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  • #46
    Originally posted by Karachi View Post
    Just check the thread I made a while back, India 100 years back and see how similar the video is to that: http://www.pashtunforums.com/art-photography/20381.htm

    How can you deny your links to India and too hinduism as well? what were Punjabis before Islam? I mean you guys still follow the Zaat/Caste system for crying out loud and still have Rajput, Jat, Gujjar, dalit etc..... names and identity which all have hindu origins. How stupid can you get bro?

    Also how in the world would you find Hinduism or any religion in agriculture fields? Go to any north indian village and it will be 100% same as your video

    Go to Lahore and see how many of the things are still named by their former hindu names, of course many of the names are changed now, but you will still find them


    I am laughing, my stomach hurts. I told you and warned you about these people my dear Pashtun brother and sisters. And I STILL CAN*T UNDERSTAND HOW STUPID this pakwatan is. He is back talking HIM SELF. I mean, he says something and then post facts that make him totally WRONG and his word biased. This guy slapped his own face, I mean woow, to loose your own argument with your own facts. This makes me confused, but hey if you suffer from identity crises/mentally ill sickness, this is just a normal day in your life.
    To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Loy Afghanistan View Post

      I am laughing, my stomach hurts. I told you and warned you about these people my dear Pashtun brother and sisters. And I STILL CAN*T UNDERSTAND HOW STUPID this pakwatan is. He is back talking HIM SELF. I mean, he says something and then post facts that make him totally WRONG and his word biased. This guy slapped his own face, I mean woow, to loose your own argument with your own facts. This makes me confused, but hey if you suffer from identity crises/mentally ill sickness, this is just a normal day in your life.
      I do not study race/genetics or anthropology. I am not an expert and never claimed I was.

      I am very proud of what I am, and I am glad that the entire Indian subcontinent has been influenced by my country.

      I don't even want to continue this discussion because it is way off topic to the thread. I will rely on the expertise of the Pashtuns on this forum, even though these experts could not even differentiate between the people of the video I posted.

      I try to be objective, so for me it's about facts.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Pakwatan View Post
        I do not study race/genetics or anthropology. I am not an expert and never claimed I was.

        I am very proud of what I am, and I am glad that the entire Indian subcontinent has been influenced by my country.

        I don't even want to continue this discussion because it is way off topic to the thread. I will rely on the expertise of the Pashtuns on this forum, even though these experts could not even differentiate between the people of the video I posted.

        I try to be objective, so for me it's about facts.
        I am south asian and even I can't differentiate those people from Indians. again check out my thread

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Karachi View Post
          I am south asian and even I can't differentiate those people from Indians. again check out my thread
          Well, you are not native to Punjab.

          There are people in the video that are not Hindu or Muslim. The woman with the jewelry hanging from her nose are called Boriyeh. They are pagans that do not worship Hindu gods nor believe in Islam. They are popular for eating the wild boars that come from India.

          Anyways, my entire point was that Punjab is a great mix of different cultures, religions, and people. I am not undermining the Hindu aspects, but you should realize there were people there before Hinduism.

          I'm off. Have a good evening.

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          • #50
            LOL more paki nonsense!

            Originally posted by Pakwatan View Post
            Muslims have always been the majority of Punjab when Islam came to the land.
            These pakis and their "low caste" Hindu inferiority complex!

            Bare faced lying by pakistanis is never ending.

            Muslims only made up a slight majority in Punjab by the turn of the 20th century, and by slight that means just a little over 50%.

            British occupation of Punjab and introduction of British legal system and education methods to Indians saw the mass conversion of "low caste" Hindus in Punjab to Islam and Christianity and even Sikhism at the end of the 19th and start of 20th century to try and escape their "low caste" Hindu status. This can be found in the British records and census information conducted from 1881 to 1941.

            1947 Partition of India also saw mass conversion of Sikhs and Hindus to Islam by those that did not want to migrate across the British invented Radcliffe line which is nothing but an imaginery line drawn in the sand between the two Dravidian brothers of so-called "West" and "East" Punjab.

            You are such a typically ignorant, stupid, sad little paki living in denial coming on the internet and bare faced lying to people when the truth about the information you lie about is so readily available to find in academic sources.

            By 1881 the Muslim population in Punjab was only 47.6%.

