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  • #16
    Originally posted by vinyard80 View Post
    That might be true one decade ago. Now we are facing a different game.

    1. Most of islamist lost their interest for afghanistan.
    2. Talibans know very well that if they want to reach an agreement with USA and NA, they must stop backing al qaeda. Its a fact that most of jihadist left afghanistan many years ago. Even Obama, Biden and John Kerry said once that "we did not go to afghanistan to kick out talibans but arabs. Talibans are not our enemies". Obama: “Taliban not an enemy of the U.S.”
    3. Talibans are backed, supported and financed by Arabia Saudi and Pakistan with money, weapons and military instructors. Thats obvious.
    4. Taliban movement has changed a lot since 2001. Now they are becoming even a pasthun nationalist movement and not only an Islamist-jihadi movement.
    First of all, the name ''NA'' (Northern Alliance) is a Paki invention to fool the world that in Afghanistan it´s about Pashtuns vs non-Pashtuns while we made 1/3 of NA. Never promote or use that word ''northern alliance'' or you please ISI dogs. So please, use the correct name.

    If Taliban is a Pashtun nationalist movement why majority of them are Pakistani citizen and why do they kill Pashtuns, burn our schools, hospitals, why they use our society as their shield? You claim doesn´t make sense. The Taliban are closely cooperating with Panjabi groups, with Uzbek terrorists, Tajiks and Arabs. Go ask a Waziri! You contradict yourself again by accusing them for being supported by Saudi-Arabia and Pakistan. The Taliban can not just negotiate with US without accepting conditions, condituons they strictly oppose like human-rights, righst for women, schools for girls, hospitals, foreign NGO´s. Maybe your point would be meaningful if we would talk about the old generation of the Taliban who are killed or imprisoned and now knowing better the game. But the current Taliban movement is a more radical fundamentalist Jihadist movement. They already calls for Andalusia. Stop fooling yourself, stop fooling us, stop fooling the world.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Bost Bastan News View Post
      First of all, the name ''NA'' (Northern Alliance) is a Paki invention to fool the world that in Afghanistan it´s about Pashtuns vs non-Pashtuns while we made 1/3 of NA. Never promote or use that word ''northern alliance'' or you please ISI dogs. So please, use the correct name.

      If Taliban is a Pashtun nationalist movement why majority of them are Pakistani citizen and why do they kill Pashtuns, burn our schools, hospitals, why they use our society as their shield? You claim doesn´t make sense. The Taliban are closely cooperating with Panjabi groups, with Uzbek terrorists, Tajiks and Arabs. Go ask a Waziri! You contradict yourself again by accusing them for being supported by Saudi-Arabia and Pakistan. The Taliban can not just negotiate with US without accepting conditions, condituons they strictly oppose like human-rights, righst for women, schools for girls, hospitals, foreign NGO´s. Maybe your point would be meaningful if we would talk about the old generation of the Taliban who are killed or imprisoned and now knowing better the game. But the current Taliban movement is a more radical fundamentalist Jihadist movement. They already calls for Andalusia. Stop fooling yourself, stop fooling us, stop fooling the world.

      Most of talibans are pakis? lol Can you prove that? As far as I know there are taliban pockets in every corner of afghanistan. They could not penetrate into non pashtun communities and now they are mainly a rural pashtun movement. Go to west afghanistan: most of talibansa re from shindand and adraskan where most of population is pashtuns. In Badghis most of talibans are in Murghab. In Mazar around Chahar Bolak, in Parwn mainly in Adamkhel,..etc-

      BTW you are right about NA.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by vinyard80 View Post
        Most of talibans are pakis? lol Can you prove that? As far as I know there are taliban pockets in every corner of afghanistan. They could not penetrate into non pashtun communities and now they are mainly a rural pashtun movement. Go to west afghanistan: most of talibansa re from shindand and adraskan where most of population is pashtuns. In Badghis most of talibans are in Murghab. In Mazar around Chahar Bolak, in Parwn mainly in Adamkhel,..etc-

        BTW you are right about NA.
        But there are ISI and NDS infiltration in the Taliban and vise versa.

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        • #19
          Hamid Gul is the chief of Talibans.He control all of them no matter anywhere in afghanistan or pakistan.
          ISI is deeply involved in afghanistan and tribals.
          The afghan-talibans may not be all pakistanis but a large number of them are .
          In noristan they control a large area where they operating and most of them are from the east.
          Without pakistani support and weapons they can not continue this war.
          Not only pakistan the saudis and china are also involved.



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          • #20
            Originally posted by khushal View Post
            But there are ISI and NDS infiltration in the Taliban and vise versa.
            True.

            Believe me people that talibans despite being a bunch of wild animals they will give a lesson to Pakistan. Pakistan has been playing with fire too long. Taliban are becoming every day stronger in Pakhtunwah. Just wait and see.

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            • #21
              this story seems to be based on very obscure sources.
              Originally posted by Firdousi
              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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              • #22


                Look at these Pakistanis fighting in the Afghan civil war
                @EvilPakistani @Da Bannu Mazdigar

                I wouldn't mind pashtuns of pak fighting in Afghanistan but why are there punjabis, sindhis etc?
                Last edited by badmash_khel; 01-06-2014, 07:40 PM.

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                • #23
                  i still hope that no civilwar like in iraq will break out in afghanistan but we will see when the nato leaves.

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