Taliban call to kill collaborators

[Zarawar]

Mullah Omar, the leader of the Afghan Taliban, has reportedly issued a new directive in which he calls on his fighters to capture and kill any Afghan working for foreign forces.

Nato said they stumbled upon the five-point directive after intercepting a letter that the Taliban chief wrote to his field commanders.

The letter calls on commanders to fight foreign troops to the death and capture them whenever possible as well as instructing fighters to obtain more heavy weapons.

The appeal also instructs Taliban field commanders to recruit anyone with access to foreign military bases in order to obtain information on international troops.

One order in the letter specifically calls on fighters to capture and kill Afghan women who are "helping or providing information to coalition forces".

If genuine, the letter marks a turnaround from a directive issued by the Taliban a year ago when Omar urged fighters to avoid harming civilians even if they had been captured.

"We believe this guidance provides important insights into recent events as you may be aware the Taliban are causing an alarmingly high number of civilian causalities, and they have also begun attacking those who have chosen to serve the people of Afghanistan as public servants," Brigadier-General Josef Blotz, a spokesman of the Nato-led International Security Assistance Force (Isaf) said at a news conference in Kabul on Sunday.

'100 per cent sure'

Blotz said he was "100 per cent sure" the letter was from the Taliban leader, although he could not reveal how it had been verified in order to protect Nato's sources.

The Taliban could not be immediately reached for comment.

Violence is at its worst in Afghanistan since US-led forces overthrew the Taliban in late 2001 for refusing to give up al-Qaeda members following the September 11 attacks in the United States.

Omar, seen as the founder of the Taliban movement that emerged during the civil war of the early 1990s, has not been seen in public for years. He is believed to be in Pakistan.

While other leaders are believed to be more involved in the day-to-day command of the insurgency in Afghanistan, Omar is still considered the spiritual head of the movement.

[شمله ور خراساني]

this is clear cut propaganda

[JAMALUDEEN]

Yep, Demonize the taliban just like Iran and North Korea LOL because they do not serve the American interest. Speaking of which, what is the source of this news

[Catya Sher]

Of course it's nothing but more in the long line of faked videos - such as of Osama bin Laden, for example, supposedly claiming responsibility for 9/11 - some officials actually admitted that they did do a lot of doctored videos to suit American foreign policy demands to make Muslims look bad - and so much else too.

There are entire departments which work to fake this stuff.

Any NATO official who says he's 100 percent sure is 100 percent a liar or useful idiot !

The OTHER angle is that almost every American media article relies almost exclusively on American or NATO officials to assess every situation or development.
Isn't that a little one-sided? Yet they are trying to 'press' a so-called "free" political system on Afghanistan.

How many times has anyone seen programs where actual Taliban commanders are given equal time to speak and refute claims and debate with the standard-issue ex-CIA and Israeli operatives or so-called diplomats? These are only "experts" which such dismal places that fox news ever consult. A little strange that nobody protests in the name of fair and open public discussion.

So where is the shining example of enlightened and fair reportage so "the people" can make up their OWN minds?

[شمله ور خراساني]

Katya Sher, I cant find the article where it was reported that the OBL video was faked.

Would you be so kind to post it here?

[Catya Sher]

Hi Sangar,
It was a GOOD article which I saw not long ago. Very eye opening.
Let me search around when I have time a little bit later.
Of course not in the mainstream media but a respected, not a weird, source.

[Catya Sher]

The site is almost unique among reasonably respectable sources in its determined exposure of all the Israeli machinations, and American bad deeds in the entire Middle East.

A google alert took me there awhile ago. Thinking it was PRO-war due to the American flag on the banner, I posted some comments very tentatively. Later I read their material and realized they are AGAINST the war in Afghanistan and very "with it" overall.

If you read the articles by a guy named Jeff Gates, he explains all about how Pakistan is being set up with all these phoney terrorist incidents as the next bad guy in line for maybe takeover. At any rate, he specializes in Israeli undercover tactics - I knew in general but not these details that he provides on incidents way back to the start of Is-not-real [my term for it].
So it IS patriotic to America in the sense of getting rid of the Israeli oppression and giving the truth about all these wars.

