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  • #16
    Originally posted by Hallo View Post
    when did he lost his credibility?
    who made tis poll and who order this poll?

    17. Jahrgang | Nummer 1 | 6. Januar 2014

    Afghanistan vor den Präsidentschaftswahlen. Und vor islamistischer Welle?

    von Thomas Ruttig
    Hamed Karzais Zeit als Präsident Afghanistans geht zu Ende. Nachdem er mit Hilfe der USA 2001 das Taliban-Regime beerbte, drei Jahre als Übergangsstaatschef und zwei Legislaturperioden als gewählter Präsident (2004-2014) das Land anführte, darf der 56-jährige paschtunische Politiker aus Südafghanistan bei der Präsidentschaftswahl am 5. April 2014 nicht mehr antreten. Die definitive Liste der elf Bewerber für seine Nachfolge wurde Ende November veröffentlicht. Sie besteht nur aus Männern und alles Paschtunen. Der frühere Außenminister Abdullah allerdings ist seit Jahrzehnten als politischer Repräsentant der überwiegend nicht-paschtunischen Nordallianz bekannt; er steht seit einigen Jahren in politischer Opposition zu Präsident Karzai und seinem Lager. Lediglich einer der übrigen 17 zuvor von der Wahlkommission disqualifizierten Kandidaten, Daud Sultanzoy, ein ehemaliger präsidentenkritischer Abgeordneter und profilierter Oppositionspolitiker, hat es nach einem Einspruch wieder auf die Liste geschafft. Der einzige Demokrat hingegen und die einzige Frau unter den ursprünglichen 27 Bewerbern bleiben ausgeschlossen – disqualifiziert wegen angeblicher Formfehler in den Bewerbungsunterlagen. Was genau sie falsch gemacht haben ist nicht bekannt – die Wahlkommission glänzt nicht gerade durch Transparenz, auch nicht gegenüber den Kandidaten.
    Mit zwei Ausnahmen gehören sämtliche Kandidaten zum politischen Oligopol, das sich seit dem Sturz der Taliban 2001 herausgebildet hat.
    Dieses Oligopol lebt von den über fünfzig Milliarden US-Dollar, die als Wiederaufbauhilfe nach Afghanistan flossen und dort zu großen Teilen entweder legal oder durch die endemische Korruption privatisiert worden sind. Dazu gehören auch die Milliardenaufträge der NATO-geführten ISAF-Truppen (deren Mandat Ende 2014 ausläuft und die bereits reduziert werden). Diese wirtschaftlichen Interessen übergreifen auch die ethnischen und politischen Grenzen im Land. Am meisten haben jene profitiert, die verwandtschaftlich oder politisch den Machthabern nahestehen und so auch Zugang zu den Vertretern der Geberländer hatten.
    Acht der elf Präsidentschaftskandidaten waren entweder Minister, Provinzgouverneure oder präsidententreue Parlamentsabgeordnete unter Karzai. Es finden sich auch ein paar unheilige Paarungen, etwa wenn der frühere Finanzminister und Weltbankmitarbeiter Aschraf Ghani sich mit dem Warlord Abdul Raschid Dostum als Vizepräsidentenkandidat verbündet, dem zahlreiche Kriegsverbrechen vorgeworfen werden. Dostum hat sich öffentlich entschuldigt, blieb aber der einzige unter den Kandidaten, der das tat. Vor allem die früheren Mudschahedin, die gegen die sowjetische Besetzung (1979-89) gekämpft hatten, sehen keinen Anlass dazu.
    Zu den zwei Außenseitern gehört Helaluddin Helal von der Islamischen Partei Afghanistans, der erst vor wenigen Wochen den gegen Karzai kämpfenden bewaffneten Parteiflügel verlassen hat. Der andere ist Sardar (Prinz) Nadir Naim, ein im Westen ausgebildeter und lange Zeit dort lebender junger Spross der 1973 gestürzten Königsfamilie. Niemand kann sagen, ob es für Helal oder Naim zu mehr als einer Zählkandidatur reichen wird. In einer Interviewserie des führenden afghanischen TV-Kanals Tolo mit allen Kandidaten fiel Naim durch die Abwesenheit eines konkreten Programms auf. Helal äußerte dezidiert antiwestliche Positionen, die aber im Land durchaus populär geworden sind.
