Retired Pashtun general arrested for fueling ethnic tension.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

we already knwo what kind of liar and agenda driven propagandist you are.
you said pashtuns girls running away with punjabis while presenting one case where the punjabi was wacked and the girl got back to her family.

how is that "pashtun girls running away with punjabis"?

also

as for these moronic claims of yours we dont even need to look it up as you are as delusional and irrelavant as soldat boy.

Awww You're being a conspiracy theorist now; Come on, the real reason you're upset with me is because you know I'm right, and you've tried so hard to live in your little bubble of denial and I'm ruining that for you.

If you don't "need" to look it up, then that means you know I'm right and you're afraid to see it for yourself.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Good on those minorities for refusing to call themselves Afghans, I'm Pashtun and I refuse to call myself Afghan. I hope everything Pashtun and Afghan ghets forgotten as a backwards relic of history

The only identity that matters is Muslim; ethnicity has ruined our society, it's divided too many people and makes us stuck in the past rather than moving to the future.

Death to Pashtunism, Long Live Islam.

[Khilji]

I am Pashtun, so there's no such thing as racism against your own people lol

I didn't say "ALL" Tribal girls are like that you guys were deluding yourselves into believing that Pashtuns who live in Pashtun culture all live by higher moral codes. I posted that article to show you that even in Pashrun Tribal belt, the heart of Pashtun land , there are Pashtun girls who will run away with Punjabi because Pashtun culture is so intolerable, they want to run away and they're willing away to throw away their izzat to do it.

claim what ever you want to be but looks like the pashtuns here dont accept you as a pashtun or your fashistic secterian ideology .

[Khilji]

Good on those minorities for refusing to call themselves Afghans, I'm Pashtun and I refuse to call myself Afghan. I hope everything Pashtun and Afghan ghets forgotten as a backwards relic of history

The only identity that matters is Muslim; ethnicity has ruined our society, it's divided too many people and makes us stuck in the past rather than moving to the future.

Death to Pashtunism, Long Live Islam.

stop talking to ghosts lol

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Well this is the internet; who cares what insecure losers who have no job think? They're probably just mad because women reject them and this is their way to overcompensate. As is the case with you.

[Al-Afghani]

Good on those minorities for refusing to call themselves Afghans, I'm Pashtun and I refuse to call myself Afghan. I hope everything Pashtun and Afghan ghets forgotten as a backwards relic of history

The only identity that matters is Muslim; ethnicity has ruined our society, it's divided too many people and makes us stuck in the past rather than moving to the future.

Death to Pashtunism, Long Live Islam.

You are replacing one backwardness for another.

But the right destiny for Afghanistan is becoming a giant museum, or wild life reserve. It can show the rest of the world how NOT to run a country.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

How can a sophisticated system of life like Islam be even remotely compared to backwardness? You either don't know anything about Islam except what some village Mullahs taught you or you don't know the meaning of backwards.

[Bost Bastan News]

i dont claim to be khilji i am khilji,the turks are altaic and not full mongols like this shia hazaras ,dont claim something without any proof porki, i just know before the brits captured you useless porkistani animals, the afghans controlled you for over 600 years specialy the khilji dynasti that hit the mongol invaders many times back specialy in your porkistan.and you even claim to be kashmiri you never saw an independ country you are the slave of islamabad this british comenwealth created porkistani raj,who knows who your forefather is indian punjabi brit....... who cares but dont sell me your porkistan as father when the pakhtuns freed azad kashmir and not even some useless pro porkikashmiris that could not free and cant free their own country from india and pakistan occupation.
i speak fluently dari and pashto, if turks or hazaras claims to be pakhtun but cant even speak pashto but find similitarity in tribal names is for me a joke not acceptabl and even not important.i am pakhtun and loyal to pakhtun interests wich means one offical language for loy afghanistan pashto and pashtunwali. you are a porkistani that even cant speak pashto ratting around a pakhtunforum and selling me yourself as kashmiri and your dirty porkistan, you are joke like this al-afghani hazara mongol both of you and your forefathers never had an independ country ,both of you very similiar to each other.you even dont know that the afghans dont speak farsi.

