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    KABUL // In the shadows of the mountains south-west of Kabul, among the apple orchards and cherry trees of the Tangi valley, lies a shrine that has become a site of pilgrimage and part of local legend.

    Young and old travel from across the area to offer their respects and pray at the grave of Fazel Rabi, a Taliban commander killed about two years ago.

    He spent his last days in Maidan Wardak province on the run, moving from house to house and village to village as foreign troops hunted him down. Then one night they got their man, catching up with him and, the story goes, finishing him off while he slept in a mosque.

    The facts surrounding Mr Rabi’s final moments are impossible to verify and could, like a lot of what shapes this conflict, be half-truth, rumour, myth or propaganda. But what seems beyond doubt is that, despite his death, both he and his fellow rebels are still far from defeated.

    Indeed, in the Tangi valley and throughout whole swaths of Maidan Wardak, the cult of martyrdom and the urge to fight an enemy regarded as apostate only appears to be on the rise.

    “If they have the idea that by killing one mujahid the ranks of the mujahideen will decrease, that’s wrong. I can tell you that when they kill one mujahid, from one drop of his blood Allah will make a thousand other mujahideen,” said Omari, 20, a member of the Taliban.

    “The mujahideen are all resisting with the help of the people who love Allah and want Allah’s law in the world. The work of jihad will continue until the end of days.”


    Maidan Wardak is just a 40-minute journey by road to the south-west of Kabul city. In recent years it has become a key battleground in the war because of this very proximity and the fact that one of the country’s main highways runs right through the province.

    With military supply convoys routinely attacked there and concern growing about the Taliban’s clear influence in such a strategically important location, hundreds of extra US troops were sent to the area soon after Barack Obama entered the White House.

    Security has since improved in the provincial capital, Maidan Shahr, but that has done little to discourage the insurgency.

    During a series of interviews conducted there and in Kabul over a two-month period, residents from all sides have claimed that heavy fighting is continuing elsewhere in Maidan Wardak as the rebels adapt their tactics in the face of US reinforcements. The government has denied this.

    Omari is from the district of Jaghatu and forms part of a unit of local young Taliban who come from across the province.

    Along with his colleagues, he seemed neither remotely tired of the bloodshed nor prepared to accept some kind of peace deal. Indeed, for all of them the only acceptable outcome to the war is an end to the occupation and the creation of a hard-line Islamic state.

    Nisar Ahmad Haymat, a fighter from Sayadabad district, also 20, spoke angrily about “Jews and Christians”, and accused foreign troops of being in Afghanistan to kill Muslims and steal its natural resources.

    “All the people in our area are happy with the mujahideen. You will not find any man in any village who has a problem with them,” he said.

    Although this statement carries the air of exaggeration, the insurgency does enjoy significant support and momentum in large parts of Afghanistan, including Maidan Wardak.

    A report published by the International Council on Security and Development, a European-based think tank, revealed that 74 per cent of those surveyed in Kandahar and Helmand provinces believed working with fore ign forces is wrong and 55 per cent accused the US and its allies of being here for their own benefit, to destroy or occupy the country, or to destroy Islam.

    The report added that 65 per cent of respondents want the Taliban’s spiritual leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar, to join the government.

    One resident of Maidan Wardak who does not back the insurgency is an unemployed engineer who asked to remain anonymous out of fear for his life. He lives in the Tangi Valley, the home of the former rebel commander Fazel Rabi.

    “The Taliban are not naturally strong, but they have become stronger because the government has not been able to fulfil its promises,” he said.

    According to the father of eight, the guerrillas have controlled his area with virtual impunity for the past three years.

    “They walk from day to night very freely. The people support them and those that don’t still have to live under their control because they don’t have the power to resist or run away,” he said.

    The governor of Maidan Wardak, Halim Fidai, however, painted an entirely different picture of the situation in the province.

    He insisted that security has drastically improved and claimed that elders and religious scholars have openly turned against the Taliban. He blamed the media for only reporting isolated incidents of bad news.

    “The enemy has been pushed towards the very far flank areas, the mountainous areas, and even there they cannot stay in one place,” he said.

  • #2
    Why people from northern afghanistan dont fight for freedom against the foreigners ?
    Intezar che pa salgo sho no ta raghley
    Che me jwand pa dobedo sho no ta raghley.....

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    • #3
      Good question.
      Currently there is more fighting going on in the north than in the south. (Kunduz, Baghlan, Badakhshan, Parwan) and even some parts of Panjsher.
      A part of it has to do with the amount of troops present in those provinces. Because, until recently most of those provinces were either NATO/ISAF-free. And even if there were some troops, they were mostly special forces resided in the government compounds etc. So, for people to fight an enemy, there had to be an enemy present.
      Although majority of the insurgency in the northern Afghanistan is fueled by the local Pashtun tribes living there, or the recent deployment of Taliban commanders from south to north. But there are some Uzbeks, Tajiks, very little Turkomen and believe it or not, Hazaras started ressisting recently in return for money. And, also the fact that if the central government collapses or NATO/ISAF leaves Afghanistan, the hazaras are going to get what they did in 1900s (after the departure of soviet troops)
      Originally posted by Sher Khan View Post
      Why people from northern afghanistan dont fight for freedom against the foreigners ?

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      • #4
        I said "Currently"
        combine the entire south and it's resistance and then compare it to that of north.
        NORTH just started to flame even higher.
        One thing we pashtuns have to realize that the world doesn't end where Pashtuns start/end.
        We cannot predict about an entire region based on CNN/BBC or some other puppet Afghan media source.