    Zwei Faktoren sorgen dafür, dass Afghanistan ein interessanter Wahlkampf bevorsteht. Erstens ist die Wahl für die in Afghanistan intervenierenden westlichen Staaten von höchster Bedeutung. Nach den systematischen Fälschungen von 2009 sollen möglichst saubere Wahlen und eine reibungslose Amtsübergabe den Eindruck von Erfolg wecken, so dass die Nato bis Ende 2014 ihre Kampftruppen aus Afghanistan abziehen und ihr Engagement herunterfahren kann.
    Allerdings will die US-Regierung auch danach Spezialkräfte und private militärische Dienstleister – deren Zahl schon jetzt mit 85.529 die der etwa 60.000 Soldaten übersteigt – zur Terrorismusbekämpfung in Afghanistan belassen. Nicht ohne Grund setzt Washington Karzai seit Monaten unter Druck, ein bilaterales Sicherheitsabkommen (BSA) zu unterzeichnen, das US-Soldaten Immunität gegenüber der afghanischen Gerichtsbarkeit garantieren soll. Auch Karzai weiß, dass die afghanischen Streitkräfte bis mindestens 2017 jährlich vier Milliarden US-Dollar an externer Finanzierung benötigen. Davon will Washington bisher mehr als die Hälfte übernehmen, aber ohne BSA wird der US-Kongress diese Mittel wohl kaum freigeben.
    Der zweite Faktor für einen spannenden Wahlkampf liegt in der Tatsache, dass dabei Karzais politisches Erbe auf dem Spiel steht. Er möchte als Friedensmacher in die Geschichtsbücher seines Landes eingehen und versucht deshalb, auf Biegen und Brechen noch vor der Wahl Gespräche mit den aufständischen Taliban in Gang zu bringen. In der Innenpolitik möchte er weiterhin ein gewichtiges Wort mitreden. Schon letztes Jahr meinte Karzai in einer Rede, er werde auch künftig mit am Kabinettstisch sitzen, zwar „nicht an dessen Kopfende, aber an der Seite“. Seit Monaten wird in Kabul, gleich neben dem Präsidentenpalast, ein neues, großzügiges Domizil für ihn gebaut.
    Offiziell will sich Karzai in der Frage seiner Nachfolge neutral verhalten. Aber zahlreiche seiner Treffen, insbesondere während der Registrierungsphase, sprechen eine andere Sprache. Im September stellte Karzai bei einem Treffen mit seinem russischen Amtskollegen Wladimir Putin den ihn begleitenden Außenminister Zalmai Rassul, einen Mediziner, als „möglichen zukünftigen Präsidenten“ vor. Hingegen distanzierte er sich von der Kandidatur seines Bruders Qayyum. Dieser war besonders von Mahmud Karzai, dem Geschäftsmann unter den fünf überlebenden Brüdern und Halbbrüdern des Präsidenten, gepuscht worden. Nach seiner Beteiligung an anrüchigen Projekten genießt er allerdings weithin nicht den besten Ruf.
    Derzeit zählen der frühere Finanzminister Ashraf Ghani, der berüchtigte wahhabitische Warlord Abdul Rabb Rassul Sayyaf sowie der jetzige Außenminister Zalmay Rassul zu den Favoriten.
    Grundsätzliche Politikänderungen sind von keinem der Kandidaten zu erwarten. Mit dem Sinken des westlichen Interesses an Afghanistan wird auch der Druck auf Menschen- und insbesondere Frauenrechte zunehmen. Dafür sprechen jüngste Vorstöße islamistischer Politiker, international anerkannte und von Afghanistan verfassungsrechtlich verankerte Normen zu untergraben. So sieht eine Gesetzesänderung im Strafrecht vor, dass Familienangehörige nicht gegeneinander aussagen dürfen, was die Strafverfolgung häuslicher Gewalt beinahe unmöglich macht. Schließlich rief ein islamistischer Abgeordneter zum „Dschihad“ gegen „unislamische“ Medien auf. Journalistenverbände beklagen bereits eine Zunahme gewaltsamer Übergriffe, davon viele ausgehend von staatlichen Stellen.


