Should the OIC be converted into a Military UNION?

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Converting it into a military Union will bring many Good to Muslim countries

*Only muslim countries should be allowed to invade Muslim countries
*West will remain isolated from invading any muslim countries
*Muslim countries will have a Greater Say in the World Politics
*OIC as a whole should ask for a permanent membership of UN,Right now their is no muslim country as a permanent member in UN
*Instead of taking loans from IMF,ADB and World Bank.Together a Bank should be made to give off loans to Needed countries
*A Joint military industries should be made to develop All sort of weapons under a mutual funding and later sold to Muslim states..Today No Muslim countries develop Sophisticated Weapons like those in the west and in War time the muslim countries are not provided the support or spares.
*OIC when becomes strong.Turkey,KSA,Iran and Pakistan Should be called Nuclear states
*Gulf countries donates alot of petro dollars for political interest instead of this a NGO's kind a firm should be created to provide financial support to Poor Muslim countries
*Joint armed forces exercises should be held for greater and closer military relations between all the muslim countries

The organisation states that it is "the collective voice of the Muslim world" and works to "safeguard and protect the interests of the Muslim world in the spirit of promoting international peace and harmony

Organisation of Islamic Cooperation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[DSM0305]

I am sorry to tell you, but I don't think anyone want to breath the same air Pakis are breathing. No one knows how your Paki disease transmit yet. Better be save than sorry.

[Al-Afghani]

Never going to work, there are too many Sunni-Shia differences.

[Karachi]

Muslims are the most divided people on earth, they will never agree on anything

[Badlun]

Tell me a single great achievement of OIC in the past so many decades till today in any other field that now you are making it a military union.

The only effective organizations in the world are UN, ASEAN, EU, NATO and few others which are not based on religion. Religion is for person or maximum for family not for nations. Do you see any international Christian or Jewish or Hindu organization on the pattern of OIC?

OIC should be completely disbanded. It has no role. It just sucks blood of tax money of poor masses of Muslim countries. We should encourage organizations like ECO, SAARC, D-8 etc not religion based white elephants like OIC, which only serves for O I See!

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

I am sorry to tell you, but I don't think anyone want to breath the same air Pakis are breathing. No one knows how your Paki disease transmit yet. Better be save than sorry.

everyone is entitled to his own opinion.

Which i respect kabuli

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Tell me a single great achievement of OIC in the past so many decades till today in any other field that now you are making it a military union.

The only effective organizations in the world are UN, ASEAN, EU, NATO and few others which are not based on religion. Religion is for person or maximum for family not for nations. Do you see any international Christian or Jewish or Hindu organization on the pattern of OIC?

OIC should be completely disbanded. It has no role. It just sucks blood of tax money of poor masses of Muslim countries. We should encourage organizations like ECO, SAARC, D-8 etc not religion based white elephants like OIC, which only serves for O I See!

While i do admit Military union should not be formed on the basis of religion But take Muslim countries as europe.

Such Military union will bring them closer

[Badlun]

While i do admit Military union should not be formed on the basis of religion But take Muslim countries as europe.

Such Military union will bring them closer

Talk about the facts. I requested for the past achievements of OIC. If it was failed in other areas how it will be effective in defence?

Interests of Pakistan or even Afghanistan lies more with non Muslim India and China and then with non Muslim USA, EU, Japan, Korea, Brazil, South Africa, Canada, Australia etc than Muslim Somalia, Chad, Senegal and Mali for example.

With important Muslim countries like Saudi, Malaysia, Turkey etc we do not need OIC. We can have bilateral relations with them and also can use multilateral flora like UN, Asean, Arab League(being observer) etc.

Gone are the days of religious alliances. Religion is for mosque not for international politics.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Talk about the facts. I requested for the past achievements of OIC. If it was failed in other areas how it will be effective in defence?

Interests of Pakistan or even Afghanistan lies more with non Muslim India and China and then with non Muslim USA, EU, Japan, Korea, Brazil, South Africa, Canada, Australia etc than Muslim Somalia, Chad, Senegal and Mali for example.

With important Muslim countries like Saudi, Malaysia, Turkey etc we do not need OIC. We can have bilateral relations with them and also can use multilateral flora like UN, Asean, Arab League(being observer) etc.

Gone are the days of religious alliances. Religion is for mosque not for international politics.

