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    NORTH WAZIRISTAN: Fighter jets on Thursday bombed hideouts of suspected militants in North Waziristan, killing 20 insurgents including foreign nationals, Express News reported.
    According to sources, 15 militants were killed in the Mir Ali area while five were killed in the Shawal area.
    Reportedly, the hideouts were completely destroyed. Sources also said that weapons and explosives were destroyed in the bombings.


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  • #2
    No peace talks with tali*******s anymore.they have proved to be backstabbers

    I was not in favour of NW operation But now i am the biggest supporter after the execution of FC troops.

    Bomb them,if they are captured alive Burn them in public.Every single of them cut into thousand of pieces.

    How the hell can we expect peace deals with animals.

    Army should give time to the Civilians to move out of the region.2 months are more than enough to hang them by their balls.
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    • #3
      taliban never were serious for dialogue from the beginning.

      They just wanted to buy the time and increase the attacks.

      With the operation in north waziristan and permanent representation of more than 10k in NW for the next 10 years.THe region will turn out to be like swat where the tourists outflow has increase many folds
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      • #4
        Also since Pakistan already has got the Burraq UCAV and i believe the turkish utmas missile might be imported if the one from nescom is not ready

        For this operation they will use Burraq Drone which is said to have operational cost extremely less compared to F-16 or JF-17
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
          No peace talks with tali*******s anymore.they have proved to be backstabbers

          I was not in favour of NW operation But now i am the biggest supporter after the execution of FC troops.

          Bomb them,if they are captured alive Burn them in public.Every single of them cut into thousand of pieces.

          How the hell can we expect peace deals with animals.

          Army should give time to the Civilians to move out of the region.2 months are more than enough to hang them by their balls.
          Your naivety is side effect of over-doses of mutala e pakistan. read this news of past month,

          PESHAWAR (Web Desk) - Fearing military operation, locals of the restive North Waziristan Agency are migrating to safer places on the third day after PAF jets shelled militant hideouts in Mir Ali and Miranshah areas, Dunya News reported on Thursday.
          Markets were closed and business activities remained suspended in different areas.
          According to sources, the people were fleeing their homes ahead of possible military action in Mir Ali.
          On the other hand, Political Agent Siraj Ahmad Khan has appealed the locals to stop migrating as there is no danger.
          Political administration under army was asking people of mir ali to not migrate even though intense bombing took place. And now aerial bombing of mir ali has taken place again proving that PA wrong. It is clear that army want to punish non-taliban tribal population and is trying to subdue them through bombardments......there is concept of collective responsibility and collective punishment in tribal areas, these were tactics of british and now punjabis are using it. Punjabis think that it is responsibility of tribals to fight against heavily armed and well organized talibans else they should be ready for wrath of F-16, JF-thunder......

          You should listen to retired general shahid aziz who said on capital talk program me that it all started with heavy artillery shelling of villages in south waziristan in 2004, as massive collateral damages took place due to shelling....the wazirs turned against army
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Smarty View Post
            Your naivety is side effect of over-doses of mutala e pakistan. read this news of past month,



            Political administration under army was asking people of mir ali to not migrate even though intense bombing took place. And now aerial bombing of mir ali has taken place again proving that PA wrong. It is clear that army want to punish non-taliban tribal population and is trying to subdue them through bombardments......there is concept of collective responsibility and collective punishment in tribal areas, these were tactics of british and now punjabis are using it. Punjabis think that it is responsibility of tribals to fight against heavily armed and well organized talibans else they should be ready for wrath of F-16, JF-thunder......

            You should listen to retired general shahid aziz who said on capital talk program me that it all started with heavy artillery shelling of villages in south waziristan in 2004, as massive collateral damages took place due to shelling....the wazirs turned against army
            We must accept that Nawaz was indeed in favour of Peace deals despite that Most of Pakistanis including army were opposed to the peace deals.

            In the mean time,Intially they bombed cinema in peshawar,than Claimed responsibility of karachi blast.Than execuated 23 FC troops.Than killed 2 majors in the past week.

            While their was no Drone or any Aerial strike from Pakistan side.

            It certainly confirms my point that Taliban doesnt wanted peace deals for start.They were just playing to buy more time.or those who wanted had no control over the other sub groups working Under them.

            Operation will most likely begin in Early april.atleast 80% of the civilian will migrant to Bannu.

            today i regret.Americans indeed were right.we should have launched operation in North waziristan in 2008 when we were forced to.