    http://das-blaettchen.de/2014/01/afg...lle-27815.html


    use translator


    at least 50% of afghans are behind ashraf ghani ahmadzai


    you just try to install a new puppet and with your faked polls try to make it clear that most afghans are thinking in this way.



    Ashraf Ghani Ahmadzai Is The Future President of Afghanistan!
    In which language the article is written? I used Google translator but couldn´t understand anything. Can you please summerize it? I searched for a figure with 50% and couldn´t find it in your article. From where your claim appears that Mr. Ghani has 50% of support?

    The poll we made was not for the public but for Arg itself. As I said Mr. Ahmadzai will have it very hard to gain only 35% of votes. He lacks of majority of Hazaras and of Farsiwan vice president, so of Tajik support and he lacks of Durani Pashtuns. Despite the claim Uzbeks do support Ghani around 40% of Uzbeks don´t, specially the Islamist ones. Dr. Zalmai Rassoul has Uzbek, Hazara, Farsiwan and Pashtun support. You see the difference? Even Dr. Abdullah has a very good position. He has the support of maybe 90% of all Farsiwans, majority of Hazaras, a sizable support of Pashtuns from Arg and southern Afghanistan. Even Balochis, Nuristani and Pashai people support him. Many of Mr. Ashraf Ghani´s election worker teams and district elders (53 of 132) changed sides to us or to Dr. Abdullah. You can count that having 500 000 lesser votes from the people means having around 10% lesser votes in the result.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
      From serena hotel attack
      That was denied by the Taliban, try again.
      Last edited by khushal; 03-31-2014, 09:04 AM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Khostai View Post
        Lol yeah right, he gaind more support than ever. His wife being a non muslim, is positive for me and all other educated Afghans. Becuase we know that he will never bring some dum and backward laws just to please the mujhahids for supporting him, like what the beghairat Karzai did.
        brother, it doesn´t really matter what you think in the west. What matters is what people are thinking here in Afghanistan. People in the west due of education and a better life have another opinion than what people have here in Afghanistan. You call our Her Mayesty Mr. Hamid Karzai a 'bighairat'' (although he is our country´s president) yet you forget that Mr. Ghani made a mass murderer and mass raper of Pashtuns to his vice president. You also forget that Mr. Ghani has close western friends working for Brits and other colonalist powers. He also wants to free by you so hated Taliban from all prisons. In Gardiz and in Kandahar he just said he will release all Taliban. Yes, we also released ''Taliban fighters'' but surely not hardcore ones and we did it for the sake of peace and reconciliation but Ghani wants all Taliban to be released and in many cases it was wrong and it will also be wrong when Mr. Ghani does it. How can your candidate Mr. Ghani be credible when he sided himself with medial-known killers, fascists, pro-Taliban (Pakistan) elements, American agents and others? You should know names like Yoon, Khalilzad, Jalali, Taqat, Dostum ... Do you know that Ghani paid all those people in his rallies to come and show support to him? Have you seen on TV what people said in Gardiz why they came to see him?



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        Last edited by Bost Bastan News; 03-31-2014, 09:06 AM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by khushal View Post
          And since when is shariah Law backward?

          I tought you loved shariah really bad. Now you claim it is backward?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Bost Bastan News View Post
            brother, it doesn´t really matter what you think in the west. What matters is what people are thinking here in Afghanistan. People in the west due of education and a better life have another opinion than what people have here in Afghanistan. You call our Her Mayesty Mr. Hamid Karzai a 'bighairat'' (although he is our country´s president) yet you forget that Mr. Ghani made a mass murderer and mass raper of Pashtuns to his vice president. You also forget that Mr. Ghani has close western friends working for Brits and other colonalist powers. He also wants to free by you so hated Taliban from all prisons. In Gardiz and in Kandahar he just said he will release all Taliban. Yes, we also released ''Taliban fighters'' but surely not hardcore ones and we did it for the sake of peace and reconciliation but Ghani wants all Taliban to be released and in many cases it was wrong and it will also be wrong when Mr. Ghani does it. How can your candidate Mr. Ghani be credible when he sided himself with medial-known killers, fascists, pro-Taliban (Pakistan) elements, American agents and others? You should know names like Yoon, Khalilzad, Jalali, Taqat, Dostum ... Do you know that Ghani paid all those people in his rallies to come and show support to him? Have you seen on TV what people said in Gardiz why they came to see him?



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            This is one of the reason why I support him. Your degenerate fascist culture of bacha bazi is coming to an end thats why you are so scared.
            But he will win. I am 100% sure about this. Its just a few days left. You will see.

