A wazir most likely to Rule Afghanistan in close future Again:Pre-poll Survey

[afghan]

Ahmadzai wazir or Ahmadzai Gharzai/Ghaljai make no differance for us.
We want the rise of pashtu speaking pashtun whoever support pashtu and pashtuns we should support them.
Ashraf Ghani is talented and educated person and hopefuly the next leader of afghanistan.I wish him good luck .
Afghanistan could become strong.stable,united under his leadership i hope.

we all hope the same. the article posted has shown abdullaX2 is leading in the poll. but the title says wazir most likely to rule afghanistan. LOL. for me if there is a sincere wazir who is able to rule id gladly support him.

[DSM0305]

By the way, some people in UK lately have started using the term "Afghanis" and when they distort it too much, they transform it into "Awghanis" or "Awghans". How do you react to that?

Do you think it carries positive connotations or negative?

I personally find some country names to be impossible to pronounce or said in a negative way. Afghan is one of them.
Here is a few examples (I am not talking about the country itself, but the pronouncing of the name only)
American
Russian
German
Afghan
It is hard to impossible to make it sound negatively by adding something or pronounce it differently. One must completely change the word to make it sound bad.
rusky, amerikun etc.
It is the same thing with Afghan. It is hard to impossible to make Afghan sound negatively regardless of small changes or adding.
Afghan, German, Russian etc. have all some sort of respecting tone over it (I am not talking about the country, just the name)

[MostafaM]

No one distinguishes between Wazir Subtribes if one is not a Wazir himself.

Mangal have 5 subtribes and one of them is Miralkhel. Yet, no one outside the Mangal tribe would even call someone Miralkhel because Subtribes don´t matter. They are just an ancient way to distinguish between big houses and family branches in a big tribe.

And of course you play the British "Divide and Rule" card.
The problem is: the Brits did it with perfection.
Your Paki-methode is crooked and a really bad copy of the original.

Calling Najib or Ashraf Ghani a Wazir was hilarious.
And the point is: Wazir hate Pakistan to the core. lol
You should educate yourself,......kanna Bannu ke biya mazdigar kegi. lol

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

No one distinguishes between Wazir Subtribes if one is not a Wazir himself.

Mangal have 5 subtribes and one of them is Miralkhel. Yet, no one outside the Mangal tribe would even call someone Miralkhel because Subtribes don´t matter. They are just an ancient way to distinguish between big houses and family branches in a big tribe.

And of course you play the British "Divide and Rule" card.
The problem is: the Brits did it with perfection.
Your Paki-methode is crooked and a really bad copy of the original.

Calling Najib or Ashraf Ghani a Wazir was hilarious.
And the point is: Wazir hate Pakistan to the core. lol
You should educate yourself,......kanna Bannu ke biya mazdigar kegi. lol

Agree with most of the points

Though I won't argue with you further about the Wazir being Pro or anti Pakistan by Majority rather would wait for the day when you will quit the denial mode,accept the reality and had already paid a visit to KPK.

NOTE:Mangal pashtun are also found in Bannu,infact Bannu was once their original Home.Inkai kala,beli kala,even sikenderkhel they are all the Mangal pashtun though they now speak like banusi people(50% of bannu people are banusi) and even considered themselves as Banusi now.

Sharif Mangal,English teacher from Degree college NO.1 is the most famous english teacher in Bannu.

[Al-Afghani]

Agree with most of the points

Though I won't argue with you further about the Wazir being Pro or anti Pakistan by Majority rather would wait for the day when you will quit the denial mode,accept the reality and had already paid a visit to KPK.

Aren't Waziris pro-Pakistan, while the Mehsud want to overthrow the state and install Talibanism? South Waziristan is not a war zone, as far as I know.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Aren't Waziris pro-Pakistan, while the Mehsud want to overthrow the state and install Talibanism? South Waziristan is not a war zone, as far as I know.

I agree.To remain neutral

Wazir like those in Baka khel,Domail,Jeni khel and even upto north waziristan are not very Pro Pakistan.But in parts such as Baka khel are getting more and more pro Pakistan because of the operation conducted by Pak army in 2009.

Those in the South waziristan such as WANA are the most pro Pak wazir.why?Because WANA is developed under Army.The Local Ameer are given money and alot of development is done.

WANA is used as a military garrison now to conduct operation from within wana through the whole south waziristan.

Mehsud those still living in South waziristan are not pro Pakistan but those moved to other parts of Pakistan such as the nearest dera ismail khan are Pro Pakistan.

As an example the south waziristan agency has 17 reserves seats in KMU(khyber medical university) as compared to only 6 in F.R Bannu and whole of north waziristan.

So probably your right.Wazir today by majority are pro Pakistan while Mehsud by Majority can be considered Anti-Pakistan

[Smarty]

Pak means pure not Paki.use some sense

So even if i go by your way,You should either call them as Pak or Paks or Pakistanis in ful form

Such as People of Afghanistan are called Afghan not Afghani which is a currency

The original word was pakstan, "i" was added to make it easy to pronounce.

[MostafaM]

Agree with most of the points

Though I won't argue with you further about the Wazir being Pro or anti Pakistan by Majority rather would wait for the day when you will quit the denial mode,accept the reality and had already paid a visit to KPK.

NOTE:Mangal pashtun are also found in Bannu,infact Bannu was once their original Home.Inkai kala,beli kala,even sikenderkhel they are all the Mangal pashtun though they now speak like banusi people(50% of bannu people are banusi) and even considered themselves as Banusi now.

Sharif Mangal,English teacher from Degree college NO.1 is the most famous english teacher in Bannu.

Well, if I hadn´t family in Khurram who are Mangal like myself and I wasn´t partly from Khurram myself, I would give a damn about your distorted reality.

