Pashtun proverb




          "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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          • #6
            The servant and his master. It must have been a thrill for him to sit on the same level as an Arab.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
              Saudi Arabia has a powerful military? LOL.
              Indeed,Infact their air force is among the top 5 in the world beating even British and French air force's.

              Navy has one of the most advance ships and they are suppose to buy more than 20subs in the close future

              Army is trained by the best in the world and in the muslim world has only training second to turkey and far better than Pakistan or iran
              "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                Indeed,Infact their air force is among the top 5 in the world beating even British and French air force's.

                Navy has one of the most advance ships and they are suppose to buy more than 20subs in the close future

                Army is trained by the best in the world and in the muslim world has only training second to turkey and far better than Pakistan or iran
                arab countries in general have weak armies other then Iraq. They couldn't even take on a small israel. Also this is just a military routine exercise, nothing too special as i even saw this on some arab channel.
                Last edited by Kushan Prince; 05-07-2014, 02:00 PM.
                "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                -Old Pashtun proverb




                "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                  Indeed,Infact their air force is among the top 5 in the world beating even British and French air force's.

                  Navy has one of the most advance ships and they are suppose to buy more than 20subs in the close future

                  Army is trained by the best in the world and in the muslim world has only training second to turkey and far better than Pakistan or iran
                  Like weaklings. Arabs are no warriors, never would be. Only rapist, criminal baboons and slave masters who can slaughter and attack the poor peasants. If Saudi pigs where so powerful, they would not piss themselves when Iran is becoming the most powerful geopolitical force in the area. all Porkis leaders and Saudis filths will work with NATO, Israel against Brics + Iran in the future. Because they know people doesn't forget history so easy.

                  A fighter fights with his heart first and mostly. Majority of Pashtuns are born with this naturally, saudi pigs are not. Even Kurds with their strong women fights against mongol-turk hordes and are becoming powerful in the minor Asian area. I see some boost for Iranian family lineage, hopefully the luck will boost up pure Pashtuns as well, so we can start building up Pashtun soil for future generations.
                  To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Loy Afghanistan View Post
                    Like weaklings. Arabs are no warriors, never would be. Only rapist, criminal baboons and slave masters who can slaughter and attack the poor peasants. If Saudi pigs where so powerful, they would not piss themselves when Iran is becoming the most powerful geopolitical force in the area. all Porkis leaders and Saudis filths will work with NATO, Israel against Brics + Iran in the future. Because they know people doesn't forget history so easy.

                    A fighter fights with his heart first and mostly. Majority of Pashtuns are born with this naturally, saudi pigs are not. Even Kurds with their strong women fights against mongol-turk hordes and are becoming powerful in the minor Asian area. I see some boost for Iranian family lineage, hopefully the luck will boost up pure Pashtuns as well, so we can start building up Pashtun soil for future generations.

                    Even if your shia(I have noticed so) it doesnt mean you should blindly support Iran.

                    Can you tell me a single persian that has ruled over Arab's?(Except iraq who again are not true arab's),Meanwhile i can name many including Khalid Bin Waleed (RA) that has made the persian muslims under the power of sword otherwise the likes of you would still be busy worshipping zoraster.

                    Arab's has left iran way too behind that too because of visionless iranian leaders.Even Pakistan without Oil/Gas will surpass Iran by GDP in 2017-18 max.
                    "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                      arab countries in general have weak armies other then Iraq. They couldn't even take on a small israel. Also this i just military routine exercise, nothing to special as i even saw in on some arab channel.
                      iraq?

                      Anyway you need to look into KSA military again.they are only 2nd to turkey and with the best they are upgrading their military,I am sure they will even beat Turkey within a decade
                      "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                        Even if your shia(I have noticed so) it doesnt mean you should blindly support Iran.

                        Can you tell me a single persian that has ruled over Arab's?(Except iraq who again are not true arab's),Meanwhile i can name many including Khalid Bin Waleed (RA) that has made the persian muslims under the power of sword otherwise the likes of you would still be busy worshipping zoraster.

