Afghanistan on the verge of disintegration

[Zemaryalai]

Dears brothers,

I have been observing posts by many of the members in this forum and unfortunately we Pashtuns are still suffering from delusions and we have a difficult time accepting realities. I live inside Afghanistan, working with a NGO and what I can tell you is that the Pashtuns are losing everything because of our immature actions on the political arena. On the one side, The so-called Mujahideen in the south are tearing the whole social fabric of the Pashtuns with their terrorist acts and in Kabul we are being pushed out of the scene by tajiks. In the past 10 years the Tajiks and other ethnicities have successfully achieved so much that it is very hard for us to catch in a decade with them now. Most of them are literate today, most of the universities are owned by them, they have an educated elite and an intellectual class, their languages are flourishing, they are dominating the economy while we are busy killing ourselves for nothing. There is 60 private TV stations and only 4-5 of them are in Pashto. We are the majority but we will be turned into a minority if we do not stop this. Just a month ago, the Tajiks removed the word Afghan from the new ID cards and thousands of Tajiks marched on to the streets and shouted anti-pashtun slogans and openly revealed their hatred towards Afghan and Afghanistan. What did we do? we accepted their demands because of our weakness and vulnerability caused by us. If this continues, trust me, we will not have a Loy Afghanistan in the future but this piece of Afghanistan will be turned into a Khorasan soon. So wake up and smell the coffee and stop using your pseudo-pride and irrational nationalism to hide our crisis.

[Kushan Prince]

I've always told myself that this forum is not a good representatives of pashtuns at all. "Did you see the other thread on tajiks? most of them are choosing to side with tajiks and uzbeks first rather then their own pashtuns. They will be in denial when you show them something negative about tajiks and then they label you as "racist." Then when there are pashtuns on here that actually care about the survival of pashtun culture and language, they automatically get labelled as a "nationalist" or "racist." Just because we want pashto to be the main lingua franca in schools and offices, we get hated on. Heck you've got tajik trolls on here bashing pashtuns left and right and the mods tolerate it with ease.

To be quite honest, i've lost all hopes of our people due to a few individuals on here, the beghirati and cowardice of them is really disgusting. The problem with our people is that we are too nice and have already let the majority spoken language as farsi. All that has to happen is the name change or partition of this country.

I won't be surprised at all if a khorssan happens

[gadoonwal]

I've always told myself that this forum is not a good representatives of pashtuns at all. "Did you see the other thread on tajiks? most of them are choosing to side with tajiks and uzbeks first rather then their own pashtuns. They will be in denial when you show them something negative about tajiks and then they label you as "racist." Then when there are pashtuns on here that actually care about the survival of pashtun culture and language, they automatically get labelled as a "nationalist" or "racist." Just because we want pashto to be the main lingua franca in schools and offices, we get hated on. Heck you've got tajik trolls on here bashing pashtuns left and right and the mods tolerate it with ease.

To be quite honest, i've lost all hopes of our people due to a few individuals on here, the beghirati and cowardice of them is really disgusting. The problem with our people is that we are too nice and have already let the majority spoken language as farsi. All that has to happen is the name change or partition of this country.

I won't be surprised at all if a khorssan happens

Very well said wrora,
Here on this forum if you post something for the right of pashtu and pashtuns these members wASTE no time by calling you names.
This forum is tajik lover and pashtun hater.
even those who support pashtun unity are called pakis.
I always say pashtuns will be rule by others .
Pashtun look down up on pashtu.
pashtun hate eachothers
pashtun are abusive to eachother
pashtuns are emotinals
Every pashtun think he is a leader and thats what kill us too.
Pashtuns always fight other,s war and none-pashtun enjoyed up on our stupedity.

We must stop this blame game.It is not going to work for us anymore.
Will a tajik,punjabi,sindi,uzbiks and all other ethnicities will bomb schools and their people for others?
no
But pashtuns did it for the last many years and continue.
What make me realy up set is the flow of pashtuns from afghanistan to pashtunkhwa.I am not against them coming to their brother,s land.
We should help eachother in every difficult situation but why the pashtu speakers left their motherland to tajiks.
I met many pashtuns from our gandup camp in our area complaining of discrimination in afghanistan.
Many of them went back and were called pakis not only by tajiks but by their own pashtuns.
This is shame.
I am not surprised oneday they pushed back all pashtu speakers to the southren afghanistan.
Today the farsispeakers are in majority and this can be confirmed from the govt sources.