I don't agree with the author of THIS article's point of view that Osama died way back in 2001 or so.
But otherwise seems pretty helpful:

GORDON DUFF: CLASSIFIED CIA TRANSCRIPT COUNTERS BIN LADEN TERROR ROLE : Veterans Today

[شمله ور خراساني]

The site is almost unique among reasonably respectable sources in its determined exposure of all the Israeli machinations, and American bad deeds in the entire Middle East.

A google alert took me there awhile ago. Thinking it was PRO-war due to the American flag on the banner, I posted some comments very tentatively. Later I read their material and realized they are AGAINST the war in Afghanistan and very "with it" overall.

If you read the articles by a guy named Jeff Gates, he explains all about how Pakistan is being set up with all these phoney terrorist incidents as the next bad guy in line for maybe takeover. At any rate, he specializes in Israeli undercover tactics - I knew in general but not these details that he provides on incidents way back to the start of Is-not-real [my term for it].
So it IS patriotic to America in the sense of getting rid of the Israeli oppression and giving the truth about all these wars.

I don't agree with the author of THIS article's point of view that Osama died way back in 2001 or so.
But otherwise seems pretty helpful:

GORDON DUFF: CLASSIFIED CIA TRANSCRIPT COUNTERS BIN LADEN TERROR ROLE : Veterans Today

thats quite interesting to see.

For us, this is obviously nothing new since we have been hearing the eye witness accounts of friends and relatives who travel across the war ravaged regions of Afghanistan & Pakistan.

It is a common understanding among people that some of these suicide attacks are the work of outsiders.

And in fact, some former Afghan communists who worked for the Afghan intelligence agency back in the 80's are accused of working for Mossad. But this matter still remains not more than just speculation. As no clear incident is reported that could reveal more.

However, interesting point would be the admittance of Burhanuddin Rabbani, the leader of the main Northern Alliance faction to have been cooperating with Israel for years.

Israel has a very large influence in the current situation in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Infact, I believe if the Israelis are not involved directly, then they certainly have provided material and know-how to some.

[Nadir Shah]

The site is almost unique among reasonably respectable sources in its determined exposure of all the Israeli machinations, and American bad deeds in the entire Middle East.

A google alert took me there awhile ago. Thinking it was PRO-war due to the American flag on the banner, I posted some comments very tentatively. Later I read their material and realized they are AGAINST the war in Afghanistan and very "with it" overall.

If you read the articles by a guy named Jeff Gates, he explains all about how Pakistan is being set up with all these phoney terrorist incidents as the next bad guy in line for maybe takeover. At any rate, he specializes in Israeli undercover tactics - I knew in general but not these details that he provides on incidents way back to the start of Is-not-real [my term for it].
So it IS patriotic to America in the sense of getting rid of the Israeli oppression and giving the truth about all these wars.

I don't agree with the author of THIS article's point of view that Osama died way back in 2001 or so.
But otherwise seems pretty helpful:

GORDON DUFF: CLASSIFIED CIA TRANSCRIPT COUNTERS BIN LADEN TERROR ROLE : Veterans Today

The 'phony terrorist incidents' are nothing but pay back for the crimes of the Pakistani establishment. Plus, Pakistan's instability is our gain, so we shouldn't complain.
Secondly, I think we should appreciate any positive Israeli engagement in Afghanistan and Central Asia.
Thirdly, It is ironic that Mullah Omar, the slave of the Punjabi establishment, is calling for the heads of Afghans collaborating with 'foreign forces'.

[Catya Sher]

Re Sangar's comment:

That's just what I fear too.
I've been wondering what they do and how they do that, but that's a huge clue about Rabbani!
When he admit that/ WOW!!!

You see, I was reporting on the war against the Soviets at that time and all those names are so familar. Especially I remember [and wrote a bit about] the dread Khad. The name sends shivers to this day.

