US wants to break Pakistan

[Pakwatan]

Salamuna,

Then what is the difference between Pakistan and India? At that point, if you make Pakistan a secular state, then why not reunite back with India? I think slowly, but surely, you'd realize that Pakistan was a British invention to further divide and rule the populace.

I disagree with you Admin Khan.


Pakistan was made for Muslims. It was not made by Jinnah, but by all those Muslims that sacrificed their lives against the hindus. You think we and the Indians are the same people, but you are so wrong. I have nothing against Indians, but I can never accept them as my people.

Ask those families that were sent mutilated corpses of their loved ones from trains leaving India.

Ask those bazoorg people of ours, how the hindus would set loose pigs in our masjids.

Ask those people that lost their wives, sisters, and daughters to marauding Sikhs and Hindus.

During partition we did not have the weapons. The Sikhs had all the weapons they brought back from WWII.

All of us Punjabis only had hand scythes and knives to fight back the enemy.

My grandmother was only a child and told me how the Sikhs raided the train station, abducted a woman, impaled her infant with a sword and raised it towards the sky to let the body slide downwards.

Pakistan is a nation and a strong nation.

[Admin Khan]

Pakwatan,

The member I quoted wants to make Pakistan a secular nation, if such is the case, then it's not an Islamic republic and your cause/argument is nullified. Why then leave secular India in the first place?

And to elaborate, Pakistan is an artificial state, like Afghanistan, created by Britain to divide Muslims. You are naive, and I don't blame you. One day however, you will learn and realize. In fact most of the leaders in it's creation where white angrez. Head of Pak Army or ISI.

Best,

I disagree with you Admin Khan.


Pakistan was made for Muslims. It was not made by Jinnah, but by all those Muslims that sacrificed their lives against the hindus. You think we and the Indians are the same people, but you are so wrong. I have nothing against Indians, but I can never accept them as my people.

Ask those families that were sent mutilated corpses of their loved ones from trains leaving India.

Ask those bazoorg people of ours, how the hindus would set loose pigs in our masjids.

Ask those people that lost their wives, sisters, and daughters to marauding Sikhs and Hindus.

During partition we did not have the weapons. The Sikhs had all the weapons they brought back from WWII.

All of us Punjabis only had hand scythes and knives to fight back the enemy.

My grandmother was only a child and told me how the Sikhs raided the train station, abducted a woman, impaled her infant with a sword and raised it towards the sky to let the body slide downwards.

Pakistan is a nation and a strong nation.

[Pakwatan]

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[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Salamuna,

Then what is the difference between Pakistan and India? At that point, if you make Pakistan a secular state, then why not reunite back with India? I think slowly, but surely, you'd realize that Pakistan was a British invention to further divide and rule the populace.

Walikumslam

Th difference is that soon after independence Pakistan was taken over by Islamist.

Jinnah was a secular person,He didnt wanted to name Pakistan a Islamic republic and this is the reason Under him Pakistan was named "State of Pakistan"

And Yes i Do agree about the divide and rule part aswell.

Pakistan being made for Muslim and the 2 nationa theory was coined for the purpose to run the Pakistan creation movement.You know Pakistanis can be easily brainwashed Under Islam and Muslim khatre main ha slogans.

The difference between a secular pakistan and secular India would be that Modern day Pakistan geography was never completely under Indian empires.Pakistani and indian were always different.

India claim to be the successor state of Ashoka created maurya empires

While Pakistan InshAllah will one day claim to be the successor state of Indus valley civilization.

I am happy over the partition of South asia into Pakistan and india.But if given a choice to declare Pakistan a Islamic state or reunite with India.I will surely chose the latter.

Indus valley civilization and Modern Pakistan Geography



I still Maintain That Indian always meant Only south and central Indian.

Western aswell as northern indian and Pakistanis were always same people.or almost same.

As per various studies,First human came to South asia through South india

[Pakwatan]

Walikumslam

Th difference is that soon after independence Pakistan was taken over by Islamist.

Jinnah was a secular person,He didnt wanted to name Pakistan a Islamic republic and this is the reason Under him Pakistan was named "State of Pakistan"

And Yes i Do agree about the divide and rule part aswell.