I met one kabuli girl and she said to me the talibs were pakis and i said ok and what els?
she said they were imposing paki language on us.
I asked what language and she said pashtu.
Took me one hour to explain to her that pashtu is the language afghans and pashtuns not pakis.Pakistan got more pashtu speakers cus the britishes divided us.
Still she could,nt change her mind on the afghan language.

If pashtun unite from amu to abaseen these people will leave afghanistan on their own choice,.We will not force them but this is what will happen.
They hate pashtu.
Our people are used and dumped.
These tajiks and punjabis can not stand to pashtuns but they control our minds.They know how to keep pashtun under control.
islamism of pakistan
and farsiwanism.
These to things killed us.
May allah help pashtu and pashtuns amin.

[Pakwatan]

Salaam,

As a Punjabi Pakistani,

I want to ask you guys some questions.

If the entire Afghanistan becomes Pashtun, and the language is Pashtun, then what is the next step of the nationalists?

I respect both Pashtun and Tajik people. Obviously I have more affinity towards Pashtun people because they are my people, but I have never dealt with a Tajik before. Many Tajiks insult Punjabis online, but I don't understand why? We have Tajiks in Pakistan in our northern areas and they are very polite. Why do Afghan Tajiks hate us Punjabis when we have never really had interaction?

Some Tajik members on this site try to highlight how they are Iranic people and use skin color as evidence of differentiating themselves from Punjabi. I would like to ask those Tajiks, that what makes you think we are dying to be farsiwans? You Tajiks are the second class Iranians that you worship, so why you think that we want to be close to you?

We have our own language, customs, jokes. Why do you think we are interested in you?


We are all Muslim after all, so why try to play the politics?

Honestly, I think Iranian people are the most disgraceful people on Earth. I don't understand why you guys want to emulate them. The Iranians I have met in US are all kaafirs. The wanna-be Muslims that drink through Ramzan, then pray Eid namaaz are the worst of all.

I have nothing against Tajik people, because I have never met one. But Pakistanis are all loyal to Pashtuns. We know they are the strong Muslims. So when you guys come on Pakistani websites to try to form alliances against them, I will let you know. Pakistanis support Pashtuns 100%. We will never trust you outsiders.

We can become very good friends, and also brothers, If you guys are willing to become brothers with Pashtuns. We must all become one. We are all Muslim. Leave this ****ty politics behind.

[Smarty]

Those literate tajiks would run away from afghanistan once civil war is started, the developments which they have achieved in their areas in past decade, could be ruined.

[Smarty]

Salaam,

As a Punjabi Pakistani,

I want to ask you guys some questions.

If the entire Afghanistan becomes Pashtun, and the language is Pashtun, then what is the next step of the nationalists?

I respect both Pashtun and Tajik people. Obviously I have more affinity towards Pashtun people because they are my people, but I have never dealt with a Tajik before. Many Tajiks insult Punjabis online, but I don't understand why? We have Tajiks in Pakistan in our northern areas and they are very polite. Why do Afghan Tajiks hate us Punjabis when we have never really had interaction?

Some Tajik members on this site try to highlight how they are Iranic people and use skin color as evidence of differentiating themselves from Punjabi. I would like to ask those Tajiks, that what makes you think we are dying to be farsiwans? You Tajiks are the second class Iranians that you worship, so why you think that we want to be close to you?

We have our own language, customs, jokes. Why do you think we are interested in you?


We are all Muslim after all, so why try to play the politics?

Honestly, I think Iranian people are the most disgraceful people on Earth. I don't understand why you guys want to emulate them. The Iranians I have met in US are all kaafirs. The wanna-be Muslims that drink through Ramzan, then pray Eid namaaz are the worst of all.

I have nothing against Tajik people, because I have never met one. But Pakistanis are all loyal to Pashtuns. We know they are the strong Muslims. So when you guys come on Pakistani websites to try to form alliances against them, I will let you know. Pakistanis support Pashtuns 100%. We will never trust you outsiders.