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            • #21
              it's too early to root for anyone to win. when it comes to afghan politics, everyone is equally useless unless they prove themselves otherwise. too much fairy dust being blown in the air right before elections..
              a few years ago someone brought up this matter in here and i don't know which one of you it was... what do we care if someone is married to a white woman, has a wife or not. what we should worry about is their ability to run the country properly. their personal lives are their own business.

              "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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              • #22
                Originally posted by Bost Bastan News View Post
                In which language the article is written? I used Google translator but couldn´t understand anything. Can you please summerize it? I searched for a figure with 50% and couldn´t find it in your article. From where your claim appears that Mr. Ghani has 50% of support?

                The poll we made was not for the public but for Arg itself. As I said Mr. Ahmadzai will have it very hard to gain only 35% of votes. He lacks of majority of Hazaras and of Farsiwan vice president, so of Tajik support and he lacks of Durani Pashtuns. Despite the claim Uzbeks do support Ghani around 40% of Uzbeks don´t, specially the Islamist ones. Dr. Zalmai Rassoul has Uzbek, Hazara, Farsiwan and Pashtun support. You see the difference? Even Dr. Abdullah has a very good position. He has the support of maybe 90% of all Farsiwans, majority of Hazaras, a sizable support of Pashtuns from Arg and southern Afghanistan. Even Balochis, Nuristani and Pashai people support him. Many of Mr. Ashraf Ghani´s election worker teams and district elders (53 of 132) changed sides to us or to Dr. Abdullah. You can count that having 500 000 lesser votes from the people means having around 10% lesser votes in the result.
                the article was written in german. the important part i emphasized in red.
                from where do you claim zalmai rassoul will be the next president?

                exactly you made the poll for your aims
                what about an independent poll.
                you can believe to an poll as long as it was made by you.
                abdullah is a ****ing warlord like dostum
                so why are you for abdullah and agaisnt dostum?
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Bost Bastan News View Post
                  brother, it doesn´t really matter what you think in the west. What matters is what people are thinking here in Afghanistan. People in the west due of education and a better life have another opinion than what people have here in Afghanistan. You call our Her Mayesty Mr. Hamid Karzai a 'bighairat'' (although he is our country´s president) yet you forget that Mr. Ghani made a mass murderer and mass raper of Pashtuns to his vice president. You also forget that Mr. Ghani has close western friends working for Brits and other colonalist powers. He also wants to free by you so hated Taliban from all prisons. In Gardiz and in Kandahar he just said he will release all Taliban. Yes, we also released ''Taliban fighters'' but surely not hardcore ones and we did it for the sake of peace and reconciliation but Ghani wants all Taliban to be released and in many cases it was wrong and it will also be wrong when Mr. Ghani does it. How can your candidate Mr. Ghani be credible when he sided himself with medial-known killers, fascists, pro-Taliban (Pakistan) elements, American agents and others? You should know names like Yoon, Khalilzad, Jalali, Taqat, Dostum ... Do you know that Ghani paid all those people in his rallies to come and show support to him? Have you seen on TV what people said in Gardiz why they came to see him?



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                  or matter what you want to make them to think
                  you are for a mass murder abdullah. why this beghairat double standard?
                  kharzai is usa puppet which also supported the taliban.

                  seriously do you read what you copy and paste?

                  who is this beghairat guy? this is how afghan looks like who sell their country to the foreigners? he has got very below level to speak about his reval ghani. doesn't he have any arguments? such kind of level i saw only from islamist on facebook. well you both have got the same daddy.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Hallo View Post
                    the article was written in german. the important part i emphasized in red.
                    from where do you claim zalmai rassoul will be the next president?

                    exactly you made the poll for your aims
                    what about an independent poll.
                    you can believe to an poll as long as it was made by you.
                    abdullah is a ****ing warlord like dostum
                    so why are you for abdullah and agaisnt dostum?
                    I am against Dr. Abdullah and Dostum but I also am against Zalmai Rasoul, our team´s man. He can speak Pashtu but not good. He can speak Dari but according to my darispeaking friends he can´t speak it good. He is also weak and very naive. Actually like a sheep. I am not even allowed to vote for ZR or AA or AD. Where I have ever supported AA???? CAN YOU PLEASE SHOW ME ONE SINGLE POST? If I was allowed to support anyone I would vote either for Gul Agha Sherzai or Dr. Bashardost. Both persons seem to have good hearts. So you are from Germany?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Bost Bastan News View Post
                      I am against Dr. Abdullah and Dostum but I also am against Zalmai Rasoul, our team´s man. He can speak Pashtu but not good. He can speak Dari but according to my darispeaking friends he can´t speak it good. He is also weak and very naive. Actually like a sheep. I am not even allowed to vote for ZR or AA or AD. Where I have ever supported AA???? CAN YOU PLEASE SHOW ME ONE SINGLE POST? If I was allowed to support anyone I would vote either for Gul Agha Sherzai or Dr. Bashardost. Both persons seem to have good hearts. So you are from Germany?
                      why do you support zalmai rassoul? you call him as your majesty o.O what is your aim on pf?
                      so which language speaks zalmai rassoul perfect?