Aren´t Hazaras mixed as well with real Afghans living in the regions they today dominate, my Turkish friend? :D You are born as a begger without own language and culture. What makes you proud, you Khalji? You are just an adoptive kid of the larger Afghan people. Turks like Uzbeks have pride, own culture and language. What have you? Nothing except Mullah Omar lol Till the 18th century the name Afghan was used only for Durrani Afghans while you were called just as Khalji. That is proof enough that you aren´t Afghan but a foreigner that adoptet our language and culture and of course OUR IDENTITY. That means without us you still would suffer from ID crisis.

[vinyard80]

How can a sophisticated system of life like Islam be even remotely compared to backwardness? You either don't know anything about Islam except what some village Mullahs taught you or you don't know the meaning of backwards.

Sophisticated system like Islam? Nice joke, bro lol

[Khilji]

Aren´t Hazaras mixed as well with real Afghans living in the regions they today dominate, my Turkish friend? :D You are born as a begger without own language and culture. What makes you proud, you Khalji? You are just an adoptive kid of the larger Afghan people. Turks like Uzbeks have pride, own culture and language. What have you? Nothing except Mullah Omar lol Till the 18th century the name Afghan was used only for Durrani Afghans while you were called just as Khalji. That is proof enough that you aren´t Afghan but a foreigner that adoptet our language and culture and of course OUR IDENTITY. That means without us you still would suffer from ID crisis.

whats the problem with khilji they are great pashtuns their sultanat from iran to afghanistan to india was famous for cultur and peace and they fightet the mongol invaders out, last great khilji was mirwais hotak the afghans calling him neeka.anyways the hazaras are mongolian imigrants maybe like you.the name afghan is older than you think i opend just for this name a own thread in the history section here.the name afghan was nearly 500 years ago used by khushal khan khattak like by the khilji.the khilji tribe is one of the largest pashtun group in afghanistan to mix them with turks like this banned rtr did is just ridiculous.even the historians dont know the origin of the pashtun tribe.if you have problems with the taliban not my problem dont try to mix yourself as afghan its even not clear what you are.

[Bost Bastan News]

While it's true that members like the one you're speaking to have been exposed as having little or no connection to Pashtuns. You also have not provided references affirming your claims.

Shamlawar grew up in Afghanistan; while I don't like his views, he's right Kandahar was a predominantly Ghilzai city in the 1700's until under the assistance of the Persians came.. Ahmad evetually heisted it.


We view Ahmad Durrani as a hero but he is no different than Shah Shuja and Karzai, welcoming foreign invaders in hopes of piggy backing into power.

Brother, at the moment I am too busy to have time for myself. How can I please other people? I am stressed running here and there. I didn´t say I will bring you the source the next day. I said I will provide it when I have more time. Just have a bit patience.

@Shamlawar Khrasani
How can Kandahar have been a Ghilji city when Ghiljis were 100years ago mostly nomads? I repeat it for your again. Modern Kandahar city is a new built one by Ahmad Shah Baba. The ancient Kandahar was destroyed and depopulated by the wars between Iranians and Mughals and even before it was under attacks of foreigners. Just a fast search on Google about Kandahar. Haven´t read them carefully but I think it explains a bit. Have a nice day and happy new year brother.

''The first colonial account of Kandahar comes from Mountstuart Elphinstone (II, pp. 129-34), who describes the city as having been laid out in 1753 or 1754 by Aḥmad Shah Abdāli/Dorrāni astride Hōtak, Ṣafavid, and Afsharid (Arne) urban antecedents. Elphinstone estimated the population to be broadly between 45,000 and 100,000 souls, among whom Afghans, particularly Dorrānis, preponderate. While making an important distinction between urban and rural Afghans, Elphinstone also clearly distinguished Afghans from the resident Arabs, Armenians, Baluchis, Fārsiwāns (e.g., Qezelbāš), Hindus, Jews, Persians, and Uzbeks. The second colonial estimate of the city’s population at 25,000-30,000 comes from Charles Masson (I, p. 280; Whitteridge), who resided in Kandahar during approximately the late summer and fall of 1828.''

