Why do Afghans hate Pakistani people

[mayan]

I accidently stumbled on an Afghani site then entered the chat room thinking it would be interesting to talk with some of our "brothers" from across the border.When they realised that i was of Pakistani origin all kinds of abuse was thrown my way together with insults to Pakistani cities,people and culture.Can anyone tell me why the Afghani's are so bitter towards us or are they just completely uncivilised people who no nothing but war and hatred??.Is Pakistan to blame for there suffering since they were invaded??.If they hate us so much then they should get out of Pak and return to the country of landmines.I'd be interested to hear experiences of other people.

[Kushan Prince]

Wrora you have to understand that Pakistan has spilled the blood of thousands of innocent pashtuns who were mostly women and kids. It has held pashtuns captive and as slaves to the system minus the chains and they indoctrinate you're mind with useless propaganda to love Pakistan. The schooling system is practically controlled by the government. Just think about it, your'e forefathers who fought for their lives to protect Afghanistan must be rolling in their graves that you support a fake british created state.

As tor khan said, we need to strive for unity, pakistan will not allow this to happen.

[Bengal_Tiger]

Afghans hate Pakistanis far more than mild-mannered Bengalis do (many of whom support the Pakistani cricket team against India. I would be considered too militant by most Bengalis).

However Pakistanis hate "inferior" Bengalis far more than they hate Afghans.

[HalloIsBack]

as i came to pf i was insulted even by mod
and admin did nothing!


question to pashtuns on pf if you make a list with countries you hate most
what will be the order?
you have to put in order: russia, iran, usa, pakistan and saudi

[Pakwatan]

Afghans hate Pakistanis because their nation is in shambles. They need someone to blame.

Ask a hater Afghan these questions:

1.Did Pakistan invite soviets to your country?

2. Did Pakistan help you?

3. Did Pakistan treat Afghan refugees badly?

After receiving twisted answers from Afghans, you will realize why we call them namak haram.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Why does it matter whether they hate us or not?

Infact they hate each other in their own country more,than they hate us.

[Daaniyaal]

maybe because Pakistan played a large part in the destruction of Afghanistan, and because of Pakistani people calling it the "country of land mines". Most people in Pakistan don't operate on national identities, a person is more likely to say za Pakhtun yam before they say za Pakistani yam. The collective Pakistani identity was created by the British, just like the collective Afghan identity, the collective Indian identity; and so on and so forth for all colonized people. As for telling the refugees to get out of Pakistan, most of them don't have computer access so I don't think you should be telling them to get out of Pakistan seeing as you have made a sweeping statement about an entire people from your experience from entering a chat room. You came about this thought because of fallacious reasoning. Please read to following wikipedia article so you avoid making similar statements in the future.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization

Kind regards.


Also, "Afghani" is a currency, "Afghan" is how the people of Afghanistan are referred to.

[Bost Bastan News]

Bcause Pakistan is an evil country committed many atrocities in Afghanistan, Kashmir, Bengal, India, Syria, Chechenia, China. Pakistan is even listed by the CIA as a regional terrorist net-work state or something like this.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Wrora you have to understand that Pakistan has spilled the blood of thousands of innocent pashtuns who were mostly women and kids. It has held pashtuns captive and as slaves to the system minus the chains and they indoctrinate you're mind with useless propaganda to love Pakistan. The schooling system is practically controlled by the government. Just think about it, your'e forefathers who fought for their lives to protect Afghanistan must be rolling in their graves that you support a fake british created state.

As tor khan said, we need to strive for unity, pakistan will not allow this to happen.

Wrora gula,These are mere excuses.I would recommanded you to watch Professor S akbar debates,

Where he said we are believed that people in Afghanistan hate us because of ISI support for mujahideen in Afghanistan.But in reality Afghanistan was the only country in the region to not recognize Pakistan after its formation.He explained how has Afghanistan attacked Pakistan in the 50's on small border skirmishes and the invasion of bajaur later.

He further explain as to how Afghansitan didnt cared about the Pashtun parts of British india but when Pakistan was formed and was a weak state,Afghanistan started reclaiming the areas back.

Support of ISI for militants in Afghanistan is only a excuse.Infact Afghanistan wanted ISI to support the mujahideen

[Bengal_Tiger]

maybe because Pakistan played a large part in the destruction of Afghanistan, and because of Pakistani people calling it the "country of land mines". Most people in Pakistan don't operate on national identities, a person is more likely to say za Pakhtun yam before they say za Pakistani yam. The collective Pakistani identity was created by the British, just like the collective Afghan identity, the collective Indian identity; and so on and so forth for all colonized people. As for telling the refugees to get out of Pakistan, most of them don't have computer access so I don't think you should be telling them to get out of Pakistan seeing as you have made a sweeping statement about an entire people from your experience from entering a chat room. You came about this thought because of fallacious reasoning. Please read to following wikipedia article so you avoid making similar statements in the future.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization

Kind regards.