            Only by 1911 did the Muslims population increase to 51.1%

            And by 1947 the Muslim population of Punjab was at a meagre 53.2%

            http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.230...21103374194257

            http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.230...21103374194257

            Lying paki scoundrel, your self-pleasing lies may fool yourself and your fellow pakis but dont dare try and spread them among non-pakis who will catch you lying red handed and hand your dirty a** back to you!

            You Punjabis have a Hindu culture, society and heritage and are a historically "low caste" Hindu people that were first among Indians to always be beaten, looted and humiliated by invaders that attacked India. And it is only these foreign conquerors that invaded India which left behind anything Islamic of note, like the Taj Mahal, Badshahi mosque in Lahore etc etc not you so-called "Punjabis" who have nothing to do with these and nothing to show for yourselves.

            Give thanks to your British masters 'the saheebs' and their education system for being imposed on India and trickling down to you and helping you escape from the "caste system" otherwise you might still be an illiterate Hindu "low caste" instead of a literate but still ignorant paki!

            Originally posted by Pakwatan View Post
            @tor_khan

            and @Karachi

            This is a video of west Punjab from the British in the 1920's

            A Rare Video Punjab Village 1925 - YouTube

            Please show me where there is the Hindu culture?


            Did he really just ask that?

            Watch the video from start to finish and you will see pure Hindu/Indian society in action.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post
              These pakis and their "low caste" Hindu inferiority complex!

              Bare faced lying by pakistanis is never ending.

              Muslims only made up a slight majority in Punjab by the turn of the 20th century, and by slight that means just a little over 50%.

              British occupation of Punjab and introduction of British legal system and education methods to Indians saw the mass conversion of "low caste" Hindus in Punjab to Islam and Christianity and even Sikhism at the end of the 19th and start of 20th century to try and escape their "low caste" Hindu status. This can be found in the British records and census information conducted from 1881 to 1941.

              1947 Partition of India also saw mass conversion of Sikhs and Hindus to Islam by those that did not want to migrate across the British invented Radcliffe line which is nothing but an imaginery line drawn in the sand between the two Dravidian brothers of so-called "West" and "East" Punjab.

              You are such a typically ignorant, stupid, sad little paki living in denial coming on the internet and bare faced lying to people when the truth about the information you lie about is so readily available to find in academic sources.

              By 1881 the Muslim population in Punjab was only 47.6%.

              Only by 1911 did the Muslims population increase to 51.1%

              And by 1947 the Muslim population of Punjab was at a meagre 53.2%

              http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.230...21103374194257

              http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.230...21103374194257

              Lying paki scoundrel, your self-pleasing lies may fool yourself and your fellow pakis but dont dare try and spread them among non-pakis who will catch you lying red handed and hand your dirty a** back to you!

              You Punjabis have a Hindu culture, society and heritage and are a historically "low caste" Hindu people that were first among Indians to always be beaten, looted and humiliated by invaders that attacked India. And it is only these foreign conquerors that invaded India which left behind anything Islamic of note, like the Taj Mahal, Badshahi mosque in Lahore etc etc not you so-called "Punjabis" who have nothing to do with these and nothing to show for yourselves.

              Give thanks to your British masters 'the saheebs' and their education system for being imposed on India and trickling down to you and helping you escape from the "caste system" otherwise you might still be an illiterate Hindu "low caste" instead of a literate but still ignorant paki!





              Did he really just ask that?

              Watch the video from start to finish and you will see pure Hindu/Indian society in action.

              Salam my retarded friend.

              Please cool down and drink some water.


              I know you are not to great with words, so I'll try pictures.

              Here's one of the oldest hindu temples in Pakistan:


              ^

              Hey look. It's in Baluchistan.



              Here you can see an Elephant statue God:


              ^

              Hey what do you know..It was found in Afghanistan.





              Now think and reflect.

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              • #52
                Balochistan is the base of mehrgarh civilization.which existed even prior to IVC or we can say it was Pre-Indus valley civilization.

                Mehrgarh civlization was as much ahead of the world as much today NASA is from present day Pakistan.

                When the rest of the world was busy eating dead animals and waiting for evolution.The people of Mehrgarh were already into farming.