We can become very good friends, and also brothers, If you guys are willing to become brothers with Pashtuns. We must all become one. We are all Muslim. Leave this ****ty politics behind.

Pakistan had no choice but to support pashtuns (religous ones) in afghanistan because otherwise bar afghans would try to unite with lar afghans to achieve complete dominance over tajiks and other minorities. Afghanistan is unstable because two third of its pashtun population is in napakistan, borders needs to re-drawn.

[Pakwatan]

Pakistan had no choice but to support pashtuns (religous ones) in afghanistan because otherwise bar afghans would try to unite with lar afghans to achieve complete dominance over tajiks and other minorities. Afghanistan is unstable because two third of its pashtun population is in napakistan, borders needs to re-drawn.

So hypothetically lar and bar pashtuns come together. What is the next step?

That is what I am asking.

[DSM0305]

I want to ask you guys some questions.

If the entire Afghanistan becomes Pashtun, and the language is Pashtun, then what is the next step of the nationalists?
.

There will be no next step. Once Pashtuns are united and our national language is Pashto, we will then just try to build our country. People need to understand that Pashtuns aren't real nationalist, most of us just want to be united and preserve our language. Once that happen we will most likely become friendlier with our neighbors and wont interfere in other countries. Our main priority would then be to eradicate poverty and crime within our country.

[KGODB]

Dears brothers,

I have been observing posts by many of the members in this forum and unfortunately we Pashtuns are still suffering from delusions and we have a difficult time accepting realities. I live inside Afghanistan, working with a NGO and what I can tell you is that the Pashtuns are losing everything because of our immature actions on the political arena. On the one side, The so-called Mujahideen in the south are tearing the whole social fabric of the Pashtuns with their terrorist acts and in Kabul we are being pushed out of the scene by tajiks. In the past 10 years the Tajiks and other ethnicities have successfully achieved so much that it is very hard for us to catch in a decade with them now. Most of them are literate today, most of the universities are owned by them, they have an educated elite and an intellectual class, their languages are flourishing, they are dominating the economy while we are busy killing ourselves for nothing. There is 60 private TV stations and only 4-5 of them are in Pashto. We are the majority but we will be turned into a minority if we do not stop this. Just a month ago, the Tajiks removed the word Afghan from the new ID cards and thousands of Tajiks marched on to the streets and shouted anti-pashtun slogans and openly revealed their hatred towards Afghan and Afghanistan. What did we do? we accepted their demands because of our weakness and vulnerability caused by us. If this continues, trust me, we will not have a Loy Afghanistan in the future but this piece of Afghanistan will be turned into a Khorasan soon. So wake up and smell the coffee and stop using your pseudo-pride and irrational nationalism to hide our crisis.

the problem is the taliban. the taliban is the cancer within our body which has weakened us, and has prevented us from gaining strength and attacking and moving forward

you cannot blame the "other" for working for their own interests and being against us

[Badlun]

Dears brothers,

I have been observing posts by many of the members in this forum and unfortunately we Pashtuns are still suffering from delusions and we have a difficult time accepting realities. I live inside Afghanistan, working with a NGO and what I can tell you is that the Pashtuns are losing everything because of our immature actions on the political arena. On the one side, The so-called Mujahideen in the south are tearing the whole social fabric of the Pashtuns with their terrorist acts and in Kabul we are being pushed out of the scene by tajiks. In the past 10 years the Tajiks and other ethnicities have successfully achieved so much that it is very hard for us to catch in a decade with them now. Most of them are literate today, most of the universities are owned by them, they have an educated elite and an intellectual class, their languages are flourishing, they are dominating the economy while we are busy killing ourselves for nothing. There is 60 private TV stations and only 4-5 of them are in Pashto. We are the majority but we will be turned into a minority if we do not stop this. Just a month ago, the Tajiks removed the word Afghan from the new ID cards and thousands of Tajiks marched on to the streets and shouted anti-pashtun slogans and openly revealed their hatred towards Afghan and Afghanistan. What did we do? we accepted their demands because of our weakness and vulnerability caused by us. If this continues, trust me, we will not have a Loy Afghanistan in the future but this piece of Afghanistan will be turned into a Khorasan soon. So wake up and smell the coffee and stop using your pseudo-pride and irrational nationalism to hide our crisis.