Pakistan being made for Muslim and the 2 nationa theory was coined for the purpose to run the Pakistan creation movement.You know Pakistanis can be easily brainwashed Under Islam and Muslim khatre main ha slogans.

The difference between a secular pakistan and secular India would be that Modern day Pakistan geography was never completely under Indian empires.Pakistani and indian were always different.

India claim to be the successor state of Ashoka created maurya empires

While Pakistan InshAllah will one day claim to be the successor state of Indus valley civilization.

I am happy over the partition of South asia into Pakistan and india.But if given a choice to declare Pakistan a Islamic state or reunite with India.I will surely chose the latter.

Indus valley civilization and Modern Pakistan Geography



I still Maintain That Indian always meant Only south and central Indian.

Western aswell as northern indian and Pakistanis were always same people.or almost same.

As per various studies,First human came to South asia through South india

Yaar, tumay Islam ke barien mein kya galat lag tha hain?

Hum Pakistani saray Musalmaan hain. Hum saab ki izat kar tey hain magar Islam ke barein me kyun khilaf hain tu??

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Yaar, tumay Islam ke barien mein kya galat lag tha hain?

Hum Pakistani saray Musalmaan hain. Hum saab ki izat kar tey hain magar Islam ke barein me kyun khilaf hain tu??

Brother.I have nothing against Islam.I am a muslim aswell But Mullah's should not be given so much importance into politics

Religion should not be mixed with state.

Take example of turkey,They are much better Muslim than us and secular aswell.

Considering the future of Pakistan.I am sure by 2030-35,everyone in Pakistan will want to make it a secular republic

[Pakwatan]

Brother.I have nothing against Islam.I am a muslim aswell But Mullah's should not be given so much importance into politics

Religion should not be mixed with state.

Take example of turkey,They are much better Muslim than us and secular aswell.

Considering the future of Pakistan.I am sure by 2030-35,everyone in Pakistan will want to make it a secular republic

I understand.

But we are all Muslim. Our religion teaches us to respect other people of different faiths.

Musalmano ney kabhi zulam ney kiyah dosray lokhon par.

The people that attack Shias and other minorites are not Muslim. They are murtad criminals.

Pakistan was aways supposed to be secular, but with a Muslim majority.

I just wish that people will realize that Muslims are the most tolerant people.

Thanks for everything else shezadeh.

You look very cute and shareef in your picture.Alhamdulillah

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

I understand.

But we are all Muslim. Our religion teaches us to respect other people of different faiths.

Musalmano ney kabhi zulam ney kiyah dosray lokhon par.

The people that attack Shias and other minorites are not Muslim. They are murtad criminals.

Pakistan was aways supposed to be secular, but with a Muslim majority.

I just wish that people will realize that Muslims are the most tolerant people.

Thanks for everything else shezadeh.

You look very cute and shareef in your picture.Alhamdulillah

This is what i meant,Muslim majority But secular.



2 Things i like the most About Punjabis.

1-They cannot be easily fooled by Mullah's for extremism
2-Even a Son of a beggar will attend school if his father is a punjabi.

[Pakwatan]

This is what i meant,Muslim majority But secular.



2 Things i like the most About Punjabis.

1-They cannot be easily fooled by Mullah's for extremism
2-Even a Son of a beggar will attend school if his father is a punjabi.

Tareef to boht achi laagi, magar our Punjabis are no different.

Do you know how many kids are in madrassas?


In South Punjab, every masjid is filled with weapons. They have so much aslaa that they are waiting for TTP to declare war.

If TTP openly declare war, then LaL Masjid will be nothing in comparison of the thousands of masjids all over Pakistan.

There are many successful Punjabis, like my cousin's side. Their father is general surgeon of Punjab and will make sure his children are successful, but they do not deserve their titles. They have gained their credentials from worse than fake schools. Many Pashtuns in Pakistan are in medical and many of them have earned their position with honesty and hard work.


We are all equal people. The Mullahs only attract the poor people from both sides.

In terms of Pakistan, there is no Punjabi or Pashtun. Both people are facing the same problems.

