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Originally posted by Khilji View Postopen a topic with your parsiwanism claims and show the people here on this forum the proof.
Your mom was raped by a parsiwan or what, my beloved pashtunized hazara brother?
Must be hard to live every day with so much hate. God punished you with an harsh existence lol
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I completely agree with what you're saying brother, but I get the feeling that you're mixing some stuff.Originally posted by vinyard80 View PostMy point is: tajiks are strongest ethnicity in afghanistan and your proved me right. On hazers, you are right. They are becoming and highly educated tribe in afghanistan. I was in herat pohantoon few years ago, and I saw more hazara students than pashtuns and tajiks, despite being a minority in that province.
On pashtuns leading culture, that might be true prior to the russian war. In those times most of afghanistan was under pashtun control. Just look at afghan musci, most of them were pashtuns: ahmad zahir, nainawaaz,..etc but most of them were persianspeaker pashtuns. But now all that is gone. Pashtuns only lead suicide bombs and taliban attacks. We are failing while tajiks and hazers are becoming a strong and solid reality in afghanistan. We must wake up, or we will lose all our power in our country. I don't wanna create ethnic gaps, after all we are all afghans, but in a country divided along ethnic lines like afghansitan, we are losing this race.
I personally like to differ between linguistic and culture. In Afghanistan everyone have more or less exactly the same culture, beside Hazaras who have minor differences because of their shia religion. Otherwise the culture is exact the same. If you take a quick trip to the north then a quick trip to the south, the only difference you will find will be the language.
In the other hand you will quickly find differences between Iranians, Tajiki tajiks and Afghan tajiks. That because once a culture is adapted it cannot change. Since Pashtuns have been ruling the region in the past, our culture have been largely adapted by our surroundings.
Otherwise I agree regarding tajiks being the most powerful ethnicity in Afghanistan(for now)Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.
People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.
''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
Ronald Reagan
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Well, I do agree with almost all your points. But, I think every tribe in afghanistan has his own culture. I mean, there is not any afghan culture. Actually there are even differences between same ethnic groups: tajik culture from west afghanistan is different than tajik culture from kabul and north afghanistan. Obviously all afghan ethnic groups share many things in common: ghairat, same food, same clothes,..etc but I must say that every ethnic group in our land is unique.Originally posted by DSM0305 View PostI completely agree with what you're saying brother, but I get the feeling that you're mixing some stuff.
I personally like to differ between linguistic and culture. In Afghanistan everyone have more or less exactly the same culture, beside Hazaras who have minor differences because of their shia religion. Otherwise the culture is exact the same. If you take a quick trip to the north then a quick trip to the south, the only difference you will find will be the language.
In the other hand you will quickly find differences between Iranians, Tajiki tajiks and Afghan tajiks. That because once a culture is adapted it cannot change. Since Pashtuns have been ruling the region in the past, our culture have been largely adapted by our surroundings.
Otherwise I agree regarding tajiks being the most powerful ethnicity in Afghanistan(for now)
Respect.
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Your'e right, Tajiks are the Jews of Afghanistan LOL. Working with outsiders like Americans and then clamming to be educated with false pride.Originally posted by vinyard80 View PostMy point is: tajiks are strongest ethnicity in afghanistan and your proved me right. On hazers, you are right. They are becoming and highly educated tribe in afghanistan. I was in herat pohantoon few years ago, and I saw more hazara students than pashtuns and tajiks, despite being a minority in that province.
On pashtuns leading culture, that might be true prior to the russian war. In those times most of afghanistan was under pashtun control. Just look at afghan musci, most of them were pashtuns: ahmad zahir, nainawaaz,..etc but most of them were persianspeaker pashtuns. But now all that is gone. Pashtuns only lead suicide bombs and taliban attacks. We are failing while tajiks and hazers are becoming a strong and solid reality in afghanistan. We must wake up, or we will lose all our power in our country. I don't wanna create ethnic gaps, after all we are all afghans, but in a country divided along ethnic lines like afghansitan, we are losing this race.
Good job bachem."Revenge is a dish best served cold".
-Old Pashtun proverb

"My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"
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What is wrong with jews? Jews are one of the most educated and sophisticated people in the world. I don't consider "jew" as an insult.Originally posted by Kushan Prince View PostYour'e right, Tajiks are the Jews of Afghanistan LOL. Working with outsiders like Americans and then clamming to be educated with false pride.
Good job bachem.
Anyway you are right. Most of tajik leaders are working with USA, but there are also many pashtuns working for them. As far as I know Karzai is pashtun, lol. BTW talibans are a paki proxy and to be honest with you I don't consider myself as a paki puppet.
You people must understand one thing: tajiks and pashtuns are one people. We have just different language and culture, but we both descend from old iranic tribes. We are one and we make up majority of afghan population. In my opinion only way to reach peace in Afghanistan is sharing agreement between these both tribes. If pashtuns and tajiks can respect each other, come together and fight for a strong and united afghanistan, then we will become strongest country in central asia/middle east.