            Today it is too late.their strenth as increased many folds.But anyway i don't doubt the capability of PA.I am sure the local will support Army as had happened anywhere in other parts of Pakistan including South waziristan.
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            • #7
              Since the Operation is All set to begin

              *Enough time should be given to the civilian for move out
              *If possible the transport should be provided to the locals
              *Unlike such as in Makeen,SW where every single house was bombed.Army should not repeat it this time
              *Border with Afghanistan should be sealed for the next 6 months
              *Security situation throughout Pakistan should be tightened since several fold increase in terrorist activities is expected
              *For Burraq UCAV,turkish Utmas should be imported in incredibly high numbers
              *The launch of PRSS(Pakistan remote sensing satellite) should be rescheduled to march instead of june.For more better live coverage of NW without any cost of deploying UAV's for normal Surveillance.
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              • #8
                Nescom Burraq UCAV(Unmanned combat air vehicle)
                Flying


                front with 2 Laser guided Bomb's





                Model



                In Production Plant,Nescom


                Model again



                F-16 per sortie cost is said to be higher than 20k dollars.While Burraq UCAV could be less than 1k.Considering that Shahpar endurance is 14hours.The burraq almost thrice of Shahpar size will have endurance of atleast 20hours
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                • #9
                  Shahpar UAV made by a private firm in Pakistan.

                  Navy ordered them recently.

                  With record only 300 dollars per sortie cost making it one of the most chepest UAV to fly.





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                  • #10
                    You are such an idiot, you expect governament to provide transport to 8 lakh people of waziristan for evacuation?....When operation starts, people are expected to arrange transport for themeselves. In such situations there is great shortage of transport vehicles in regions like waziristan. Secondly drivers take very high fare...the poor ones are left behind and have to walk on foot under aerial bombardment and artillary/tanks shelling, many are caught in the fire...
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                    • #11
                      I thought the operation has begun.

                      Govt said if their is any group who wants peace talks than we are ready.

                      Operation will start in May as indicated by someone's on Aj news just recently.

                      The last time i had been to miranshah was in 2011 and the fare was just 90pkr from bannu.it must be not more than 150pkr today..

                      When the baka khel/jani khel operation were conducted in 2009.A camp was created in surrani,bannu and all of them were provided food and security for 3 weeks.

                      Mir ali is too close to bannu and the fare must be less than 100pkr.may be even 50pkr.

                      So locals can afford it but a operation can only become successful if the region is completely evacuated
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                        I thought the operation has begun.

                        Govt said if their is any group who wants peace talks than we are ready.

                        Operation will start in May as indicated by someone's on Aj news just recently.

                        The last time i had been to miranshah was in 2011 and the fare was just 90pkr from bannu.it must be not more than 150pkr today..

                        When the baka khel/jani khel operation were conducted in 2009.A camp was created in surrani,bannu and all of them were provided food and security for 3 weeks.

                        Mir ali is too close to bannu and the fare must be less than 100pkr.may be even 50pkr.

                        So locals can afford it but a operation can only become successful if the region is completely evacuated
                        You idiot, there are no special transport services for 8 lakh people....you have to arrange any vehicle for your entire family and necessary items at the fare in the range of several thousand rupees to lakh depending upon the accomodation capacity of the vehicle. Thats what happened in swat and elsewhere. Tell me how many families in NW have their own transport? At such time fare is not the main issue, the big concern is shortage of vehicles to carry you out of the area. This is situation in announced operation, imagine what would be the situation in unannounced operation?. And this bombing didnt take place just in mir ali, it also occured in deeper regions like datta khel and shawal valley.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Smarty View Post
                          You idiot, there are no special transport services for 8 lakh people....you have to arrange any vehicle for your entire family and necessary items at the fare in the range of several thousand rupees to lakh depending upon the accomodation capacity of the vehicle. Thats what happened in swat and elsewhere. Tell me how many families in NW have their own transport? At such time fare is not the main issue, the big concern is shortage of vehicles to carry you out of the area. This is situation in announced operation, imagine what would be the situation in unannounced operation?. And this bombing didnt take place just in mir ali, it also occured in deeper regions like datta khel and shawal valley.
                          lol indeed we are all idiot and the genius is only you around.
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                          • #14
                            I am against bombing unless intel is on point. I want boots on the ground, and civilians to evacuate.

                            The people of Waziristan should not be held hostage by ttp or anyone else.

                            They are not ghair ilakha. They are our own blood.

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                            • #15
                              I hope TTP brings Sharia law so these Parki dollar lovers. Where is JEHAD in Parkistan when you need it? We need to send Mujahedding from Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Bangladesh0 to this US allied country. they don't follow Qur'an and Sharia law. These US Dollar worshippers need to be punished in Islamabad and the whole region. Burn them with their money in front of cameras.

                              Take this Danu banu in camera to, I want to see him burned, because it seems that he is against Sharia Law and Islam. he support US dollar loving pakis government.

                              Those who spoke against TTP and Sharia Law in Pakistan is kuffr.
                              To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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