[Smarty]

I disagree with you Admin Khan.


Pakistan was made for Muslims. It was not made by Jinnah, but by all those Muslims that sacrificed their lives against the hindus. You think we and the Indians are the same people, but you are so wrong. I have nothing against Indians, but I can never accept them as my people.

Ask those families that were sent mutilated corpses of their loved ones from trains leaving India.

Ask those bazoorg people of ours, how the hindus would set loose pigs in our masjids.

Ask those people that lost their wives, sisters, and daughters to marauding Sikhs and Hindus.

During partition we did not have the weapons. The Sikhs had all the weapons they brought back from WWII.

All of us Punjabis only had hand scythes and knives to fight back the enemy.

My grandmother was only a child and told me how the Sikhs raided the train station, abducted a woman, impaled her infant with a sword and raised it towards the sky to let the body slide downwards.

Pakistan is a nation and a strong nation.

Secular beardless jinnah was running the show, he signed agreement of redclif line, giving away some muslim majority districts of punjab and bengal to india and thus is directly responsible for blood shed in punjab. Dont entirely blame sikhs, muslim punjabis in west also have killed and raped same number of hindu and sikh men women and childern...some even say that the communal violence was first started in west punjab by muslim leaguis who started looting the properties of hindus and sikhs before the announcement of partition.....you all punjabis behaved in one fashion.

And jinnah is the one who aggrevated hindu muslim tensions in india by playing the politics of hindu vs muslim

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Tareef to boht achi laagi, magar our Punjabis are no different.

Do you know how many kids are in madrassas?


In South Punjab, every masjid is filled with weapons. They have so much aslaa that they are waiting for TTP to declare war.

If TTP openly declare war, then LaL Masjid will be nothing in comparison of the thousands of masjids all over Pakistan.

There are many successful Punjabis, like my cousin's side. Their father is general surgeon of Punjab and will make sure his children are successful, but they do not deserve their titles. They have gained their credentials from worse than fake schools. Many Pashtuns in Pakistan are in medical and many of them have earned their position with honesty and hard work.


We are all equal people. The Mullahs only attract the poor people from both sides.

In terms of Pakistan, there is no Punjabi or Pashtun. Both people are facing the same problems.

Both of them face similar problems.

But the attention toward education is given more by a punjabi family compared to a poor pashtun family.

Ofcourse things are changing on Pashtun side aswell.but we are where punjabis were 3-4 decades before.

Just look at the difference of Punjab and KPK or FATA literacy rate.

[Pakwatan]

Secular beardless jinnah was running the show, he signed agreement of redclif line, giving away some muslim majority districts of punjab and bengal to india and thus is directly responsible for blood shed in punjab. Dont entirely blame sikhs, muslim punjabis in west also have killed and raped same number of hindu and sikh men women and childern...some even say that the communal violence was first started in west punjab by muslim leaguis who started looting the properties of hindus and sikhs before the announcement of partition.....you all punjabis behaved in one fashion.

And jinnah is the one who aggrevated hindu muslim tensions in india by playing the politics of hindu vs muslim

Move your people to the Indian border and switch with us.


Then you will realize we are not making this stuff up.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Jaar bani gula, khpal picture dey upload karray.....domra khapa waley lagay?..haleka picture ta smile kawal shi

Ghakhoona ma gadwad di,no che smile kawo bya bad shakaran. :P

[Smarty]

Move your people to the Indian border and switch with us.


Then you will realize we are not making this stuff up.

We have nothing to do with indians, hindus and sikhs were your headache....infact headache of bihari, delhwi and lucknowi muslijs, who were sizable minorities in their provinces.
We pakhtuns and baloch are in pakistan thanks to british...without durand line treaty, pashtuns were supposed to be in afghanistan while you punjabis would have the choice to remain with hindus or struggle for independent muslim country....without british there was no way you punjabis and other hindi muslims could have created country for themeselves...you people were always ruled, not rulers.

[Smarty]

Ghakhoona ma gadwad di,no che smile kawo bya bad shakaran. :P

Girlfriend ta ba dey ghakhuna khkuli khkari, ka ighay ta dey dagha shaan makh newalay wi? :P