Baloch long march request NATO to tackle paki army in balochistan

[Smarty]

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Family members of missing persons of balochistan are doing long march from quetta to islamabad, it has gained some media attention. Mama qadir baloch, who is heading the march, has said that intelligence agencies are harassing and threatening them. He also said that the people central and northren punjab gave them cold shoulders. Now is islamabad he is asking U.N to intervene and is asking NATO to rescue them from pakistani security forces.

[Smarty]

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[Darkness]

They are so dumb, inviting NATO to Pakistan like this. If US/NATO comes to Pakistan, our beautiful country will become yet another Afghanistan or Iraq.

[Darkness]

I don't believe the Baloch will ever get their own country.

The first intelligent thing you've ever said. Congratulations.

[Loy Afghanistan]

They are so dumb, inviting NATO to Pakistan like this. If US/NATO comes to Pakistan, our beautiful country will become yet another Afghanistan or Iraq.

I don't know, but Porkistan invited NATO weapon and NATO jihadi troops to fight Afghanistan and destroyed all of its infrastructure and cities 40 years ago. So payback would be a good thing? I mean hey, what goes around comes around?

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

I don't know, but Porkistan invited NATO weapon and NATO jihadi troops to fight Afghanistan and destroyed all of its infrastructure and cities 40 years ago. So payback would be a good thing? I mean hey, what goes around comes around?

Nato won't attack Pakistan ever.

As in the past.If war between indo-pak is set to happen than pakistan will be the starter.

While No other country in the region has capability to attack pakistan

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

[QUOTE=Kushan Prince;730225]

Are you sure about that? paki and u.s. relations have already deteriorated when your goverment hid OBL.

Are you sure about this part?Since i am yet to come over any official statement of American govt claiming that Pakistan govt was involved in hiding OBL.

NATO Can only attack Smaller countries and with Smaller population.

Pakistan and USA relations are improving Now again.

So you want to get your ass whooped again just like you did in 71?

Not really,More like 65.we lost in 1971 because 99% of the east Pakistan population was against Pakistan.

Here in Pakistan People like me are ready to fight alongside Pakistan army against Indians.

But as i earlier told you.Considering the nuke threat,No further engagement in future.Rather i see a solution to the kashmir Problem between nawaz and the upcoming govt in New delhi.

errr no comment.

Tell me which country in the region has capability to attack Pakistan except India?

China even though capable,But they won't attack Pakistan

[vinyard80]

We are fighting, killing and abusing each other meanwhile westerners are taking advantage of our stupidity, ethnic nationalism, lack of culture/education and religious fanatism.

We are dumb and we deserve what we got.

[gadoonwal]

As long as pakistan serving westren interests and taking care of west like servant no one will support poor baluchs.
The suffering will continue.

[gadoonwal]

There is no such thing as Balochistan. The land you call "Balochistan" is actually Godar and was inhabited pashtuns in antiquity like the sakas and bactrians. I love and respect my balochi brothers but they need to honest with themselves, they are originally from Syria as they always claim and an independent balochistan is not possible. The whole name in fact was fabricated by the british. Just like their cousins the kurds, they're not going to get their own homeland, its not going to happen.

Once porkistan splits up, this is how afghanistan 2030 will look like.



Loy Afghanistan for life!

you need to prove your claim.
I agree on the pashtun part of baluchistan but the baluchiland is belong to baluchs.
In fact Baluch claim on nimroz,half of helmond and also southren kandar.
For centuries different baluch sardar rule their areas.
It was kalat state not godar.
At present afghanistan can,nt even control its own terrotiry so how can they claim on baluchiland.
Remember the Baluch nationalists hate pashtuns and afghanistan,s idealogy of loy afg.
They know that at the end they lose everything to pashtuns.
They even hate the pakipied kandaris in queta area.
Many kandaris,helmondwals etc now got paki id card and settled in queta area.The baluchs are now minority.
They raised this issue so many time to send them back.
Like you i always had this dream to unite pashtus and baluch into one greater country so we can get access to sea but the game has changed.
We are failed on all sides.
Afghanistan govt celebrate the pashtun-baluch freedom day for decades so think about if baluchistan is belong to afghanistan why not celebrate greater afg day?
The afg govt support the azad baluchistan movement and the arms coming from the afghan sides .The indains and west use afghan ground for weapons to be supplied to baluchis.

The pashtuns and afghanistan will be slave forvever if we do not get access to sea.

[gadoonwal]

The baluchs are clever and smart people.They exposed pakistan.
They kept away their movement from ,,isi,,type talibism.
They do not allow talibism in their area.
Sooner or later baluchistan will become country.
The pashtuns of all sides are falling into greater ,,isi,,game keep my words.
We left with nothing.
The northren afghanistan managed to keep away from this game of pakistani establishment.
pashtuns are not good in politics but the best in blame game,end of the story.
The arabised pashtuns are control from lahore.
This pakistani arabization of pashtuns is takingover the whole pashtunland in fact already takenover.This so called arabization will end in pakistanyath.
The so called nationalists are hiding and many escaped .

[Smarty]

We are fighting, killing and abusing each other meanwhile westerners are taking advantage of our stupidity, ethnic nationalism, lack of culture/education and religious fanatism.

We are dumb and we deserve what we got.