                      Originally posted by Bost Bastan News View Post
                      In which language the article is written? I used Google translator but couldn´t understand anything. Can you please summerize it? I searched for a figure with 50% and couldn´t find it in your article. From where your claim appears that Mr. Ghani has 50% of support?

                      The poll we made was not for the public but for Arg itself. As I said Mr. Ahmadzai will have it very hard to gain only 35% of votes. He lacks of majority of Hazaras and of Farsiwan vice president, so of Tajik support and he lacks of Durani Pashtuns. Despite the claim Uzbeks do support Ghani around 40% of Uzbeks don´t, specially the Islamist ones. Dr. Zalmai Rassoul has Uzbek, Hazara, Farsiwan and Pashtun support. You see the difference? Even Dr. Abdullah has a very good position. He has the support of maybe 90% of all Farsiwans, majority of Hazaras, a sizable support of Pashtuns from Arg and southern Afghanistan. Even Balochis, Nuristani and Pashai people support him. Many of Mr. Ashraf Ghani´s election worker teams and district elders (53 of 132) changed sides to us or to Dr. Abdullah. You can count that having 500 000 lesser votes from the people means having around 10% lesser votes in the result.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Hallo View Post
                        why do you support zalmai rassoul? you call him as your majesty o.O what is your aim on pf?
                        so which language speaks zalmai rassoul perfect?



                        i'm a jew
                        Are you blind? I wrote I support no one!

                        I am against Dr. Abdullah and Dostum but I also am against Zalmai Rasoul,
                        Mr. Zalmai Rasul can´t speak any language good as he should do. I will never call ZR as ''Mayesty''.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Bost Bastan News View Post
                          Are you blind? I wrote I support no one!



                          Mr. Zalmai Rasul can´t speak any language good as he should do. I will never call ZR as ''Mayesty''.
                          you have a special agenda on pf
                          on my wall you call him your next boss

                          why do you call kharzai as your majesty?
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Hallo View Post
                            you have a special agenda on pf
                            on my wall you call him your next boss

                            why do you call kharzai as your majesty?
                            My ''special agenda'' is to enlighten Pashtuns living abroad about their beautiful country they lost to war and poverty, to old and ancient tales. And also to understand Pashtuns and other Afghan tribes abroad how they live, thing, understand eachother, if they live under the same problems there as we do etc. You know what I mean. Now I go off. Want to pray and then take some hours sleep.

                            Our Mayesty Mr. Karzai rescued me from death and starvation, and so my sisters and my brother. He gave me a job. He give me the chance to visit a school. When he came to Afghanistan I and my sisters and brother were nearly to die. We had nothing. No food, no medicaments, no water, no clean clothes, no any real roof over our heads..

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Bost Bastan News View Post
                              My ''special agenda'' is to enlighten Pashtuns living abroad about their beautiful country they lost to war and poverty, to old and ancient tales. And also to understand Pashtuns and other Afghan tribes abroad how they live, thing, understand eachother, if they live under the same problems there as we do etc. You know what I mean. Now I go off. Want to pray and then take some hours sleep
                              but you don't need to call kharzai as your majesty
                              as i know lots of aghans in afg are for ghani

                              good night my sweetheart
                              after your beauty sleep you can enlighten me

                              no what dou you mean?
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                                it's too early to root for anyone to win. when it comes to afghan politics, everyone is equally useless unless they prove themselves otherwise. too much fairy dust being blown in the air right before elections..
                                a few years ago someone brought up this matter in here and i don't know which one of you it was... what do we care if someone is married to a white woman, has a wife or not. what we should worry about is their ability to run the country properly. their personal lives are their own business.
                                DZJ, why did not you contest the election as a presidential or vice-presidential candidate. I think Afghans need a wise person like you.

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