                In short we can say that the people of mehrgarh probably are the ancestors of Most of pakistanis,North indians and even central indians,Parts of Iran and sometime even stretching upto Iraq.Parts of Afghanistan aswell
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Pakwatan View Post
                  Here's one of the oldest hindu temples in Pakistan:

                  ^

                  Hey look. It's in Baluchistan.

                  Here you can see an Elephant statue God:

                  ^

                  Hey what do you know..It was found in Afghanistan.

                  Now think and reflect.
                  Uneducated paki back with more of your "low caste" inferiority complex,

                  Go get some education.

                  Hindus, Dravidians, whatever, were living in most of what is now Balochistan thousands of years before Baluchs existed and moved into that land. Movement back and forth of these Indians (Sindhis mainly) between Sindh and Makran was regular until Baluch arrived on the scene.

                  Same is true for much of modern Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa. Peshawar was not originally a Pashtun city, it was Indian. Afghans/Pashtuns became the dominant people in the traditionally non-Afghan lowland areas of modern Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa in later history by conquering the land and driving out much of its Indian population. The remnants of this Indian population today are called Hindkowans and Hindki by Pashtuns (meaning Hindus / Indian)

                  Baluchs origins are obscure, being an originally nomadic tribal people from what is now northwestern/western region of modern Iran, as confirmed by Baluchi language being a Western Iranian language and from Baluch oral tradition of their great migration eastwards.

                  Baluch migrated through Iran and ended up in what is now Balochistan in about the 10th or 11th century CE, some Baloch ended up in Khorasan and that is why you still find small pockets of Baluchs in Kerman and Khorasan in Iran and in modern Turkmenistan to this day.

                  Baluchs that ended up in modern Balochistan became the dominant tribe there and overtime absorbed other tribes and some of the indigineous Dravidians/Indians into Baloch fold. Brauhi people kept their language but their culture is now same as Baluch.

                  What is now called Balochistan was not known by this name when Hindus were living there mainly in the eastern parts. North western part was part of the Persian province of Sistan. Balochistan was always sparsely populated (like it is today) and historically is a natural barrier and huge bufferzone between Persian civilization on the west and Indian civilization to its east.

                  Chronicles of Alexander report that when the Greeks marched back west through Makran and Geodrosia, they barely came across any inhabitants for hundreds of miles. The Alexander chronicles talks of a small tribe of a few dozens the Greeks called the "fish eaters" in Balochistan. Impoverished and few in number, they were probably Dravidians and perhaps also Hindus. The Greeks came across almost nobody else.

                  Baluch entering the scene in 10th or 11th centuary and becoming the biggest population when they arrived there was not a difficult task.

                  Few Hindus still live in Balochistan, but guess what? Unlike you "lowe caste" pakis, Baluch have no problems with Hindus and Baluch never cared a damn about a Hindu, let alone pick a fight with them.

                  Baluch are tolerant and respfectful people that have honor, all things that a punjabi and smelly paki doesnt have and cant ever understand.

                  It is a thing of pride for Baluch if thousands years old Hindu temple is still standing today in Balochistan. This is testament to Baluch honorable conduct and tolerance throughout the ages for other peoples culture.

                  Sad little insecure Punjabis think that because they are ex-Hindu "low castes" that the same then must also be true for Baluchs and Afghans But history and facts prove otherwise.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by TheGeneral
                    I'm laughing so hard here, looking at Muslims fighting over who's more 'Hindu' or who's more 'darker' or 'lighter'.

                    Why do we care about history so much?How will that help us in the hereafter?Why do we care about skintones?Does having fair skin make one a better Muslim or does having darker skin make one 'Hindu', why do we care about where our origins are, or who our ancestors were?We're all children of Adam & Eve at the end of the day and that's what matters.What's the point of taking so much pride in what our ancestors did?Their deeds won't help us in heaven.
                    Umm, what the hell?!



                    What the hell is person talking about?? Are you even reading the same conversation???

                    The fact that only you are the one to bring up "skin color" and think this is a 'debate' on "skin color" when nobody here is talking about that is very revealing about your deep rooted inferiority complex and what is really going on in your mind!

                    Why dont you try and actually understand what you are reading here without your mind and eyes being clouded and overcome by your hidden anxieties and complexes which you have just unwittingly revealed to everybody reading this topic!
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