They are saying this out of desperation, when their relatives are picked up by intelligence agencies and after some time their tortured dead bodies are found, they pray for destruction of paki army at the hands of any one which is more powerful than them e.g NATO.
This mama qadir baloch was when marching through punjab, abuses were hurled by punjabis at him and women accompanying him. He managed to convey the voice of balochs in islamabad despite of all kind of harassements....salaute to him.

[Smarty]

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Are you sure about this part?Since i am yet to come over any official statement of American govt claiming that Pakistan govt was involved in hiding OBL.

NATO Can only attack Smaller countries and with Smaller population.

Pakistan and USA relations are improving Now again.



Not really,More like 65.we lost in 1971 because 99% of the east Pakistan population was against Pakistan.

Here in Pakistan People like me are ready to fight alongside Pakistan army against Indians.

But as i earlier told you.Considering the nuke threat,No further engagement in future.Rather i see a solution to the kashmir Problem between nawaz and the upcoming govt in New delhi.



Tell me which country in the region has capability to attack Pakistan except India?

China even though capable,But they won't attack Pakistan

You are underestimating west,they dont need to attack pakistan, they would simply induce "paki spring" in the country.
Your country is safe as long as it serve interests of west.

[Bost Bastan News]

Balochi people are strict independent people with an own identity. Unlike Pakistani Pashtuns they do not serve Pakistani interests nor do they co-operate with them. Balochistan was without any right annexed by the British to Pakistan. Even during Ahmad Shah Baba Balochistan was an independent ''state'' (empire). We had political marriage with eachother and nothing else. The Balochi people are well-known being very good fighters and very savage to their enemies. If Baloch people would have all those technologies the Pak army and the state has you can bet your ass they already would have taken apart all Pakistan. What I see from a political perspective connected to the social situation of Balochs globaly is that Balochistan will be the future for central asia. No-one can stop Balochistan of turning from a province to an own state. US and many european states have realized in the last decade the suffering of the Balochi people. I am sure once Balochi people have their own country they will even leave Karachi which they dominate political and ethnical for centuries within the Sindh province. What Balochi people need is an own port and with Gwadar they have one but unfortunately yet they don´t own it. Pashtun nationalist from Afghanistan may claim Balochistan as theirs however this is a dream and will remain a dream. We in Afghanistan have not even owned our own house yet we make wrong claims on other people´s heritage and properties. That will backlash on us with alot of suffering for our coming generations.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Balochi people are strict independent people with an own identity. Unlike Pakistani Pashtuns they do not serve Pakistani interests nor do they co-operate with them. Balochistan was without any right annexed by the British to Pakistan. Even during Ahmad Shah Baba Balochistan was an independent ''state'' (empire). We had political marriage with eachother and nothing else. The Balochi people are well-known being very good fighters and very savage to their enemies. If Baloch people would have all those technologies the Pak army and the state has you can bet your ass they already would have taken apart all Pakistan. What I see from a political perspective connected to the social situation of Balochs globaly is that Balochistan will be the future for central asia. No-one can stop Balochistan of turning from a province to an own state. US and many european states have realized in the last decade the suffering of the Balochi people. I am sure once Balochi people have their own country they will even leave Karachi which they dominate political and ethnical for centuries within the Sindh province. What Balochi people need is an own port and with Gwadar they have one but unfortunately yet they don´t own it. Pashtun nationalist from Afghanistan may claim Balochistan as theirs however this is a dream and will remain a dream. We in Afghanistan have not even owned our own house yet we make wrong claims on other people´s heritage and properties. That will backlash on us with alot of suffering for our coming generations.

The Problem with Baloch indepdents are

*they are way too small in number(Only 3.4Million in Balochistan)Of them not even 10% are in favour of Independent Balochistan.Not because they don't want it.But because they know this is something next to Impossible

*All the rich Baloch has left for Karachi and parts of Punjab.While those living in Balochistan are among the most poorest communities in Pakistan

*The Pakistan as a state is way too strong for them

*They are 3% of Pakistan population while Balochistan land is 47% of Total Pakistan land mass

*Pakistan has invited Superpower in Making China to the region and into gwadar.With upto 20Billion dollars investment in close future.Iranian investment is suppose to be of total 8Billion dollars in Gwadar with alone the formation of Oil refinery to cost 4-5Billion dollars.

Hence Gwadar is the interest of CHina.And now not even the America has the capability to engage in the independence of balochistan.China would not let it go away with Billion dollars Investment

China Trade with middle east is more than 200Billion dollars.of them 78% of it is through importing the oil.Through sea it takes 2months for a ship to reach China from Gulf states,Through Pakistan it will take 7-8days.

Most important Part is that through Sea With Ameican pressure,India,Singapore,Vietnam and all the related region countries can stop the supply line incase of war.But through Pakistan no one can.

*The Most important problem is the Baloch in the rest of Pakistan are extremely patriotic and doesnt care about their feeling of Baloch People.

While the Pakistani solution through Imran khan Mind is.

New provinces creation is pushed to 2015.

Balochistan will be divided into 3 new provinces(The rest of Pakistan aswell including kpk)

*Central Balochistan with no excess to sea
*Southern pakhtunkhwa
*Gwadar made up of All the related coastal region and Ancient las bela state