Attention Pakistani Pathans: regarding Durand Line

[abassinafghan]

@ kandolake farsisaban

The Durani rulers never spoke Pashto and preferred Farsi as the official language. The reason why Pashto obtained some prominence as a language over the course of the 20th century was because the Duranis used Pashtuns as a fighting force to remain in power. For that, they needed to fool people and make them believe they represent Pashtuns.

tell your fairy tells some ones else .

[vinyard80]

@ kandolake farsisaban



tell your fairy tells some ones else .

Those are not fairy tales. Those are facts. Its just a fact that Ahmad Shah Durrani preferred farsi language over pashtun language. After all, farsi always has been lingua franca in middle east, central asia and india.

You can not compara pashto with farsi.

[abassinafghan]

right and ahmad shah baba , didnt right any poetry in pashto !!!

son , those men were not ali jinnah or iqbal .

[vinyard80]

right and ahmad shah baba , didnt right any poetry in pashto !!!

son , those men were not ali jinnah or iqbal .

Ahmad Shah Durrani was a pashtun and a pashtospeaker. BUt he promoted farsi language and culture just like most of pashtun rulers in afghanistan.

[abassinafghan]

he promoted anything son.

i find it highly funny how tajokes, ubakz, and napakis try to tell us what and how we are , meanwhile the very same people lack any sense for their own history.

i know where your farsisaban ass come from , or your punjabi ass .

i guess the pashtun lat still hurts you .

[gadoonwal]

First of all ,,shamlawar,,your name khurasani is an iranian name .
Your parsibans still call afghanistan ,,khurasan,,,.
So it make me laugh a parsiban teaching history to pashtu speaking pashtuns.
Get some life.You are persainized kabalai with no policy or plan for pashtun unity.
The 4 millions or more pashtu speaking pashtuns from afghanistan already settled down in pashtunkhwa and that number is growing.
Pashtunkhwa is belong to pashtuns and not to some sell out parsibans .
Untill you people speak parso and working like loyal servants of tajik and uzbiks there will be no unity with your side.
Pashtuns in pashtunkhwa will go for azad pakhtunistan rather then joining farsiwanistan of khurasanis.
Your amir and people enjoyed up on the british pound paid to you for selling pashtunland.
One of the reason of siging durand was to decrease pashtu speakers in afghanistan.Abdurahman and duranis were tajikpied or i should say a branch of persains,they did this to protect persains agaisnt pashtuns and get british pound.Very few kabalis knew that amir abdurahman was the founder of modren afghanistan and name.
Even ahmad shah abdali himself was influenced by persains and none of his family ever talk in pashtu.
In fact timor shah try to impose parsi on pashtunkhwa but he failed.
The ghilzais are pashtu speaking disadvantage people.
They do not recognise duranis as true pashtuns since most duranis adopted persain culture and language.
The duranis are allied with tajiks and others since the creation of afghanistan.
Their allaince is based on to keep ghilzais and pashtu speakers out of power.
The duranis are playing dirty politics to stay in power.
I can throw more light on the durani-ghilzai issue but for the sake pashtun unity we better not discuss this.
Did you khurasani knew that how bacha saqa came into power?
Pashtu speaking in afghanistan are disadvantage people and always look down up on by persaisn and their awlad half breed.
I hope oneday we unite all pashtuns under true pashtun state and teach some listens to these half breed and persains.


ALL of the above khurasani is living in the west enjoying up on dole money of holandistan and teaching us wahabyath and pashtunwali.
may allah protect holy pashtu and pashtuns from wahabis of holandistan.

[vinyard80]

he promoted anything son.

i find it highly funny how tajokes, ubakz, and napakis try to tell us what and how we are , meanwhile the very same people lack any sense for their own history.

i know where your farsisaban ass come from , or your punjabi ass .

i guess the pashtun lat still hurts you .

I am not "parsiban". And if I was tajik, there is nothing wrong with that. They are our fellow countrymens and I love them as much as I love my own people.

250 of pashtun rule in our land and they have not been able to write a single book in pashto, except pata khazana, which is rejected by most of scholars around the world. and you guys are proud of our rulers? They are a shame for all afghans, regardless their ethnic background.

[gadoonwal]

Abdul Rahman Khan was just another Mullah Omar. He forced people from Kafiristan to become muslims, he killed half population of hazeras, moved thousand of pashtuns to west and north of afghanistan oppressing tajiks and he took brit money to kill his own pashtun ghilzai brothers and sold half of our country to brits. How a dog like this can be considered a good ruler?

He killed many hazaras right but never oppressed tajik.He himself was farsiwan with some conection to pashtun origin.
He knew nothing about pashtu and pashtunwali.
He forced pashtuns to the north and west for punishment not for some pashtunization.
He punished ghilzais not duranis.

[gadoonwal]

I am not "parsiban". And if I was tajik, there is nothing wrong with that. They are our fellow countrymens and I love them as much as I love my own people.

250 of pashtun rule in our land and they have not been able to write a single book in pashto, except pata khazana, which is rejected by most of scholars around the world. and you guys are proud of our rulers? They are a shame for all afghans, regardless their ethnic background.

very well said zwana

[vinyard80]

He killed many hazaras right but never oppressed tajik.He himself was farsiwan with some conection to pashtun origin.
He knew nothing about pashtu and pashtunwali.
He forced pashtuns to the north and west for punishment not for some pashtunization.
He punished ghilzais not duranis.