SO THAT'S it! Unemployed Khad agents were looking for work and maybe got recruited indirectly or directly - what do they do, then, is it speculated? I couldn't see a Communist being a suicide bomber, but what other trouble may they be causing possibly ?

One point is that Isnotreal is absolutely chock-full of RUSSIANS who emigrated. Some invented a fake Jewish relative just so they could have what they imagined to be a better life in Israel.
The Russian mafia is unbelievably heavy there. So one could imagine it would be easy for any operative from there to get a hold of anything to stir up trouble in Afghanistan for Muslims.
Unfortunately, as I have seen firsthand, the Russian Orthodox Christians tend to look down upon Muslims, so it is probably all too easy to recruit either them or Russian Jewish people from Israel or any mercenary type to operate against Islamic groups.
But what they do, it would be interesting to learn.

I am tossing out a few ideas.

So does anyone speculate that some Afghans are working for Russia directly? Though they don't publicly say it, Russian leaders must be sore that they got kicked out and internationally humiliated. So I always wonder how they are involved in this time. I doubt they said "hands off". They pretend to cooperate with american requests for help in transportation but I just wonder...

I am so shocked about Rabbani. I never liked him anyway, though, no wonder!
What's this about Khalili you mentioned a couple times. That's Massoud Khalili ?
He was the press liasion for Rabbani's party at that time. I didn't see what was so great about him, but all the Western reporters thought he was really cool.
Is he in the Kabul govt now? This is all fascinating for me

[Catya Sher]

Jamshyd:
Who do YOU work for?!
"positive israeli engagement"
DOING WHAT?
Stirring up trouble is ALL they do, to manipulate the entire world into serving THEIR cause. Not God's cause, not the benefit of the world's people's cause, but the cause of the evil side.

About Mullah Omar, he would NEVER EVER EVER! Call for any WOMEN to be killed.
That's totally against the code, and clearly exposes the ignorance of those who manufactured this piece of fluff to inflame the world's opinion further against the people who stubbornly refuse to hand over their country but insist on defending it.
What's so bad about that?

They have to constantly find something new and sensational, though. Therefore this propaganda to be peddled everywhere that the Taliban are totally against women because they are specifically and ruthlessly targeting their own Afghan women.
It is unlikely to the extreme. Any such deed citing this supposed directive would be done only by an agent of somewhere very secular and anti-God.

[شمله ور خراساني]

Re Sangar's comment:

That's just what I fear too.
I've been wondering what they do and how they do that, but that's a huge clue about Rabbani!
When he admit that/ WOW!!!

You see, I was reporting on the war against the Soviets at that time and all those names are so familar. Especially I remember [and wrote a bit about] the dread Khad. The name sends shivers to this day.

SO THAT'S it! Unemployed Khad agents were looking for work and maybe got recruited indirectly or directly - what do they do, then, is it speculated? I couldn't see a Communist being a suicide bomber, but what other trouble may they be causing possibly ?

One point is that Isnotreal is absolutely chock-full of RUSSIANS who emigrated. Some invented a fake Jewish relative just so they could have what they imagined to be a better life in Israel.
The Russian mafia is unbelievably heavy there. So one could imagine it would be easy for any operative from there to get a hold of anything to stir up trouble in Afghanistan for Muslims.
Unfortunately, as I have seen firsthand, the Russian Orthodox Christians tend to look down upon Muslims, so it is probably all too easy to recruit either them or Russian Jewish people from Israel or any mercenary type to operate against Islamic groups.
But what they do, it would be interesting to learn.

I am tossing out a few ideas.

So does anyone speculate that some Afghans are working for Russia directly? Though they don't publicly say it, Russian leaders must be sore that they got kicked out and internationally humiliated. So I always wonder how they are involved in this time. I doubt they said "hands off". They pretend to cooperate with american requests for help in transportation but I just wonder...