''Ancient urban developments. The urban complex, or, rather, the successive urban complexes located in the oasis, certainly go back to very ancient origins, even to the beginnings of urban society. But the modern city is recent, only two and a half centuries old (see below). The question remains as to where the town or towns that preceded it were situated (Figure 1).


About 4 km to the southeast of present-day Kandahar extends a broad field of ruins, known today in the popular language as Šahr-e kohna (“the old city” = Pashto Zoṛ šār). The term indicates the place occupied by Kandahar up to the 18th century. The choice of this area was certainly due to the defensive possibilities offered by the rock ridge of Qaytul. Reaching about 1,400 m elevation, it dominates (by ca. 400 m elevation) the alluvial plain spread below it. A citadel was built at the top and secured the hill. This defensive site has the advantage of being the northernmost of the rocky outcroppings scattered along the plain, and the closest to the top of the alluvial cone; from it one can control and supervise the irrigation system. Qaytul may well have been the single focal point for all the major urban developments in the oasis from ancient times to the 18th century. However, this has not been proven, and the historical conditions under which there emerged the powerful city that existed there up to the end of the Middle Ages, and in modern times, remain obscure.''

[vinyard80]

Brother, at the moment I am too busy to have time for myself. How can I please other people? I am stressed running here and there. I didn´t say I will bring you the source the next day. I said I will provide it when I have more time. Just have a bit patience.

@Shamlawar Khrasani
How can Kandahar have been a Ghilji city when Ghiljis were 100years ago mostly nomads? I repeat it for your again. Modern Kandahar city is a new built one by Ahmad Shah Baba. The ancient Kandahar was destroyed and depopulated by the wars between Iranians and Mughals and even before it was under attacks of foreigners. Just a fast search on Google about Kandahar. Haven´t read them carefully but I think it explains a bit. Have a nice day and happy new year brother.

''The first colonial account of Kandahar comes from Mountstuart Elphinstone (II, pp. 129-34), who describes the city as having been laid out in 1753 or 1754 by Aḥmad Shah Abdāli/Dorrāni astride Hōtak, Ṣafavid, and Afsharid (Arne) urban antecedents. Elphinstone estimated the population to be broadly between 45,000 and 100,000 souls, among whom Afghans, particularly Dorrānis, preponderate. While making an important distinction between urban and rural Afghans, Elphinstone also clearly distinguished Afghans from the resident Arabs, Armenians, Baluchis, Fārsiwāns (e.g., Qezelbāš), Hindus, Jews, Persians, and Uzbeks. The second colonial estimate of the city’s population at 25,000-30,000 comes from Charles Masson (I, p. 280; Whitteridge), who resided in Kandahar during approximately the late summer and fall of 1828.''

''Ancient urban developments. The urban complex, or, rather, the successive urban complexes located in the oasis, certainly go back to very ancient origins, even to the beginnings of urban society. But the modern city is recent, only two and a half centuries old (see below). The question remains as to where the town or towns that preceded it were situated (Figure 1).


About 4 km to the southeast of present-day Kandahar extends a broad field of ruins, known today in the popular language as Šahr-e kohna (“the old city” = Pashto Zoṛ šār). The term indicates the place occupied by Kandahar up to the 18th century. The choice of this area was certainly due to the defensive possibilities offered by the rock ridge of Qaytul. Reaching about 1,400 m elevation, it dominates (by ca. 400 m elevation) the alluvial plain spread below it. A citadel was built at the top and secured the hill. This defensive site has the advantage of being the northernmost of the rocky outcroppings scattered along the plain, and the closest to the top of the alluvial cone; from it one can control and supervise the irrigation system. Qaytul may well have been the single focal point for all the major urban developments in the oasis from ancient times to the 18th century. However, this has not been proven, and the historical conditions under which there emerged the powerful city that existed there up to the end of the Middle Ages, and in modern times, remain obscure.''