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imigrant pls dont sell your poor uneducated bacha bazi pracitcing tajiks as educated.the truth is your tajik mother is right now brought down from the american soldier in the american base like from the soviet soldier from the soviet base.not by pakis lolOriginally posted by vinyard80 View PostWhat is wrong with jews? Jews are one of the most educated and sophisticated people in the world. I don't consider "jew" as an insult.
Anyway you are right. Most of tajik leaders are working with USA, but there are also many pashtuns working for them. As far as I know Karzai is pashtun, lol. BTW talibans are a paki proxy and to be honest with you I don't consider myself as a paki puppet.
You people must understand one thing: tajiks and pashtuns are one people. We have just different language and culture, but we both descend from old iranic tribes. We are one and we make up majority of afghan population. In my opinion only way to reach peace in Afghanistan is sharing agreement between these both tribes. If pashtuns and tajiks can respect each other, come together and fight for a strong and united afghanistan, then we will become strongest country in central asia/middle east.
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I agree about the part of your post regarding Unity.Originally posted by vinyard80 View PostWhat is wrong with jews? Jews are one of the most educated and sophisticated people in the world. I don't consider "jew" as an insult.
Anyway you are right. Most of tajik leaders are working with USA, but there are also many pashtuns working for them. As far as I know Karzai is pashtun, lol. BTW talibans are a paki proxy and to be honest with you I don't consider myself as a paki puppet.
You people must understand one thing: tajiks and pashtuns are one people. We have just different language and culture, but we both descend from old iranic tribes. We are one and we make up majority of afghan population. In my opinion only way to reach peace in Afghanistan is sharing agreement between these both tribes. If pashtuns and tajiks can respect each other, come together and fight for a strong and united afghanistan, then we will become strongest country in central asia/middle east.
Unity is the most needed thing in Afghanistan.Working Together for a peaceful Afghanistan is in favour of all the Afghanistan communities
Though i don't agree that Tajiks and Pashtun were similar people and having a similar origin"[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"
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According several genetic tests, pashtuns are related to their pathan cousins just like tajiks are related to their cousins from tajikistan and iran. Since both, tajiks and pashtuns, share also common origin, we can assume that we are all aryan tribes.Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View PostI agree about the part of your post regarding Unity.
Unity is the most needed thing in Afghanistan.Working Together for a peaceful Afghanistan is in favour of all the Afghanistan communities
Though i don't agree that Tajiks and Pashtun were similar people and having a similar origin
"PCA of the haplogroups frequency (Figure 1) also shows differences among Afghans. Although the worldwide populations are mostly clustered according to geography, Afghan groups appear to show more affinity to non-Afghans than to each others. Pashtun and Hazara in Afghanistan and Pakistan show affinity to their ethnic groups across borders. The Afghan Tajiks show equal distance to Central Asia and to Iran/Caucasus/West Russia."
" L-M20, H-M69, and R2a-M124, also seems to mostly involve Pashtuns and Tajiks. This genetic affinity and gene flow suggests interactions that could have existed since at least the establishment of the region's first civilizations at the Indus Valley and the Bactria-Margiana Archaeological Complex."
"A previous study by Heyer et al conducted in Central Asia [40] have also estimated significantly older dates for the emergence of ethnic groups from what has been historically known. These older dates may be explained by the fact that This suggests that the ethnic groups could have resulted from a encompass fusion of different populations [40] or that ethnicities developed were established from anin already structured population(s)."
The E1b1b1-M35 lineages in some Pakistani Pashtun were previously traced to a Greek origin brought by Alexander's invasions [48]. However, RM network of E1b1b1-M35 found that Afghanistan's lineages are correlated with Middle Easterners and Iranians but not with populations from the Balkans."
"In conclusion, Y-chromosome diversity in Afghanistan reveals major differences among its ethnic groups. However, we have found that all Afghans largely share a heritage of a common ancestral population that emerged during the Neolithic revolution and remained unstructured until 4.7 kya (95% CI 2,775–7,725). The first genetic structures between the different social systems started during the Bronze Age accompanied, or driven, by the formation of the first civilizations in the region. Later migrations and invasions to the region have been differentially assimilated by the ethnic groups, increasing inter-population genetic differences, and giving the Afghan a unique genetic diversity in Central Asia."
PLOS ONE: Afghanistan's Ethnic Groups Share a Y-Chromosomal Heritage Structured by Historical Events
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Bullsh*t. There is no proof about a jew origin. Pashtuns are not jews.Originally posted by Shah-i-Kot View Post^^Pashtuns are Bani Israel, not farsiwan/Iranic/persian
By "iranic" I mean "from old aryan tribes". You are confusing the term "aryan" with a citizen from modern iranian state. Seems you are a bit confused.
Tajiks, pashtuns, baluchs, nuristanis, persians, kurds, loris, mazandaranis, talysh,..etc all of them are iranic/aryan tribes. Facts are facts and no one can change them.
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