Also, "Afghani" is a currency, "Afghan" is how the people of Afghanistan are referred to.

I spoke to a Pakistani from Karachi a few years back and he told me in Karachi no one calls themselves "Pakistanis". It is a heavily polarized city. Everyone calls themselves a "Balochi" or "Mohajir" or "Pashtun" etc.

They often live in their own neighbourhoods, marry from each other etc.

I think Afghanistan has far more inter-marriage than Pakistan and from my experience of Afghans in real life they are committed to a united Afghanistan and the ethnic divisions, though existent, are not as great as in Pakistan.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Bcause Pakistan is an evil country committed many atrocities in Afghanistan, Kashmir, Bengal, India, Syria, Chechenia, China. Pakistan is even listed by the CIA as a regional terrorist net-work state or something like this.

please support this with a credible source

Infact after the recent publication of a book by a British origin women,In which she claimed that Pakistan knew about OBL.Couple of days later a extract from american govt refuted the claim saying that washington doesnt acknowledge any support of Pakistan establishment or Govt in protecting OBL.

Well CIA and ISI cannot live without each other because both of the agencies has very similar goal's

[Bost Bastan News]

please support this with a credible source

Infact after the recent publication of a book by a British origin women,In which she claimed that Pakistan knew about OBL.Couple of days later a extract from american govt refuted the claim saying that washington doesnt acknowledge any support of Pakistan establishment or Govt in protecting OBL.

Well CIA and ISI cannot live without each other because both of the agencies has very similar goal's

http://www.terrorism-research.com/state/countries.php http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakista...ored_terrorism http://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm http://world.time.com/2011/10/03/sho...-of-terrorism/

[Daaniyaal]

I spoke to a Pakistani from Karachi a few years back and he told me in Karachi no one calls themselves "Pakistanis". It is a heavily polarized city. Everyone calls themselves a "Balochi" or "Mohajir" or "Pashtun" etc.

They often live in their own neighbourhoods, marry from each other etc.

I think Afghanistan has far more inter-marriage than Pakistan and from my experience of Afghans in real life they are committed to a united Afghanistan and the ethnic divisions, though existent, are not as great as in Pakistan.

I live in Karachi and I do notice this a lot. I'm quite the oddity because my family is incredibly mixed. Everything from Polish to British to Uzbek to Pashtun to Punjabi to Mohajir to Bengali.

Pakistan is heavily set back in any real intellectual development because more emphasis is placed on the income opportunities of a field rather than intellectual worth. A person is far more likely to become an engineer for the sake of getting a job rather than being a scientist for the sake of research. +No one goes into the social sciences or humanities/arts. In a society where people are bleaching their skin to be "fair", it's not surprising that tribal mentally reigns supreme.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

http://www.terrorism-research.com/state/countries.php http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakista...ored_terrorism http://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm http://world.time.com/2011/10/03/sho...-of-terrorism/

Please re read your own post,You said CIA has recognized Pakistan as a terrorist state

*First Link:It merely mention militant groups operating in Pakistan,I don't know why you posted this when i have not even asked for this.We do know We have many terrorist groups in Pakistan of which Pakistan has killed 28-29thousand alone compared to 81thousand in Afghanistan by 42 countries

*2nd Link:It again doesnt mention CIA but rather Afghanistan and India.Against both of them Pakistan has proof of them supporting Terrorism in Pakistan.Afghanistan national army was caught by NATO itself and than later exposed of hiding latif mehsud and is known to be giving safe stay to Fazlullah in kunar for years.

*3rd link: can you tell me why you even posted this?have you yourself opened this link first?


I am talking about any extract directly from USA govt or CIA as you previously claimed.Not individual claims.Please re read your comment again.Otherwise don't waste yours and mine though you should not spread wrong propaganda uselss info next time

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Within Pakistan,people indeed doesnt say we are Pakistanis but rather we are punjabi,pashtuns,Sindhis,saraki and baloch etc.

because Pakistan is only a nationality.

Though outside Pakistan irrespective of their ethnicity,Everyone says that he's a Pakistan and when further asked than might tell him about ethnicity.In Arab countries where Pakistani are more and the local does know about the ethnicity.Than Pakistanis does tell them whether they are punjabi,pashtun,sindhi etc