TTP Commander, Adnan Rasheed killed by Pakistani forces

[gadoonwal]

Have your read or heard about the Swat operation by Pakistani army? Have you seen a single Talib after that operation? Swat operation is a model. If the army conducts the Waziristan Operation on the pattern of Swat, Taliban will be wiped out completely.

Do you remember when Afghan Taliban were the rulers of more than 90% of Afghanistan? Where are they now? In caves and mountains. Do they have now a legitimate rule or control over a single inch of Afghan land? No

If you think Taliban will be back after US withdrawal, and if it happens, it means US defeated them but Afghans cannot resist them. US cannot remain forever to keep Taliban at bay.

badlun saib,
Kindly do,nt misguide others here.
I respect you and your views but the swat operation was not a model.
ISI and army exposed there so they stop killing swatyans.
If you have time visit afzal khan lala in matta to know the game army played in swat.
The army was training terrorists in Gut pewchar in swat.They brought uzbiks and others to swat for training.Then they start this drama of sharia law and that was exposed too.
The US also demanded to set up base in swat so pakistan played this dirty game in swat for more then one reason.
Later when the army had no choice they transported terrorists back to waziristan.

[Badlun]

badlun saib,
Kindly do,nt misguide others here.
I respect you and your views but the swat operation was not a model.
ISI and army exposed there so they stop killing swatyans.
If you have time visit afzal khan lala in matta to know the game army played in swat.
The army was training terrorists in Gut pewchar in swat.They brought uzbiks and others to swat for training.Then they start this drama of sharia law and that was exposed too.
The US also demanded to set up base in swat so pakistan played this dirty game in swat for more then one reason.
Later when the army had no choice they transported terrorists back to waziristan.

You will be surprised my very dear brother that I have visited the hujra of Khan lala Afzal khan in Durishkhela many times and have met him personally and have discussed many such issues with him. I have also met some of his close relatives, his sons etc serving in Pakistan army. He is a great man but he being a federal minister of Pakistan in past and his close family members in Pakistan army make him a true Pakistani Pashtun leader not an Afghan or pure Pashtun leader.

If Swatians exposed the army designs then why Waziristanis do not do the same? I agree that there is a camp in Pak army and ISI who have sympathies with religious bigots because they are religiously fundamentalists or for money but this camp is now being cornered. New generation of Pak army is more of secular outlook, more Pakistani nationalists than pan Islamists or religious zealots. Waziristan need a Swat like operation so that we can get rid of these barbarian Pashtun and non Pashtun Taliban.

[gadoonwal]

You will be surprised my very dear brother that I have visited the hujra of Khan lala Afzal khan in Durishkhela many times and have met him personally and have discussed many such issues with him. I have also met some of his close relatives, his sons etc serving in Pakistan army. He is a great man but he being a federal minister of Pakistan in past and his close family members in Pakistan army make him a true Pakistani Pashtun leader not an Afghan or pure Pashtun leader.

If Swatians exposed the army designs then why Waziristanis do not do the same? I agree that there is a camp in Pak army and ISI who have sympathies with religious bigots because they are religiously fundamentalists or for money but this camp is now being cornered. New generation of Pak army is more of secular outlook, more Pakistani nationalists than pan Islamists or religious zealots. Waziristan need a Swat like operation so that we can get rid of these barbarian Pashtun and non Pashtun Taliban.

You are right to say that afzal khan is true pakistani pashtun.
Like wALI khan clearly wrote in his book that afzal khan,latif and afrasayab are isi agent.
My point was to know the different opinion of him too.
Also swatians did,nt exposed paki army.
They were so scared of paki army untill this day.
The army and talib exposed when the deal was ready to impose sharia and just oneday later fazlullah backed up, up on the order of pak army.
When sufi mamad was addressing the crowed in mingora whether to accept the deal or not a sucide bomber was ready and aslo isi planted bombs around the ground.The old man have no choice but to reject it.
Few time when i visited there the locals asked me not to say such thing in public cus the ,,isi,, agenst are spread everywhere.
Swat is settle area is it was not possible for them to continue this for long time.
I have asked these question from pashtun army officers and even some low rank ,,isi,,agents.
TTP is nothing but isi and army owned criminals.

[gadoonwal]

All of the above,badlun sb
Fazlullah ,s wife and children are living in islam abad in safe house.
He will be killed at some stage cus isi do not allow such people to live for a long .
He has got secrets and can exposed paki army but so far he is a loyal paki agent.
Remember when the army was transporting the spokesman of ttp from swat to peshwar .I forgot his name .He was killed by ,,secret isi agent,,,near sher garh mardan.
The reason for his killing was to keep him shut forever.
isi use these tools and then killed them.
You will be surprised that on one side the ,,isi,,funding and training these animals and on another side army killing them .
This is well planed war by pakistani ,isi,,and very organised.
I ruequest to all brothers here not to fall into these basles claims that ttp turned against pak army.
These ttp criminals can not fire a single bullet in the air without isi,s order.
In waziristan they forced out the local papulation so they can continue this game.
These ttp criminals are having lunch and tea together with army.
The haqani network operating in wazristan where they get weapons and training from army and fight in afghanistan.
I challange anyone here to go to waziristan where talibs operating under the command of napak army.
To make fool of the world the army bombed few houses in waziristan and kill innocents pashtuns.
I have mehsood friend and his brother was killed by army for speaking against ttp.
pakistani army is far worst then isrealis and US.
They are treating pashtuns like wild animals.

[Badlun]

Bravo ISI that they have made millions of Pashtuns as their tools. It means the so called bravery of Pashtuns is a farce because if they were really brave, they would not be used, abused and misused by others. I salute to ISI to enslave a whole nation and the nation is ready to be their tools.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Badlun reveals his true colors ....now you just have to reveal OPENLY that you're actually trying to undermine Islam.

[Badlun]

Badlun reveals his true colors ....now you just have to reveal OPENLY that you're actually trying to undermine Islam.

My above comment in connection with ISI and Pashtuns was a satire. I do not blame ISI to enslave Pashtuns but the Pashtuns themselves who let others to play with them. But this was a political discussion not religious. I do not know where from you derived this conclusion of my true colors.

I have clarified it many timesthat I am not against the religion of Islam but against Islamism. I believe in one God, prayers, fasting, zakat, hajj etc. I accept the moral and spiritual injunctions of Islam. I am against the rule of Mullahs and Islamists. I am not in favor of mixing politics, culture, economy, society, education etc with religion. This is my true color.