My reality is that Mangal and others are fighting 24/7 against state sponsored Taliban groups and the Shia-led fighters around Parachinar who are Turi by tribe.

I know that grenades, rockets and heavy artillery is raining almost daily on the Mangal tribal areas of Khurram.....fired by the Pakistani army.

I know that no one gives a rats ass about Pakistan in those areas.

You could be right about that Mangal guy who is a teacher in Bannu. That´s hardly a representative account for how the people in Khurram think, act and live.

Try again. :-)

[Smarty]

Bannu mazdigar , what are your views about huge civilian deaths and destructron of markets, houses and mosques in mirali by paki gunship helicopters a week ago?......wont you agree with me that wazirs and dawars dont buy your pro-paki crap?

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Bannu mazdigar , what are your views about huge civilian deaths and destructron of markets, houses and mosques in mirali by paki gunship helicopters a week ago?......wont you agree with me that wazirs and dawars dont buy your pro-paki crap?

When i said i support Pakistan army?Though unlike the blind believers,I also accept a Problem within us aswell

And believe me the most funny part is when you guys start talking on behalf of Pakistani pashtuns.lol

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Well, if I hadn´t family in Khurram who are Mangal like myself and I wasn´t partly from Khurram myself, I would give a damn about your distorted reality.

My reality is that Mangal and others are fighting 24/7 against state sponsored Taliban groups and the Shia-led fighters around Parachinar who are Turi by tribe.

I know that grenades, rockets and heavy artillery is raining almost daily on the Mangal tribal areas of Khurram.....fired by the Pakistani army.

I know that no one gives a rats ass about Pakistan in those areas.

You could be right about that Mangal guy who is a teacher in Bannu. That´s hardly a representative account for how the people in Khurram think, act and live.

Try again. :-)

PAkistan sponsored taliban?Lol,well i thought Only Pakistanis were into conspirencies.

As far as i know Afghanistan blame Taliban in Afghanistan of being Pakistan sponsored.While those in Home are anti Pak and PA itself has lost thousand of soldiers.

I know Mangal from Bannu who are in Pak army.This evening i was discussing about Mangal people in Bannu with my uncle and i was surprised to know that Nandar Khan malik and so does his family.All of them are Mangal not banusi which i previously believed

Nandar Khan malik of Katezai(Kacho-Zai) is itself not in Army but 2 of his brother were in army,One of them a retired Colonel,His naphew Imran,Who was my elder brother classmate is also in army and now in the army aviation wing

And No,Pakistan is changing,Quite fast.And Probably in a decade even FATA will be more develop than average Afghanistan.otherwise your own family or your relatives would have opted for Afghanistan long back.

As per Survey's.Since 2012 the Number of Afghan refugees are increasing in Pakistan at an alarming rate.

And Calling Pakistani pashtuns as Pathan or any such name won't help you Because Pakistani pashtuns doesnt consider your opinion worth anything.And Also please stop being concerned about us.

Develop your country for which we always wish you best of Luck.

[Admin Khan]

He called me a Paki without any reason

What's wrong with calling a Pakistani a Paki? All Pakistanis in the US, refer to themselves as Paki; mind your language.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Bannu mazdigar , what are your views about huge civilian deaths and destructron of markets, houses and mosques in mirali by paki gunship helicopters a week ago?......wont you agree with me that wazirs and dawars dont buy your pro-paki crap?

Can i answer you more better than this?I believe Not

Capt Naveed Khan Wazir Shaheen with his buddy

Official page made in the memories of This Great Shaheed

https://www.facebook.com/CaptNaveedKhanWazirShaheed

And About Dawar's.Don't tell me about them.I live among them and you in the west.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

What's wrong with calling a Pakistani a Paki? All Pakistanis in the US, refer to themselves as Paki; mind your language.

May be in the past but not now.The use of Paki is now termed offensive.

[MostafaM]

PAkistan sponsored taliban?Lol,well i thought Only Pakistanis were into conspirencies.

As far as i know Afghanistan blame Taliban in Afghanistan of being Pakistan sponsored.While those in Home are anti Pak and PA itself has lost thousand of soldiers.

I know Mangal from Bannu who are in Pak army.This evening i was discussing about Mangal people in Bannu with my uncle and i was surprised to know that Nandar Khan malik and so does his family.All of them are Mangal not banusi which i previously believed

Nandar Khan malik of Katezai(Kacho-Zai) is itself not in Army but 2 of his brother were in army,One of them a retired Colonel,His naphew Imran,Who was my elder brother classmate is also in army and now in the army aviation wing

And No,Pakistan is changing,Quite fast.And Probably in a decade even FATA will be more develop than average Afghanistan.otherwise your own family or your relatives would have opted for Afghanistan long back.

As per Survey's.Since 2012 the Number of Afghan refugees are increasing in Pakistan at an alarming rate.

And Calling Pakistani pashtuns as Pathan or any such name won't help you Because Pakistani pashtuns doesnt consider your opinion worth anything.And Also please stop being concerned about us.

Develop your country for which we always wish you best of Luck.

You prove my point over and over again:

I have always said that those Pro-Paki Pathans (I dont wanna call them Pashtuns because serving in a foreign army rids you of anything related to Pakhtuns) who are staunch supporters of this state are lumpen proletarians who are members of the Paki-Military establishment and benefit from the American anual aide that keeps the Pakistani military alive.

You must be supporters of that state otherwise your social status would be in danger.

The reality on the ground is that the overwhelming majority of Pakhtuns across the imaginary border called Durand-Line aren´t part of that establishment nor do they earn a living by killing their own kind.

Thank you for clarifying what kinda Pathan you are.