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  • What will happen if Baluchistan is independent?

    I am talking about a united Baluchistan including:

    Iranian (Sistan o Baluchistan, Hormuzgan, Zahedan and others)
    Pakistani (Pakistani province of Baluchistan and also parts of Sindh and others)
    Afghanistan (Nimroz, southern parts of Helmand and Kandahar)
    Turkmenistani parts of Baluchistan

    The people of Baluchistan should be Baluch (including Sheedi and Brahvi)

    The national and official langauges should be Baluchi and Brahvi.

    The problems are;

    There are many Baluch who live in other places like Karachi, Sindh, GCC states, East Africa, India and in the West, so what to do about them?

    Many of these Baluch outside of Baluchistan do not speak Baluchi so what will be the official language then?

    What to do about Pashtun parts of Baluchistan?

    Now the main question is:

    Will it become a prosperous country like GCC countries or a failed state?

    What do you think?
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    All I have to say to Afghani snakes is:

    God bless Bush, Obama, USA, NATO, USSR, Osama, Taliban, Ahmed Shah Massoud, British, ISI, Northern Alliance and whoever else kills Afghans everyday.
    God bless the man who invented drones.

  • #2
    If Baluchistan become an independent country, I want every single Baluch on earth to live in it and I want only Baluch to inhabit it, otherwise what is the point of independence?

    But I know this is not possible as many Baluch settled outside of Baluchistan would not want to move back to their ancestral land and there are other ethnic groups in Baluchistan who would not want to move out such as Sistani Persians and Pashtuns.

    The language would also be an issue.
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    All I have to say to Afghani snakes is:

    God bless Bush, Obama, USA, NATO, USSR, Osama, Taliban, Ahmed Shah Massoud, British, ISI, Northern Alliance and whoever else kills Afghans everyday.
    God bless the man who invented drones.

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    • #3
      What do you think the capital should be? I think Gwadar should be the capital.

      Do you think it will be a secular country?

      What about the constant threat from neighboring countries like Pakistan and Iran after independence, how would Baluchistan defend itself against them in case of war or invasion?

      What if the Taliban or others attack it?

      What role would the West or India play in this?

      What would the economy be like?
      [SIZE="6"][COLOR="DarkOliveGreen"] اگا بیکارین سوال جست کنی گورا ترا بیکارین جواب مل ات[/COLOR][/SIZE]

      All I have to say to Afghani snakes is:

      God bless Bush, Obama, USA, NATO, USSR, Osama, Taliban, Ahmed Shah Massoud, British, ISI, Northern Alliance and whoever else kills Afghans everyday.
      God bless the man who invented drones.

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      • #4
        I don't think an independent Baluchistan could last very long.

        I think it would become a colony of Pakistan, Iran or Oman once again so theres no point.
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        All I have to say to Afghani snakes is:

        God bless Bush, Obama, USA, NATO, USSR, Osama, Taliban, Ahmed Shah Massoud, British, ISI, Northern Alliance and whoever else kills Afghans everyday.
        God bless the man who invented drones.

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        • #5
          Some facts:

          *The Big Land mass of Balochistan we see is not the Real balochistan but rather merged out of many princely states in hurry so that India can't lay claim over Pakistan territory After independence.But in the meantime Pakistan was so busy that the division on proper Base was not Done

          Onwards 2015 We will see alot of New provinces being made in Pakistan.This is what they have planned for Balochistan

          *Southern Pakhtunkhwa(Pashtuns dominated province)
          *Gwadar with Ancient les bela Province means merging up complete coastal boundries of Balochistan
          *Central Gwadar with Kalat as capital But no access to Sea.



          *Well the latest census is expected later this year.And Becuase of Mass movement from Afghanistan into Balochistan and aquired the citizenship already through domicile of Balochistan has change the populaton of pahstuns to 50-55%,30-35% for baloch and remaining for Bruhi and some other makrani people.

          Gwadar Province will be declared autonomous Like Hong Kong and to be under alot of china's influence.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
            Some facts:

            *The Big Land mass of Balochistan we see is not the Real balochistan but rather merged out of many princely states in hurry so that India can't lay claim over Pakistan territory After independence.But in the meantime Pakistan was so busy that the division on proper Base was not Done

            Onwards 2015 We will see alot of New provinces being made in Pakistan.This is what they have planned for Balochistan

            *Southern Pakhtunkhwa(Pashtuns dominated province)
            *Gwadar with Ancient les bela Province means merging up complete coastal boundries of Balochistan
            *Central Gwadar with Kalat as capital But no access to Sea.



            *Well the latest census is expected later this year.And Becuase of Mass movement from Afghanistan into Balochistan and aquired the citizenship already through domicile of Balochistan has change the populaton of pahstuns to 50-55%,30-35% for baloch and remaining for Bruhi and some other makrani people.