Listing them from the link below

Organisation of Islamic Cooperation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

*So far Under OIC 18million refugees were hosted
*Agressive stance on the cartoons incident of Muhammad(pbuh),More info click on the linj
*Dispute and agressive behavior against thailand for Muslims facing Human rights abuses with Thailand
*Has on many occasiion declared Kashmir as a disputed and occupied territory

Under OIC many grants were made to other muslim states in need of Money.

OIC doesnt force us to stop relation with china or india or any other non muslim states.though it does help us to get closer to Muslim countries and for more corporation

[Badlun]

When we talk of facts and figures, Wikipedia is not always a good source. However if you dig further you will see that the refugees were hosted not by OIC but by Muslim countries as part of UNHCR not because of the platform of OIC. OIC has no mechanism for hosting refugees. I work in UN and I know it.

Bannu, you have very good ideas and intentions but please think over the role of religion seriously. Religion is for faith not for politics. This is called secularism. If you are a secularist you cannot talk of OIC.

Your examples of Thailand and Kashmir are redundant. Do you think the issues of Thailand or Kashimr are resolved? Just statements no solutions.

Forget about the petty issues. What is the role of OIC in current problems in the Muslim world like poverty, illiteracy, terrorism and crises in Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Mali, CAR, and in the past in Bosnia. OIC is a paper tiger nothing else.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

When we talk of facts and figures, Wikipedia is not always a good source. However if you dig further you will see that the refugees were hosted not by OIC but by Muslim countries as part of UNHCR not because of the platform of OIC. OIC has no mechanism for hosting refugees. I work in UN and I know it.

Bannu, you have very good ideas and intentions but please think over the role of religion seriously. Religion is for faith not for politics. This is called secularism. If you are a secularist you cannot talk of OIC.

Your examples of Thailand and Kashmir are redundant. Do you think the issues of Thailand or Kashimr are resolved? Just statements no solutions.

Forget about the petty issues. What is the role of OIC in current problems in the Muslim world like poverty, illiteracy, terrorism and crises in Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Mali, CAR, and in the past in Bosnia. OIC is a paper tiger nothing else.

OIC contribution might be limited but can be made robust.A military union will indirectly make them in Inevitable

I have never Taken OIC just because of it being Muslim.But because a platform already exist and it will bring many countries closer.

[Badlun]

OIC contribution might be limited but can be made robust.A military union will indirectly make them in Inevitable

I have never Taken OIC just because of it being Muslim.But because a platform already exist and it will bring many countries closer.

OIC contribution is not limited. It is almost zero. If you take it as Muslim or not but the fact is that OIC is Muslim. The platform already exists in paper not in reality. NATO is a defence union. EU is a union which contributes in real terms but OIC is nether an economic union nor political union, not cultural union and can never be a defence union.

How can Iran and Saudi for example can be part of one defence union. Think about practicalities. The idea is very good that I should have today one billion dollars but I cant have it.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

OIC contribution is not limited. It is almost zero. If you take it as Muslim or not but the fact is that OIC is Muslim. The platform already exists in paper not in reality. NATO is a defence union. EU is a union which contributes in real terms but OIC is nether an economic union nor political union, not cultural union and can never be a defence union.

How can Iran and Saudi for example can be part of one defence union. Think about practicalities. The idea is very good that I should have today one billion dollars but I cant have it.

The reason i said earlier OIC might have limited contribution but can be converted into a real Time union with economic aswell as a military union.

Iran aswell as KSA still are part of OIC.and the annual meeting is held in almost all the countries which include Iran and KSA aswell.

Otherwise atleast one or both of them would had pulled long back.
OIC as an example has the potential to bring iran and ksa closer

[Badlun]

The reason i said earlier OIC might have limited contribution but can be converted into a real Time union with economic aswell as a military union.

Iran aswell as KSA still are part of OIC.and the annual meeting is held in almost all the countries which include Iran and KSA aswell.

Otherwise atleast one or both of them would had pulled long back.
OIC as an example has the potential to bring iran and ksa closer

This is exactly what I wanted to tell you that OIC is a total failure. In so many decades of the existence of OIC why OIC could not bring Iran and Saudi together?

OIC is just symbolic. It doe snot exist in reality like UN, EU, ASEAN etc. Religion can never bind nations. Nation is a political, cultural, economic concept not religious. In Islamism there cannot be 58 Muslim states/nations but one caliphate.

[ComradePashtun]

OIC is a completely useless forum. Perhaps any other organisation is better than the OIC. Its very objective as an organisation is vague. That is why in almost every area its work has been almost equal to zero as Badlun has pointed out. It has a long long way to go to evolve in to a military union.