I am so shocked about Rabbani. I never liked him anyway, though, no wonder!
What's this about Khalili you mentioned a couple times. That's Massoud Khalili ?
He was the press liasion for Rabbani's party at that time. I didn't see what was so great about him, but all the Western reporters thought he was really cool.
Is he in the Kabul govt now? This is all fascinating for me

Khalili is the Hazara vice president. From the Shi'ite Hizb wahdat.

And to help you out, here is a scenario:

Communist fleds Afghanistan and seeks refuge in former Soviet Union. He locates some of his old KGB pals. Hangs around with them. Meanwhile, Russians frequent back and forth from Russia to Israel. New friendships are made. New ideas are spread. Before you know it, a new chapter in the adventurous life of KHAD members opens up.

[Catya Sher]

What you both explained is very interesting for me! I never had specifically factored in the role of former Khad traitors.
If you come across any hearsay about what they do - propagandize for Putin OR involvement in false flag operations - probably the latter one especially. But I wonder if they are doing underground work too to rejuvenate the Khaqis and Parchamis for after a withdrawal of Western forces ?
Any ideas, or could you ask around over time?
That was really funny about the adventurous chapter, Sangar. Did those guys ALL flee to Russia, and if so Moscow or Central Asia I wonder...
Yeah, there are tons of former KGB guys out of work so that wouldn't be surprising at all.
Shlombay, yes, of course! It's important to speak out when all these pitiful attempts to sway people are released. Fairness is fairness. No one will call you a Taliban - which is considered to be the worst thing in the world by the average american. They have no idea what they are, but they know they must be a bad person. Why? The US govt drummed this in so much that it MUST be true, they think...

So why do your relatives say that people still support Russia? It's fascinating, really.
Of course, such items would NEVER have appeared in the American media.
There was one article in the London Guardian paper which interviewed someone saying Afghans are NOSTALGIC for the Russian occupation time.
I dismissed that as a plant - for who was better off then? Just Khalqis and Parchamis, right? Or is there any truth to that according to the people you hear from?
Appreciate the answers from both of you!

[شمله ور خراساني]

What you both explained is very interesting for me! I never had specifically factored in the role of former Khad traitors.
If you come across any hearsay about what they do - propagandize for Putin OR involvement in false flag operations - probably the latter one especially. But I wonder if they are doing underground work too to rejuvenate the Khaqis and Parchamis for after a withdrawal of Western forces ?
Any ideas, or could you ask around over time?
That was really funny about the adventurous chapter, Sangar. Did those guys ALL flee to Russia, and if so Moscow or Central Asia I wonder...
Yeah, there are tons of former KGB guys out of work so that wouldn't be surprising at all.
Shlombay, yes, of course! It's important to speak out when all these pitiful attempts to sway people are released. Fairness is fairness. No one will call you a Taliban - which is considered to be the worst thing in the world by the average american. They have no idea what they are, but they know they must be a bad person. Why? The US govt drummed this in so much that it MUST be true, they think...

So why do your relatives say that people still support Russia? It's fascinating, really.
Of course, such items would NEVER have appeared in the American media.
There was one article in the London Guardian paper which interviewed someone saying Afghans are NOSTALGIC for the Russian occupation time.
I dismissed that as a plant - for who was better off then? Just Khalqis and Parchamis, right? Or is there any truth to that according to the people you hear from?
Appreciate the answers from both of you!

Actually, in Kabul, if you just ask around who staff the higher echelons of NDS (formerly known as KHAD), you will quickly find out that they are the same people from the 80's with some addition of Shuraye Nizaar of Ahmed Shah Massoud.

And many Khalqis are now chiefs of the army and other security forces. Muneer Mangal is famous old Khalqi. So is Sher Muhammad Zazai. And a few others.

Most commies have either joined Karzai's clique or Abdullah Abdullah's posse.

The Pashtun fascists are with karzai. And the Tajiks etc are with Abdullah Abdullah.

There are some former KHAd agents who work for different ministries and departments. Some of them are known under new names. One person I know personally, changed his last name. He is very powerful right now.