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  • #16
    Bogus Tajikistan News

    You really are a pathetic individual. You pull things from your arse just like Al-Tajikistani. The more details you go in to the more degenerate your views become of Pashtuns as a whole and their politics. No wonder you have your head twisted and only a non - Pashtun would take an out of proportion and exaggerated view of the mythical Durrani-Ghilzai divide. So relax your hype and fantasising you clown. It is good that you have now revealed yourself to every one.

    Your views are highly fallacious and contradictory my friend.

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    • #17
      By Mirwais Harooni and Hamid Shalizi KABUL (Reuters) - The two leading candidates in the race to become Afghanistan's next president rallied supporters and urged election officials to come clean on fr...


      Afghan presidential hopefuls rally supporters ahead of run-off

      KABUL (Reuters) - The two leading candidates in the race to become Afghanistan's next president rallied supporters and urged election officials to come clean on fraud on Sunday as the country readied for an expected grueling run-off in June.

      Abdullah Abdullah and Ashraf Ghani, both ministers in the transition government after U.S.-led forces drove the Taliban from power in 2001, shared over three-quarters of the nearly 7 million votes cast, but neither clinched an absolute majority.

      If, as expected, the final results due next month show no outright winner, a second round will be held on June 7.

      After decades of war and foreign occupation, Afghanistan is being left to stand on its own feet this year with the political change-of-guard and the withdrawal of foreign combat troops by December 31.

      More than 12 years after U.S. troops invaded Afghanistan to capture al Qaeda militants blamed for the September 11 attacks on the United States, a potent Islamist insurgency is still the biggest problem confronting the government.

      With an eye on a run-off, the two frontrunners rallied their supporters on Sunday, applauding them for coming out in record numbers to vote. The turnout in the first round was 50 percent higher than the 2009 vote.

      "If round one was a new beginning then round two is the maturity of democracy and an opportunity to strengthen national unity," Ghani told a news conference. "We expect our supporters will have a widespread participation in the runoff."

      The voting process, which started on April 5 under the threat of violence from the Taliban, is the first democratic transition of power in the country's history.

      However, uncertainty over the outcome risks stalling crucial foreign aid and economic reform, and could foment ethnic tensions and leave a political vacuum in which the Taliban could gain ground.

      Washington's relationship with President Hamid Karzai has sharply deteriorated over the past year, exacerbated by his refusal to sign a bilateral security agreement permitting a small force to stay for counter-terrorism support and training after the December drawdown deadline.

      The two pro-Western candidates say they will sign the pact.

      FRAUD COMPLAINTS

      Abdullah, who cited fraud as the reason for quitting in 2009 before a scheduled run-off against Karzai, again disputed the result. Karzai was constitutionally barred from standing for a third term.

      "Our team's victory is very clear," said Abdullah, who finished top in the preliminary count with 44.9 percent.

      "If the problems were addressed on ballot shortages, the picture would have been different," he said, referring to hundreds of polling stations that ran out voting papers on the polling day.

      Ghani, who polled 31.5 percent in the preliminary count, also cried foul but said the outcome was clear.

      "The key thing is no one can claim that the first round has produced a victory," said the former finance minister and ex-World Bank economist.

      The Election Complaints Commission is scrutinizing votes from hundreds of polling stations. Even if Abdullah were to win all of the suspect votes under investigation he would still fall short of the 50 percent-plus-one needed to win outright. Final results are due on May 14.

      ETHNIC SPLIT

      Behind the scenes, the top contenders have already started lobbying to mop-up votes from the losing candidates.

      Abdullah, an ophthalmologist who also fought Soviet forces in the 1980s, has reached out to Zalmay Rassoul, a favorite of the ethnic Pashtun majority in the south of Afghanistan, who won 11.5 percent of the vote.

      Abdullah's base of support is in the ethnic Tajik community and, although he is half-Pashtun, he is best known for championing the causes and rights of Tajiks, Afghanistan's second-largest ethnic group.

      Rassoul's support is believed to have the backing of the powerful Karzai clan, who are also Pashtun. Both Ghani and Abdullah have promised an advisory role for the outgoing president.

      Another kingmaker could be Islamist politician Abdul Rassoul Sayyaf, who finished fourth with 7.1 percent. Sayyaf presents himself as a bridge between warring factions, and says peace can be reached with the Taliban if they renounce outside influence.

      As a means to swiftly move on with the political transition and to avoid the logistical and security concerns of another round, some observers have suggested it might be in the nation's best interests if Abdullah and Ghani struck a deal.

      But the bitter rivals ruled that out on Sunday.

      Taliban militants threatened to derail the first round with a violent onslaught, prompting the government to deploy some 400,000 troops for the vote. The security clampdown was largely effective.