Please remain active on this forum because you are inside Afghanistan and can give us the real picture with your first hand experience. Please do spare little time daily or weekly to be present here for meaningful discussions.

As earlier said by KGODB, the real problem is Taliban because they are Pashtuns. Non Pashtuns will definitely promote their linguistic, economic, cultural, political and other interests so we cannot complaint against them but the Pashtun Taliban and Islamists are really stabbing us to the death.

And then we have this Pakwatan kind of advisors who deceive us on the name of Muslim and Islam. Why he does not call him self Muslimwatan etc, why Pakwatan? Pak is a political identity. Similarly Afghan/Pashtun must try for their identity and due place in polity and society. Mullah is the worst enemy of Pashto, Pashtun and Pashtunwali.

[Khostai]

I've always told myself that this forum is not a good representatives of pashtuns at all. "Did you see the other thread on tajiks? most of them are choosing to side with tajiks and uzbeks first rather then their own pashtuns. They will be in denial when you show them something negative about tajiks and then they label you as "racist." Then when there are pashtuns on here that actually care about the survival of pashtun culture and language, they automatically get labelled as a "nationalist" or "racist." Just because we want pashto to be the main lingua franca in schools and offices, we get hated on. Heck you've got tajik trolls on here bashing pashtuns left and right and the mods tolerate it with ease.

To be quite honest, i've lost all hopes of our people due to a few individuals on here, the beghirati and cowardice of them is really disgusting. The problem with our people is that we are too nice and have already let the majority spoken language as farsi. All that has to happen is the name change or partition of this country.

I won't be surprised at all if a khorssan happens

people like you are also the problem supporting illiterate talibans and mullahs who destroy Pashtu language and culture. So please look first at your self.

[Kushan Prince]

people like you are also the problem supporting illiterate talibans and mullahs who destroy Pashtu language and culture. So please look first at your self.

Your'e a immature illiterate brat. I advise you from here on forth not to quote me again. You accuse members on here as taliban supporters and nationalists just because we care about the survival of pashto language.

Traitors like you should be jailed.

[vinyard80]

Dears brothers,

I have been observing posts by many of the members in this forum and unfortunately we Pashtuns are still suffering from delusions and we have a difficult time accepting realities. I live inside Afghanistan, working with a NGO and what I can tell you is that the Pashtuns are losing everything because of our immature actions on the political arena. On the one side, The so-called Mujahideen in the south are tearing the whole social fabric of the Pashtuns with their terrorist acts and in Kabul we are being pushed out of the scene by tajiks. In the past 10 years the Tajiks and other ethnicities have successfully achieved so much that it is very hard for us to catch in a decade with them now. Most of them are literate today, most of the universities are owned by them, they have an educated elite and an intellectual class, their languages are flourishing, they are dominating the economy while we are busy killing ourselves for nothing. There is 60 private TV stations and only 4-5 of them are in Pashto. We are the majority but we will be turned into a minority if we do not stop this. Just a month ago, the Tajiks removed the word Afghan from the new ID cards and thousands of Tajiks marched on to the streets and shouted anti-pashtun slogans and openly revealed their hatred towards Afghan and Afghanistan. What did we do? we accepted their demands because of our weakness and vulnerability caused by us. If this continues, trust me, we will not have a Loy Afghanistan in the future but this piece of Afghanistan will be turned into a Khorasan soon. So wake up and smell the coffee and stop using your pseudo-pride and irrational nationalism to hide our crisis.

You will take that dream to your graves, paki *******s. Disintegration? Keep dreaming.

Partition will never happen. NEVER.

[DSM0305]

You will take that dream to your graves, paki *******s. Disintegration? Keep dreaming.

Partition will never happen. NEVER.

I am really tired of your foul language. I respect your opinion and everyone is entitled to one, but stop with your insults. If you cant respect others, why should anyone respect you?

[vinyard80]

I am really tired of your foul language. I respect your opinion and everyone is entitled to one, but stop with your insults. If you cant respect others, why should anyone respect you?

Kill yourself, paki. If you don't like my language don't read it.

Manana.