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  • Whats wrong with Loy Afghanistan?

    Hello

    When Afghans use the term Loy Afghanistan they mean this:



    But what is wrong with this map?

    And why isn't it Loy Afghanistan?

    I will give you some answers now.

    Did you know that Afghanistan, before the Durand line was created claimed Gorno-Badakhsan?

    We fought several wars over that area, sacrificed thousands of soldiers.

    And now our brothers forget to continue or claim for that area, is that how we honor our fellow countrymen, who died for that case.

    So from now on, when you decide to put a map of Loy Afghanistan up, be damn sure that this area is included:



    2. Did you know that back in 1885 The City of Mary was a part of Afghanistan.

    Our forces where massacred by the Russian, so next time you should also include all the land up to the city of Mary.



    Thanks.

  • #2
    Originally posted by LeSpartan View Post
    Hello

    When Afghans use the term Loy Afghanistan they mean this:



    But what is wrong with this map?

    And why isn't it Loy Afghanistan?

    I will give you some answers now.

    Did you know that Afghanistan, before the Durand line was created claimed Gorno-Badakhsan?

    We fought several wars over that area, sacrificed thousands of soldiers.

    And now our brothers forget to continue or claim for that area, is that how we honor our fellow countrymen, who died for that case.

    So from now on, when you decide to put a map of Loy Afghanistan up, be damn sure that this area is included:



    2. Did you know that back in 1885 The City of Mary was a part of Afghanistan.

    Our forces where massacred by the Russian, so next time you should also include all the land up to the city of Mary.



    Thanks.

    Der shaa! Manana wroora for this information!
    To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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    • #3
      LOL

      i thought you ment the member "loy afghanistan" , he is suffering from identity crisis.

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      • #4
        That is just Pashtun nationalism at its finest. None of those parts were ever part of a previous afghan empire nor was it ruled by any pashtun ruler.

        Look i'm all for a Loy Afghanistan but you guys are taking it too far, there are no ethnic pashtuns in gorno-badakshan nor in mary. Just stop this, this is making us look worse than persian nationalists.
        Last edited by Kushan Prince; 01-12-2014, 01:28 PM.
        "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

        -Old Pashtun proverb




        "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
          That is just Pashtun nationalism at its finest. None of those parts were ever part of a previous afghan empire nor was it ruled by any pashtun ruler.

          Look i'm all for a Loy Afghanistan but you guys are taking it too far, there are no ethnic pashtuns in gorno-badakshan nor in mary. Just stop this, this is making us look worse than persian nationalists.
          Now it does nothing that a Pashtun ruler hasn't ruled the areas.

          What i am saying is Afghans have fought and died in order to keep those areas, as a part of our country, whey before the Durand line was created.

          These areas were our nation's top priority when the Durand line wasn't there.

          But it seems that with the Durand line, we forgot our other interest as well, because of a bigger threat to our nation.

          Afghanistan should be as big as Iran when it comes to land mass, in order to be a important and strong regional player again.

          there are several benefits of taking Mary back.

          1. our population will increase, which is needed to be strong and to secure growth
          2. Mary and the area are good agricultural lands, with a massive output.

          How will you feed Loy Afghanistan, without huge agricultural areas?

          3. the area holds vast gas and oil reserves.
          4. our border with the rest of Turkmenistan will become easier to control, because it will be natural, the Amu Darya.

          Taking Gorno-Badakhsan back will mean.

          1. huge mineral deposits = future growth
          2. Tourist opportunities
          3. bigger border with China = economic growth and more trade.
          4. an end to the isolation of Wakhan.

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          • #6
            Afghans can not improve their lives and keep safe their current borders.. and you guys are talking about "loy x" and start a new war against Turkemenistan, Tajikistan and Iran. Hilarious.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by LeSpartan View Post
              Now it does nothing that a Pashtun ruler hasn't ruled the areas.

              What i am saying is Afghans have fought and died in order to keep those areas, as a part of our country, whey before the Durand line was created.

              These areas were our nation's top priority when the Durand line wasn't there.

              But it seems that with the Durand line, we forgot our other interest as well, because of a bigger threat to our nation.