Oh God... abdul rahman khan tajik? are you kidding me? can you prove that?

He settled many pashtuns in west and north afghanistan because he did not trust those peoples. Most of pashtuns in those areas are living next to the borders: in heart next to iran (eslam qala) turkemenistan (toorghondi), in kunduz next to tajik border, in balkh in charbolak next to uzbekistan,.. etc. obviously not all of them were moved to there in order to pashtunize those areas. many of them were punished by him, i do agree with you on that.

[gadoonwal]

A true leader would have sent all his men to liberate the Pashtun tribes. Instead he signed the Durand Line treaty, and effectively sold them out, for 12000 lakh Rupee per year, Enfield rifles, and cannons. You could call him the original Karzai

very true.
A gerati zwan will die for his land.Abdrahman and his gang signed the agreement for pounds.
How can they ask for durand when they sold their namos to britishes.
The pashtun of east knew what they did.
It is shame that the same people are runing like goats to pashtunkhwa for food and shelter.
I would say the pashtunkhwa people are the true pashtuns.They still give them shelter and food.
Today the same people are begging for paki id card in peshawar and queta.
Where is namos and gerat.
We have faced many bad situation but never asked them for helped and they never helped us.
On the other side the tajiks and uzbiks defend their land against pakistan while these half breed once again sold their gerat to punjabis.
The gulbudin,haqanis etc are runing like dogs after punjabis to return to power in afghanistan.
They have killed their patriotic leader for punjabis.

[randolph85]

shamlawar, I am interested in reading your thoughts on how you thought Abdur Rahman Khan should of behaved during his reign in regards to the British.

I ask this because while I am opposed to his domestic policies regarding ethnic cleansing, Pashtun to Hazara, I have a hard time seeing the alternative options he had when it came to the relationship with the British.

I will give him credit for consolidating the governments control over the whole of Afghanistan while not socially trying to transform the culture of the people unlike Amanullah.

[gadoonwal]

Oh God... abdul rahman khan tajik? are you kidding me? can you prove that?

He settled many pashtuns in west and north afghanistan because he did not trust those peoples. Most of pashtuns in those areas are living next to the borders: in heart next to iran (eslam qala) turkemenistan (toorghondi), in kunduz next to tajik border, in balkh in charbolak next to uzbekistan,.. etc. obviously not all of them were moved to there in order to pashtunize those areas. many of them were punished by him, i do agree with you on that.

ok,He was persain speaking with persain -pashtun mixed blood.He knew nothing about pashtu and pashtunwali and never spoke a single word of pashtu.
He punished ghilzais/pashtu speakers and foced them to the north and other part of afghanistan.
His ancesters were barakzais but he himself was more farsibans then tajiks.
You can say zahir khan moved some pashtuns to the north to keep the country under his control.
He did it to stay in power not for some pashtunization.
He used pashtuns for his family rule and kept pashtun backward.

[Khilji]

ok,He was persain speaking with persain -pashtun mixed blood.He knew nothing about pashtu and pashtunwali and never spoke a single word of pashtu.
He punished ghilzais/pashtu speakers and foced them to the north and other part of afghanistan.
His ancesters were barakzais but he himself was more farsibans then tajiks.
You can say zahir khan moved some pashtuns to the north to keep the country under his control.
He did it to stay in power not for some pashtunization.
He used pashtuns for his family rule and kept pashtun backward.

so that the british raj and the sikhs ruled your peshawar and fata long time before amir abdur rahman khan was on power is the fault of abdur rahman khan?that you pathans in fata the british colonial name accepted british rule in your area was also not abdur rahman khans fault and the british empire became this area with their political tricks divide and rule.that the afghans tried to become peshawar and fata back from the british colonialists at that time is clear they tried it many times and faught at last against pathan tribes that fightet for the british empire against afghans but amir abdur rahman khan did the best job he safed afghanistan you cant blame him for that.

[Khilji]

very true.
A gerati zwan will die for his land.Abdrahman and his gang signed the agreement for pounds.
How can they ask for durand when they sold their namos to britishes.
The pashtun of east knew what they did.
It is shame that the same people are runing like goats to pashtunkhwa for food and shelter.
I would say the pashtunkhwa people are the true pashtuns.They still give them shelter and food.
Today the same people are begging for paki id card in peshawar and queta.
Where is namos and gerat.
We have faced many bad situation but never asked them for helped and they never helped us.
On the other side the tajiks and uzbiks defend their land against pakistan while these half breed once again sold their gerat to punjabis.
The gulbudin,haqanis etc are runing like dogs after punjabis to return to power in afghanistan.
They have killed their patriotic leader for punjabis.

abdur rahman khan safed afghanistan from beeing british colonial like you people in fata and the area today pakistan already was yara you as a fata pakistani should be proud of this great afghanleader that he massacred ghilzai there is no proof in that story i say that as a khilji pashtun but that abdur rahman khan supported the islamisation of afghanistan and the pashtunisation is fact.
i like this afghan king very much cant understand your lies and fake storys.