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  • #16
    Originally posted by Swat
    BLS
    we are not Afghan wrora Afghan is currently serving as a nationality like Pakistani.
    We are Pukhtun.

    Look below! This is shows your excellent knowledge about history.

    Originally posted by Swat
    ^Ranjit sign is a pashtun puppet installed by Ahmad Shah

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    • #17
      Originally posted by swat
      which mobile do you have jodigul..
      n73
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      • #18
        Originally posted by jodigul View Post
        n73

        @ jodigul! Now look what Pakistan has done to all of them.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by khyaal View Post
          @ jodigul! Now look what Pakistan has done to all of them.
          I am aware of the situation, i watch & observe the ignorance and get more hopeless from pashtuns. that is why i am in status quo.
          Baloch & people of hazara are alive people, we are not. that is why i strongely disagree with any one who says that pashtuns have realized the game against them.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by jodigul View Post
            I am aware of the situation, i watch & observe the ignorance and get more hopeless from pashtuns. that is why i am in status quo.
            Baloch & people of hazara are alive people, we are not. that is why i strongely disagree with any one who says that pashtuns have realized the game against them.
            Actually now we have enough people who have recognised the problem and know the recipe and that is the thing which will bring about the change in the very near future. You will see it will happen soon.

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            • #21
              the Wali of Swat used to say that All PASHTUN ARE AFGHANS, BUT NOT ALL AFGHANS ARE PASHTUN.

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              • #22
                the Wali of Swat used to say that All PASHTUN ARE AFGHANS, BUT NOT ALL AFGHANS ARE PASHTUN....
                1:Khuday pak ta Sejday Dar khwakhey di khu pa yu rakat ka
                4 sajdey wi Walay (why) ?..........

                2:Khushal baba waley di chay YOusafzai Pukhtana na di Walay (why) ....

                3: Na A----n na Arab ao na Perang yam
                Pa Tair wakht da Khpalay Jabay Arman Raghlu...

                4: chay Pukhtunistan ka Farsiwan,Tajik,Uzbak,Hazara,Pukhtun Ghwand shi da farsi

                takay ta jor shi..............za ya num na Akhlam ...mata Haram da
                .....


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                • #23
                  Once i told to a khattak old man that we are 5th generation Afghans. He said to me that we all Pashtun living in pakistan were once Afghans. But now we are pakistani since 14th August 1947. He said to me that now do not say that i am afghan, rather say that my forefathers were afghan but i am pakistani.
                  [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4][COLOR=darkred]Barking Dogs Seldom Bite...![/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
                  :fighting:

                  LONG LIVE UNITED PAKISTAN

                  ([B]Balochi + Sindi + Punjabi + Pashtoon + Chitrali + Kashmiri = My Sweet Pakistan[/B])

                  Jeeway Jeeway Pakistan

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Nokia_Apridy View Post
                    the Wali of Swat used to say that All PASHTUN ARE AFGHANS, BUT NOT ALL AFGHANS ARE PASHTUN....
                    1:Khuday pak ta Sejday Dar khwakhey di khu pa yu rakat ka
                    4 sajdey wi Walay (why) ?..........

                    2:Khushal baba waley di chay YOusafzai Pukhtana na di Walay (why) ....

                    3: Na A----n na Arab ao na Perang yam
                    Pa Tair wakht da Khpalay Jabay Arman Raghlu...

                    4: chay Pukhtunistan ka Farsiwan,Tajik,Uzbak,Hazara,Pukhtun Ghwand shi da farsi

                    takay ta jor shi..............za ya num na Akhlam ...mata Haram da
                    Grana wrora sta pa maqsad poh na shom che ta tsa wayal ghware? i dont know where you got that khushal baba said yusufzais are not pashtun? do you have a proof of that? as i know i know khushal baba has written about yusufzai with great respect. better read his swat nama. he also wrote:
                    Ze de yusufzayo zan w zahr wom qatel
                    Bal maqsood me na wo pa khidmat ke da maghul
                    der shayan zwanan me yaw da bala wowazhal
                    ter saat arman de pkhemani nashta hasel