              Afghanistan should be as big as Iran when it comes to land mass, in order to be a important and strong regional player again.

              there are several benefits of taking Mary back.

              1. our population will increase, which is needed to be strong and to secure growth
              2. Mary and the area are good agricultural lands, with a massive output.

              How will you feed Loy Afghanistan, without huge agricultural areas?

              3. the area holds vast gas and oil reserves.
              4. our border with the rest of Turkmenistan will become easier to control, because it will be natural, the Amu Darya.

              Taking Gorno-Badakhsan back will mean.

              1. huge mineral deposits = future growth
              2. Tourist opportunities
              3. bigger border with China = economic growth and more trade.
              4. an end to the isolation of Wakhan.
              I'm not sure about minerals being in badakshan but there were minerals and recently lithium found in the south and eastern afghanistan. According to this article i read, if afghans mine that lithium, they could become one of the richest countries in the world. The north in general has no natural resources (i'm from the north so trust me on this) other than gas but thats in sheberghan. Northern Afghanistan is already good for agriculture and farming so we don't need to go beyond the amu darya and take peoples land. Pashtun land stops at the oxus in NA it doesn't go beyond it.

              Pashtuns need education to progress so we can make our country a better place, not useless isolated land.
              "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

              -Old Pashtun proverb




              "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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              • #8
                afghans can't even control the territory within their borders, let alone ethnic afghan areas outside of afghanistan, now you want to claim what is basically russias backyard now? lol reaching for the stars aren't you.
                There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                Sayyid Qutb

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                • #9
                  To fool the nation politicians play such tactics.

                  I will give you a few examples..

                  While in Rawalpindi massacare a month earlier the interior minister of Pakistan coined the Musharraf Trial issue.

                  When something is going wrong they will coin in Kalabagh dam issue.

                  And same is the case of Loy Afghanistan/Pakhtoonistan!

                  We need to make a priority list of all our problems and tackle them one by one! I am sure when you will make a priority list this 'Loy Afghanistan' agenda will not be on the first page!
                  yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
                    To fool the nation politicians play such tactics.

                    I will give you a few examples..

                    While in Rawalpindi massacare a month earlier the interior minister of Pakistan coined the Musharraf Trial issue.

                    When something is going wrong they will coin in Kalabagh dam issue.

                    And same is the case of Loy Afghanistan/Pakhtoonistan!

                    We need to make a priority list of all our problems and tackle them one by one! I am sure when you will make a priority list this 'Loy Afghanistan' agenda will not be on the first page!
                    khudai rawala pakhtunistana
                    united pashtun areas that would be great a dream.

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                    • #11
                      wow thanks for sharing

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                        afghans can't even control the territory within their borders, let alone ethnic afghan areas outside of afghanistan, now you want to claim what is basically russias backyard now? lol reaching for the stars aren't you.
                        you cant even go to toilet without crapping on your own floor dont think everyone is like you, some people has the power the will to crap the right way directly on your mother.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Khilji View Post
                          you cant even go to toilet without crapping on your own floor dont think everyone is like you, some people has the power the will to crap the right way directly on your mother.
                          What about you loser? What have you done for afghanistan or pashtun people? You are just barking behind your computer. You are a loser and you know it. Keep barking coward.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Khilji View Post
                            you cant even go to toilet without crapping on your own floor dont think everyone is like you, some people has the power the will to crap the right way directly on your mother.
                            i don't even know what that means. i assume its supposed to mean that afghanistan is going to become some superpower that not only dismantles pakistan but china and russias client, tajikistan, therefore russia.

                            so we are going to take land from pakistan, russia, and china. yeah that makes sense. what the


                            imagine if all nations took claim over land that they once controlled no matter how brief in history lol iran would have claim over afg, so would the british, the russians, hell even saudi arabia. imagine afghans claiming pakistan along with indians, the brits, modern day mughals, iran, and whoever was there in the past.
                            Last edited by randolph85; 01-15-2014, 07:13 PM.
                            There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                            Sayyid Qutb

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                              i don't even know what that means.
                              yeah i know ....

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