Nadir shah wiped out old kandahar in 1738 and founded a new city (originally called "Nadirabad") and many durranis, who at the time were allies of nadir shah, were settled in there along to many qizilbash.

[Kushan Prince]

Brother, at the moment I am too busy to have time for myself. How can I please other people? I am stressed running here and there. I didn´t say I will bring you the source the next day. I said I will provide it when I have more time. Just have a bit patience.

@Shamlawar Khrasani
How can Kandahar have been a Ghilji city when Ghiljis were 100years ago mostly nomads? I repeat it for your again. Modern Kandahar city is a new built one by Ahmad Shah Baba. The ancient Kandahar was destroyed and depopulated by the wars between Iranians and Mughals and even before it was under attacks of foreigners. Just a fast search on Google about Kandahar. Haven´t read them carefully but I think it explains a bit. Have a nice day and happy new year brother.

''The first colonial account of Kandahar comes from Mountstuart Elphinstone (II, pp. 129-34), who describes the city as having been laid out in 1753 or 1754 by Aḥmad Shah Abdāli/Dorrāni astride Hōtak, Ṣafavid, and Afsharid (Arne) urban antecedents. Elphinstone estimated the population to be broadly between 45,000 and 100,000 souls, among whom Afghans, particularly Dorrānis, preponderate. While making an important distinction between urban and rural Afghans, Elphinstone also clearly distinguished Afghans from the resident Arabs, Armenians, Baluchis, Fārsiwāns (e.g., Qezelbāš), Hindus, Jews, Persians, and Uzbeks. The second colonial estimate of the city’s population at 25,000-30,000 comes from Charles Masson (I, p. 280; Whitteridge), who resided in Kandahar during approximately the late summer and fall of 1828.''

''Ancient urban developments. The urban complex, or, rather, the successive urban complexes located in the oasis, certainly go back to very ancient origins, even to the beginnings of urban society. But the modern city is recent, only two and a half centuries old (see below). The question remains as to where the town or towns that preceded it were situated (Figure 1).


About 4 km to the southeast of present-day Kandahar extends a broad field of ruins, known today in the popular language as Šahr-e kohna (“the old city” = Pashto Zoṛ šār). The term indicates the place occupied by Kandahar up to the 18th century. The choice of this area was certainly due to the defensive possibilities offered by the rock ridge of Qaytul. Reaching about 1,400 m elevation, it dominates (by ca. 400 m elevation) the alluvial plain spread below it. A citadel was built at the top and secured the hill. This defensive site has the advantage of being the northernmost of the rocky outcroppings scattered along the plain, and the closest to the top of the alluvial cone; from it one can control and supervise the irrigation system. Qaytul may well have been the single focal point for all the major urban developments in the oasis from ancient times to the 18th century. However, this has not been proven, and the historical conditions under which there emerged the powerful city that existed there up to the end of the Middle Ages, and in modern times, remain obscure.''

Question for you:

Who are the true inhabitants of Balkh and NA in general? I mean the north has been invaded looted and massacred tons of times by the mongols, Persians and even the timurds. It's even stated that the north was the most depopulated in Ahmad Shah's times so are the majority of Tajiks actually immigrants over there?

Unless you can provide us some evidence about what you are saying about Kandahar then great go ahead an provide it, but if not, then stfu you freakin farsiwan!

[Al-Afghani]

Question for you:

Who are the true inhabitants of Balkh and NA in general? I mean the north has been invaded looted and massacred tons of times by the mongols, Persians and even the timurds. It's even stated that the north was the most depopulated in Ahmad Shah's times so are the majority of Tajiks actually immigrants over there?

Unless you can provide us some evidence about what you are saying about Kandahar then great go ahead an provide it, but if not, then stfu you freakin farsiwan!

You must be a settler from the Zahir Shah era.

[Khilji]

You must be a settler from the Zahir Shah era.

you must be a refugee parsiwan from the soviet era that zahir shah gave a place in nothern afghanistan like to the father of ahmad shah massoud .