      The second round poses an even bigger risk, with insurgents allowed even more freedom of movement due to the warmer weather.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
        Bogus Tajikistan News

        You really are a pathetic individual. You pull things from your arse just like Al-Tajikistani. The more details you go in to the more degenerate your views become of Pashtuns as a whole and their politics. No wonder you have your head twisted and only a non - Pashtun would take an out of proportion and exaggerated view of the mythical Durrani-Ghilzai divide. So relax your hype and fantasising you clown. It is good that you have now revealed yourself to every one.

        Your views are highly fallacious and contradictory my friend.
        This guy al-Afghani is maybe a joker and I don´t like his sarcasm as well but he isn´t important or an issue here. I have three question for you, bro. Question one: Why do you react always emotional without any reasons and insult your dicussion oppositions instead being cool and logical? Question two: You just need to be a bit logical about the current situation. Can you do that, brother? We all must leave our ''hoodness'' to be able to see reality also from other perspectives. Can you do that bro? Question three: Just wait and see what will happen If I am right can i visit you in your country? Can I ask you some private things about visa, refugee and some other things?

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        • #19
          Much of the world may see Abdullah Abdullah as a smooth-talking, well-dressed former foreign minister. But many in Afghanistan's fabled Panjshir Valley see him as an everyday man who they can relate to.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Al-Afghani View Post
            That will never happen. Pashtuns boycott elections because they prefer an Islamic Emirate headed by Amir al Mumineen Mullah Mohammad Omar. Voting is un-islamic.
            Yes your sarcasm is based on bitter reality.

            Till the time we do not recognize our pitfalls, we will never change for the better. We have to absorb some harsh realities.

            Do you have any Tajik/Uzbek/hazara/Turkmen/Baloch/Punjabi/Sindhi Taliban? NO. Who are more than 90% Taliban? Pashtuns.
            What Taliban say about elections and democracy? Haram.
            Yes all Pashtuns are not Taliban but almost all Taliban are Pashtuns.

            If all Pashtuns and Uzbeks vote for Ghani , then no no doubt he will win the runoff. There should be some Tajiks who should appreciate personality of Ghani and should also vote for him. After all he is an Afghan Pashtun not only Pashtun.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Badlun View Post
              Yes your sarcasm is based on bitter reality.

              Till the time we do not recognize our pitfalls, we will never change for the better. We have to absorb some harsh realities.

              Do you have any Tajik/Uzbek/hazara/Turkmen/Baloch/Punjabi/Sindhi Taliban? NO. Who are more than 90% Taliban? Pashtuns.
              What Taliban say about elections and democracy? Haram.
              Yes all Pashtuns are not Taliban but almost all Taliban are Pashtuns.

              If all Pashtuns and Uzbeks vote for Ghani , then no no doubt he will win the runoff. There should be some Tajiks who should appreciate personality of Ghani and should also vote for him. After all he is an Afghan Pashtun not only Pashtun.
              Actually he want us to insult by his sarcasm.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                That is interesting. So now Karzai has formidable leverage and can extort some space for himself. Don't you think to be perceived as a part of primarily anti-Pashtun alliance would deter him and will also hit at his political base in the south?
                Karzai has probably convinced Abdullah that without a role for the Karzai clan of elites, Abdullah will not be able to maintain support of the South. Abdullah must be aware of the difficulty of maintaining relative security as president with the South/East alienated. I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to compromise with Rasul/Karzai even if he knew he could win without them and on mostly minority votes anyways.

                The Karzai clan and his supporters are bound together by money and nepotism, they go where the money goes and not so much ethnic nationalist sentiment. At least that is my take on it.
                There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                Sayyid Qutb

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                • #23
                  Mr Rassoul, along with other relatively minor candidates, including perhaps an Islamist scholar, Abdul Rasul Sayyaf, who own 7.1% of the vote; and Gul Agha Sherzai, a former warlord who was once the governor of Kandahar province; are likely to support Dr Abdullah in a run-off. That would leave Mr Ghani adrift in the run-off. Election authorities have tentatively listed June 7th as the date for the next round of voting. There is little indication that the two front-runners could do a deal to avoid a run-off. Mr Abdullah has already said that he foresees Mr Ghani being “a loyal opposition”, once he is named the winner. As the complaints are adjudicated, some attention will now turn to Mr Ghani’s controversial running mate, Abdul Rashid Dostum. A revered and notorious Uzbek warlord, Mr Dostum is thought to have brought hundreds of thousands of votes to Mr Ghani’s side—but his history of changing sides throughout Afghanistan’s wartime history suggests that he might prefer jumping ship to losing in a second round. If he did, it would almost surely torpedo Mr Ghani’s ongoing campaign. http://www.economist.com/blogs/banya...ial-election-0

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