                    i have never seen anywhere that yusufzais are not pashtun. i did see in many places by paaki historians that Afridies are not pashtun, pakies claim that afridis are children of pashtun woman name Bibi mato and turk man. i dont think its correct.
                    Last edited by afghan; 04-17-2010, 03:44 AM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Son of Mountains View Post
                      Once i told to a khattak old man that we are 5th generation Afghans. He said to me that we all Pashtun living in pakistan were once Afghans. But now we are pakistani since 14th August 1947. He said to me that now do not say that i am afghan, rather say that my forefathers were afghan but i am pakistani.
                      So tomorrow when another state comes along what will he say, don't call me a pakistani call me so and so lollzz. If he is ashamed of his identity so much, tell him to edit his domicile "qaam" to something else. Afghan is tied to our identity.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Son of Mountains View Post
                        Once i told to a khattak old man that we are 5th generation Afghans. He said to me that we all Pashtun living in pakistan were once Afghans. But now we are pakistani since 14th August 1947. He said to me that now do not say that i am afghan, rather say that my forefathers were afghan but i am pakistani.
                        You might say that, the majority would say, I was historically Indian, but now I am Pakistani.

                        Tomorrow Balochistan will be free and .. what ... will they say ... I used to be Pakistani?

                        I don't get the mentality of denial. I've tried to understand it and failed.

                        Pashtoon = Afghan

                        Why the doubt?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by tor_khan View Post
                          You might say that, the majority would say, I was historically Indian, but now I am Pakistani.

                          Tomorrow Balochistan will be free and .. what ... will they say ... I used to be Pakistani?

                          I don't get the mentality of denial. I've tried to understand it and failed.

                          Pashtoon = Afghan

                          Why the doubt?
                          What is even funnier is that if say pakistan is not there during his lifetime, what will he say then? My forefathers were Afghan, I was pakistani half my life now I am x,y,z lolzz. It is sad when you see such people in denial or shame of their identity.
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                          • #28
                            khushal baba said yusufzais are not pashtun? do you have a proof of that...

                            Pekhwar Acdmey ka

                            D.Slama Shahen da haga khlu na da takey ma Awrdeley wu...nur ka shak da wi chay

                            prof ghwarey nu da hga na tapos waka

                            KHUSHAL baba da khbra zka kwala chay MAGHUL khelaf warsra YOUSAFZI

                            Nakhtay (Jung) ta na odredal....Ao da A----n da Farsi takay walay chay

                            Farsi zma sra pa lara Zara jaba rara wana da...
                            .....


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                            • #29
                              If you are a Pushtun/Pukhtun you are an Afghan and you are also a Pathan.

                              I am a Pukhtun, Afghan and Pathan.

                              Sadly today Afghan = pushtuns, uzbek, tajik, hazara etc.

                              This is not accurate.

                              Afghan = only Pushtuns, whether living in Pakistan, Afghanistan or elsewhere.

                              and what is Afghan?

                              Afghan = the tribes of Pukhtuns that descend from the same ancestor.

                              this makes only a few tribes about 20+ and not all.

                              in the end, though I am a Pakistani but I am an Afghan.

                              My Nation(Qaam) is Afghan, my birth country Pakistan.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Nokia_Apridy View Post
                                khushal baba said yusufzais are not pashtun? do you have a proof of that...

                                Pekhwar Acdmey ka

                                D.Slama Shahen da haga khlu na da takey ma Awrdeley wu...nur ka shak da wi chay

                                prof ghwarey nu da hga na tapos waka

                                KHUSHAL baba da khbra zka kwala chay MAGHUL khelaf warsra YOUSAFZI

                                Nakhtay (Jung) ta na odredal....Ao da A----n da Farsi takay walay chay

                                Farsi zma sra pa lara Zara jaba rara wana da...
                                Khushal baba never said that. What Khushal baba said was that he was angry that Yousafzais did not help khattaks and the other tribes during their uprising against the mughals. This is what Khushal Baba said

                                I alone, amongst the Afghāns, grieve for our honour and renown;
                                Whilst the Yūsufzīs, at their ease, are tilling their fields.

                                who told you Afghan is a farsii word? It is not. It is considered to be either from sanskrit or avestan ashvakan/aspagan (this is agreed upon by many scholars).
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