                        Arab's has left iran way too behind that too because of visionless iranian leaders.Even Pakistan without Oil/Gas will surpass Iran by GDP in 2017-18 max.
                        Again this with religion judgement type bull****, shia, sunni bla bla! Stop MAKE SIN like your ****ing PAKI-ARABIC DIRTY FILTHY MULLAHS, who say this one is Muslim and this one is not. ONLY ALLAH CAN JUDGE the FAITH of HUMANS, no single human on earth can do that!! Stop dividing MUSLIMS you small idiotic product of the English ******* culture.

                        You little gay who get orgasm feeling other men should check yourself in mirror before talking about Muslims in Iran, Pashtunistan, Tajikistan and other places! I talk about RACE right now. Our brothers from the provinces of Persia, Parthia, Carmania, Gedrosia, and Pashtuns in Ariana were 1 billion times better than arabs, panj baboons, and other race even before ISLAM. We were first on earth who where monolithic, we didn't have slaves, we had most advanced society on earth and Pashtuns where the core centre of it, WITH books that proofs it, Avesta and Sanskrit. Pashtuns and our brothers like Balochs, Kurds, Tajiks, Iranians, and other minorities who share the same language family line and mostly same culture should be united against hordes of barbarian genocide Anglo-Judeos, slave coward people pakis, Genghish khans grand childrens, mongol-turks, arabs and other enemies of our children, families and the future of our race. When we where the first ones on earth to worship one GOD, arabs and your paki panj baboonians "ancestors" worshipped, stones, the moon and 10 000 bull**** gods with the rest of savages around the world.

                        Like many says Arab where the most disgusting people and still majority are and that Prophet Muhammed (SAW) came and started preaching about Islam so the most savage and barbarian people could become civliziled, Just lika Moses want to civilized the other semitic *******s Jews. Still that didn't help them anything, look your beloved salafist fake Muslims in Syria, eating human hearts and getting paid in dollar to kill their fellow muslims when Israel is genocide Muslims in Palestine next door.

                        And new things like SEX JIHAD etc directly supported by your leaders in SA, Qatar, and Porkistan.

                        You will burn very well, I promise you this.

                        To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Loy Afghanistan View Post
                          Again this with religion judgement type bull****, shia, sunni bla bla! Stop MAKE SIN like your ****ing PAKI-ARABIC DIRTY FILTHY MULLAHS, who say this one is Muslim and this one is not. ONLY ALLAH CAN JUDGE the FAITH of HUMANS, no single human on earth can do that!! Stop dividing MUSLIMS you small idiotic product of the English ******* culture.

                          You little gay who get orgasm feeling other men should check yourself in mirror before talking about Muslims in Iran, Pashtunistan, Tajikistan and other places! I talk about RACE right now. Our brothers from the provinces of Persia, Parthia, Carmania, Gedrosia, and Pashtuns in Ariana were 1 billion times better than arabs, panj baboons, and other race even before ISLAM. We were first on earth who where monolithic, we didn't have slaves, we had most advanced society on earth and Pashtuns where the core centre of it, WITH books that proofs it, Avesta and Sanskrit. Pashtuns and our brothers like Balochs, Kurds, Tajiks, Iranians, and other minorities who share the same language family line and mostly same culture should be united against hordes of barbarian genocide Anglo-Judeos, slave coward people pakis, Genghish khans grand childrens, mongol-turks, arabs and other enemies of our children, families and the future of our race. When we where the first ones on earth to worship one GOD, arabs and your paki panj baboonians "ancestors" worshipped, stones, the moon and 10 000 bull**** gods with the rest of savages around the world.

                          Like many says Arab where the most disgusting people and still majority are and that Prophet Muhammed (SAW) came and started preaching about Islam so the most savage and barbarian people could become civliziled, Just lika Moses want to civilized the other semitic *******s Jews. Still that didn't help them anything, look your beloved salafist fake Muslims in Syria, eating human hearts and getting paid in dollar to kill their fellow muslims when Israel is genocide Muslims in Palestine next door.

                          And new things like SEX JIHAD etc directly supported by your leaders in SA, Qatar, and Porkistan.

                          You will burn very well, I promise you this.