            Gwadar Province will be declared autonomous Like Hong Kong and to be under alot of china's influence.
            I don't want the division of Baluch parts of Baluchistan but Pashtuns can have the Pashun parts. Still, I am happy that Gwadar itself will be autonomous but I'm not very happy about Chinese presence.
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            All I have to say to Afghani snakes is:

            God bless Bush, Obama, USA, NATO, USSR, Osama, Taliban, Ahmed Shah Massoud, British, ISI, Northern Alliance and whoever else kills Afghans everyday.
            God bless the man who invented drones.

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            • #7
              since when does the idea of independent balochistan exist?
              when and who mentioned this idea first?
              was it brought by farangi?
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              • #8
                another issue baloch are tribe people
                which tribe will lead the country?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dila Teer Bija View Post
                  I don't want the division of Baluch parts of Baluchistan but Pashtuns can have the Pashun parts. Still, I am happy that Gwadar itself will be autonomous but I'm not very happy about Chinese presence.
                  Division will not only happen of Balochistan but Sindh,Punjab and KPK aswell.

                  Chinese presence in Gwadar will mean alot of development.

                  Some projects in close future we will see in Gwadar

                  *Oil refinery
                  *Airport
                  *Rail link with Karachi
                  *A shipbuilding yard(to be completed this year)
                  *A Naval base
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Hallo View Post
                    since when does the idea of independent balochistan exist?
                    when and who mentioned this idea first?
                    was it brought by farangi?
                    Modern idea of independent Baluchistan was invented by Baluch nationalists recently in last few decades. Who is Farangi?
                    [SIZE="6"][COLOR="DarkOliveGreen"] اگا بیکارین سوال جست کنی گورا ترا بیکارین جواب مل ات[/COLOR][/SIZE]

                    All I have to say to Afghani snakes is:

                    God bless Bush, Obama, USA, NATO, USSR, Osama, Taliban, Ahmed Shah Massoud, British, ISI, Northern Alliance and whoever else kills Afghans everyday.
                    God bless the man who invented drones.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Hallo View Post
                      another issue baloch are tribe people
                      which tribe will lead the country?
                      Which tribe leads Pashtuns? Stupid quesion.

                      Whoever is elected would lead, the idea is to have a democratic Baluchisan.
                      [SIZE="6"][COLOR="DarkOliveGreen"] اگا بیکارین سوال جست کنی گورا ترا بیکارین جواب مل ات[/COLOR][/SIZE]

                      All I have to say to Afghani snakes is:

                      God bless Bush, Obama, USA, NATO, USSR, Osama, Taliban, Ahmed Shah Massoud, British, ISI, Northern Alliance and whoever else kills Afghans everyday.
                      God bless the man who invented drones.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                        Division will not only happen of Balochistan but Sindh,Punjab and KPK aswell.

                        Chinese presence in Gwadar will mean alot of development.

                        Some projects in close future we will see in Gwadar

                        *Oil refinery
                        *Airport
                        *Rail link with Karachi
                        *A shipbuilding yard(to be completed this year)
                        *A Naval base
                        Ok but I dont want Gwadar to become a colony of China with a lot of Chinese living there, these people are like locust who come in large numbers and take over.
                        [SIZE="6"][COLOR="DarkOliveGreen"] اگا بیکارین سوال جست کنی گورا ترا بیکارین جواب مل ات[/COLOR][/SIZE]

                        All I have to say to Afghani snakes is:

                        God bless Bush, Obama, USA, NATO, USSR, Osama, Taliban, Ahmed Shah Massoud, British, ISI, Northern Alliance and whoever else kills Afghans everyday.
                        God bless the man who invented drones.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dila Teer Bija View Post
                          Modern idea of independent Baluchistan was invented by Baluch nationalists recently in last few decades. Who is Farangi?
                          and from whom took this nationalists the idea of independent baluchistan?
                          sorry farangi is persian word for foreigner. i though it's common among baloch people too lol
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Dila Teer Bija View Post
                            Which tribe leads Pashtuns? Stupid quesion.

                            Whoever is elected would lead, the idea is to have a democratic Baluchisan.
                            as i know the tribe of kharzai is the strong one
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dila Teer Bija View Post
                              Ok but I dont want Gwadar to become a colony of China with a lot of Chinese living there, these people are like locust who come in large numbers and take over.
                              Well They only will be in gwadar for development aswell as to secure their energy route.

                              This will generate hell alot of revenue for Pakistan since China alone trade with Middle east is more than 200billion dollars.

                              A total of 52Billion dollars investment is being agreed For the next 2 decades.
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