        Originally posted by rihana
        I disagree there is more figting in the South.

        Did you forget about Marjah offensive, Kandahar bombings, inocent southern Afghans dying.

        The south has suffered the most.

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        • #5
          Every pashtun has family in either south of kabul or east of kabul.
          do some research, at the moment as we speak. North is more distable compared to south.
          That hasn't been the case for the past 9 years but it is now.
          Originally posted by rihana
          I have family in the South.

          Taliban vs NATO is active as we speak.

          it just goes unreported. Provinces like Herat are more quiet if we compare them to Helmand and Kandahar.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rihana
            I have family in the South.

            Taliban vs NATO is active as we speak.

            it just goes unreported. Provinces like Herat are more quiet if we compare them to Helmand and Kandahar.
            What is common to all the provinces of Afghanistan where the terrorists are active? They all border the region which is under the de-facto control of the ISI and the Pakistan Army ie FATA and Balochistan, or in close proximity to these regions.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sher Khan View Post
              Why people from northern afghanistan dont fight for freedom against the foreigners ?
              They are not foreigners, they are Punjabis, your own brothers.

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              • #8
                Wallah dalta kho sakhta secularist aw kam aqal khalak dee. I have to flee from this bias non sense

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                • #9
                  More civilians and fighters die in North, South is used to and has adopted to chaos and daily clashes. Unlike south, north has been hit be a new emerging wave of violence with people not used to it and the fact that it's diverse and high populated.
                  The fight in south is mostly IEDs and typical guerrilla firefights, while the insurgents in the north and East are still practicing large scale battles, where most of the casualties are civilians and large number of rebels.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by shlombay
                    Malgariya, come to Kandahar and we do a survey to see if Pakistani elements are present in the current Taliban force.

                    These are ordinary Kandaharis who are now against the US and NATO like how we were against the Persians under the Hotakis of kandahar.
                    Malgariya, do not compare Mirwais Khan to the Qaam Kharsee clique called the Taliban or the you shall face the wrath of the Gods. The support of the ISI to the Taliban in Afghanistan is a widely-known fact. The Haqqanis are sitting comfortably in North Waziristan.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by shlombay
                      wrora da sa daraka ta dagha khabara ka ye che more die in the North?

                      Have you heard of all those innocent people Tajiks and Uzbeks alongside with NATO killed when the war started? where did all that offensive take place? In Panjsher? All this happened in the South and now the capital of Afghanistan during the Taliban era(Kandahar) is under attack.
                      Malgariya, have you heard of all the innocents killed by the Taliban and the SSP and JeM in Mazar and Bamyan in 1998?

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                      • #12
                        Oh I know there are Pakistanies fighting in Kandahar and helmand (i've seen their videos) , there are big squads of them. But, that doesn't go against the common believes of a Talib fighter. Islam is for everyone not only pashtuns or Afghans. I dont know, it might be different, but this is how I look at it.

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                        • #13
                          Oh and the other brother,
                          Don't get worked up, don't get offended. Agha da pashtano khabara
                          " be zaya ma ghwarza"
                          we are trying to have a discussion. We are speaking on a broader level..

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                          • #14
                            Hazaragan kho ye der sha wakral, musalmanan ba da agho ham na woo

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                            • #15
                              Yeah, actually our house was raided by the US forces twice in 2009.

                              I know where you coming from, this is what I think also.

                              But, this Tajik, Uzbek issue is totaly biased. The west doesn't want us to be one hand. I can assure you that if any of the minority in Afghanistan wants, they can create chaos and maybe even try to split Afghanistan.
                              A few cowards and corrupt elements like, Rabbani, Faheem, Masood and the list goes on, cannot represent an entire race. This is not islamic, one of the reasons why Afghanistan might never see peace is because of this bullcrap.
                              Also, just because one speak pashtu, doesn't mean they are sinless. Da wos de pa hokomat ke agha ghat chapalos da amrekey pashtun dai, da wos de tar tolo ghat jasos khpal Pashtun dai.
                              Now, I understand the importance of Pashtu being the national and only popular language of Afghanistan and I oppose those that doesn't think the same way.
                              But, that doesn't mean we shall turn our backs on truth. If we are going to have hope, it's going to be Allah SWT in ourselves.
                              Afghanistan was the graveyard of empires before even Islam existed, let alone Taliban aw da nor.
                              Afghanistan has been a mujahideen front for the past 1400 years, and it might not change ever.
                              Zaror nada chey pa har shee ke taleban ra wachawal shee aw bya da pashtu masala doi ta hes mohema na da aw na wa. Most of them oppose nationalism .
                              Originally posted by shlombay
                              Dear Zarawar,
                              Innocent people have picked up arms after they have seen Tajiks,Uzbeks and NATO disrespect them.

                              how would you feel If I storm your house in search of the Taliban at 4am when you are in bed with your wife and childrens sleeping?

                              Would you not feel offended? Malgariya I can provide sources that show that Taliban has public support now against NATO.


                              As a Pashtun from the south we have suffered. Malgariya dont give any value to these flogged videos which were ruled out to be fake. Good and bad are in all malgariya but NATO and Iranins we saw their benefits.

                              In Taliban era = Pashto spoken, Pashto used, Pashto everything.
                              Now = Dari spoken, Dari speeches and OATH in Dari.

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