                          Well your Post has just confirmed what i wanted to confirm.anyway you should be proud of what your and your belief instead of hiding it.

                          And No,We have Good relations with iran.But one can not escape from the reality.we just recently had naval drills.

                          Beside this,I mus admit that i have not seen a uselss person as you in my life.Anyway are you even a human?because i doubt
                          "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                            Well your Post has just confirmed what i wanted to confirm.anyway you should be proud of what your and your belief instead of hiding it.

                            And No,We have Good relations with iran.But one can not escape from the reality.we just recently had naval drills.

                            Beside this,I mus admit that i have not seen a uselss person as you in my life.Anyway are you even a human?because i doubt
                            My post confirms what I do right now, I can do more and will do anything for my Pashtun family race, because in the end, we all are meaningless, we are nothing without our offspring's, that is the meaning of life or my life at least.

                            My children and others future Pashtun generations will marry each other in the future, when I am gone from this earth. It is in my interest that all Pashtuns in the world unite and give the chance for all of our future generations to live and be born in the best possible, free, independent and pure Pashtun society we can prepare for the next generations.

                            When you get orgasm feeling towards other men and choice non Pashtun side. I enlighten my scattered Pashtun family around the world, and show them the truth about their ancestors, the power of education, the important of purifying and holding the Pashtun family lines intact, tradition, culture, the powerful meaning of unity and enough is enough of Pashtun usury as warriors and suicide bombers for other non Pashtun interest.

                            I want no more Pashtun blood to be split because of foreign influence over Pashtun lives.

                            But you a dirty little slimy creature , enjoys and calls Pashtuns in SWAT for terrorists and happy when a non Pashtun army bombed them and destroyed many Pashtun villages.

                            That is the different between me and you. I give you proof, about history, British plan, and yet you choice the non Pashtun side.

                            I would not punish if a poor Pashtun did bad things to me, because I know the circumstance he/she is being raised up to, she/he doesn't know the truth and right or are desperate to terrible acts to survive. But a individualize Pashtun with knowledge and education still choice and sell out his family line, he will get the harshness punishment I could think off.

                            You are directly in that category. Your work is directly to divide Pashtuns, sometimes I wonder even if you are a "pashtun" behind that computer.
                            To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Loy Afghanistan View Post
                              My post confirms what I do right now, I can do more and will do anything for my Pashtun family race, because in the end, we all are meaningless, we are nothing without our offspring's, that is the meaning of life or my life at least.

                              My children and others future Pashtun generations will marry each other in the future, when I am gone from this earth. It is in my interest that all Pashtuns in the world unite and give the chance for all of our future generations to live and be born in the best possible, free, independent and pure Pashtun society we can prepare for the next generations.

                              When you get orgasm feeling towards other men and choice non Pashtun side. I enlighten my scattered Pashtun family around the world, and show them the truth about their ancestors, the power of education, the important of purifying and holding the Pashtun family lines intact, tradition, culture, the powerful meaning of unity and enough is enough of Pashtun usury as warriors and suicide bombers for other non Pashtun interest.

                              I want no more Pashtun blood to be split because of foreign influence over Pashtun lives.

                              But you a dirty little slimy creature , enjoys and calls Pashtuns in SWAT for terrorists and happy when a non Pashtun army bombed them and destroyed many Pashtun villages.

                              That is the different between me and you. I give you proof, about history, British plan, and yet you choice the non Pashtun side.

                              I would not punish if a poor Pashtun did bad things to me, because I know the circumstance he/she is being raised up to, she/he doesn't know the truth and right or are desperate to terrible acts to survive. But a individualize Pashtun with knowledge and education still choice and sell out his family line, he will get the harshness punishment I could think off.

                              You are directly in that category. Your work is directly to divide Pashtuns, sometimes I wonder even if you are a "pashtun" behind that computer.
                              For the above,you need to be present among the pashtuns to motivate them and enlighten them,But the Ground reality is that you live in the west under asylum visa to get free benifits and living on the hardworking western's paid taxes.

                              The Differnece between you and me is that i have already understood the Ground realities and have accepted them aswell instead of living in a dream world living thousand of miles away.
                              "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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