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  • #16
    Originally posted by Al-Afghani View Post
    Historically, the police forces and army were overwhelmingly Pashtun. Only in the recent decade has it been more normalized.

    Do you want a 100% Pashtun government, without any minorities? Then I guess the Taliban must be your favorite.
    Your idea of normalized is returning the favour for past Pashtun crimes

    I dont blame you for holding a grudge, like you shouldnt blame me for resisting your efforts

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    • #17
      Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
      Bost Bostan,

      While I agree that this article is a blatant piece of negative propaganda by a loyal Paki Pathan dog, but you are hilarious in countering it. Only you could hold that Bismillah mediocre, uneducated dull ******* in high regards. What you write is a flat lie, restrain yourself.
      kabaliya,grow up and focus on real issue.
      Jalalzai is pashtun from afghanistan or pakistan?
      how do you know?.
      For you parsighol every pashtun is paki.
      You can bring proof of his nationality here.
      wait for a minute and forget about what jalalzai said.
      Is this not true persain and uzbiks dominate ANA?
      ARE THE True pashtun in govt not called paki or isi agents?
      if wardag is isi agent according to persain warlord muhammadi?
      then who was masod,rabani and muhammadi?
      are they not iranians and russain tools?
      People in afghanistan must stop calling pashtuns paki or isi agents.
      They are the real afghan .
      Those who calling pashtun paki should go for DNA to confirm their origin first.
      Last edited by gadoonwal; 11-26-2013, 11:52 PM.



      Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

      pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
      be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
      gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
      be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
      hamza baba
      پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
      Pashto Keyboard Online (Afghan) LEXILOGOS >>

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      • #18
        Originally posted by asif86 View Post
        http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...-11-2013_pg3_4

        On June 15, 2013,

        Afghan Defence Minister Bismillah Khan Muhammadi urged Afghan National Army (ANA) officers and soldiers to show unity and pride as part of the ANA that would be taking the lead from the US and NATO troops in fighting domestic and international terrorism. Mr Khan praised his generals for training soldiers from all ethnic and religious minorities but said that ethnic concordance is a must. From 2005 to 2007, being an executive editor of Daily Outlook Afghanistan, I still remember how Army chief Bismillah Khan ordered officers and security guards from his ministry to prevent Defence Minister Abdul Rahim Wardak from entering his office. He was adamant in saying that the defence minister was an ISI agent because of his Pashtun identity. General Wardak belonged to the National Islamic Front party while Mr Khan belonged to the Northern Alliance. This irreconcilable policy of Mr Khan further divided the defence ministry on ethnic lines.

        Moreover, four months later, the army chief dismissed another Pashtun lady general, Mrs Khatool Ahmadzai, allegedly for her slight kissing moment with a NATO general. This decision created a formidable resentment of Pashtun officers against the army chief and his plan of ethnicisation of the ANA. Later on, Mr Bismillah Khan realised his mistake and reinstated General Khatool to her post.

        Warlords still control important posts in the interior, foreign, intelligence and defence ministries and have also dragged intelligence agencies into this war. Military intelligence never investigated ethnic rivalries within the army headquarters and other institutions because its officers are also involved in corruption, land grabbing, arms and the drug trafficking business. Mr Bismillah Khan has failed to address ethnic and sectarian issues within his divided force.

        Since the fall of the Taliban regime in 2011, the issue of ethnic representation within the ANA and police ranks has not been addressed properly. Ethnic representation and discrimination in the ANA and the police has been a major concern during the last 12 years. A majority of Tajik generals and officers are illiterate and have no basic knowledge of civil and military affairs. The power division between non-Pashtun and Pashtun generals within the defence, intelligence and interior ministries is pushing the country towards another civil war. According to a US report (2012), the division in the ANA, and ethnic hatred and factionalism within the ranks of the army is a matter of great concern. Ethnic favouritism is on the rise.

        In July 2013, the US defence department published a detailed report in which ethnic representation in the ranks of the ANA was focused upon with deep concern. In that report, Tajiks were shown as over-represented, Uzbeks under-represented and Pashtun representation as disproportionate. The Pashtun soldiers, officers and even generals within the ANA and police force now openly discuss the illegality of the war on terror in Afghanistan. They understand that Panjsheri warlords, Dostum and their cronies imposed an unnecessary war on the Pashtun. In army headquarters, they blame each other for the destruction of their country.

        Now, the ANA generals and officers have gotten weary in the endless battle against the Taliban. They want peace but are divided on the peace process. The poor, illiterate and corrupt leadership, lack of accountability and reported sexual assaults have caused attrition. There are 1,700 to 1,800 women police officers in the ANP but they face serious challenges including the challenge of sexual abuse. In Mazar-e-Sharif, and Balkh and Kunduz provinces, according to a US-based public radio report (2012), senior policemen demand sexual favours in exchange for promotions. The same story is being repeated in the ANA as well. A negative attitude towards women officers, sexual demands and verbal abuse have forced hundreds of women officers to leave the armed forces. Women working in the army have no separate toilets — they have been reported to have been raped and abused in shared toilets by ANA officers.

        Without any proper training of intelligence information collection to prevent the Taliban infiltration into the ANA’s rank and file, Afghan military intelligence is unable to process any kind of information. The leadership of the Afghan military intelligence has purchased expensive houses in major provinces of the country. Another secret agency, RAMA, which was established under the auspices of Indian intelligence agency RAW in 2009, is working in an adverse direction. The National Directorate of Security (NDS) works for the CIA while the Pakistani intelligence agency, ISI, is doing a different business.

        Iran has also increased its military and intelligence influence within the ranks of the Afghan intelligence agencies. Iranian intelligence has established several networks across Afghanistan and fixed salaries for the NDS’s double agents. In Northern Afghanistan, Iran’s various intelligence activities, including signal intelligence, human intelligence and counterintelligence, are operating under the auspices of the ministry of intelligence and security (MOIS), known as VEVAK.

        This squabble and these ethnic rivalries have forced ordinary ANA soldiers and officers to rethink their loyalties. Their wretchedness and misery, and the vulnerable future of their children, have raised serious questions. Their defection to insurgent forces is understandable from the fact that a corrupt and moribund Afghan army can no longer serve the interests of the state — they are serving the interests of the CIA and Pentagon generals. Last month, Special Forces Commander Monsif Khan in Kunar province defected to the Gulbeddin Hekmatyar group. The provinces of Herat, Farah, Badghis, Paktia and Kandahar are reporting the highest number of desertions.

        The Afghan local police (ALP) have been running a chromite extraction operation in Kunar province for over a year. Not only the ALP but ANA officers are also involved in robbing their country’s mineral resources. Illegal extraction of mineral resources in several provinces of northern Afghanistan is a matter of great concern. Now, as this corrupt and ethnically divided army is unable to defend its country, President Karzai has again started begging NATO, the US and UK for military cooperation after the end of 2014. Mr Karzai wants a bilateral security agreement, which will enslave his country for another 50 years. This agreement will increase further involvement of the Pentagon and CIA in Afghan security affairs after 2014.

        Since no functioning state and economy was created by the US and NATO states in Afghanistan during the last 12 years, once their forces withdraw, civil war and chaos will return. In October 2013, a Taliban leader warned that, by 2015, they would restore the Islamic Emirates of Afghanistan.

        The writer is the author of Punjabi Taliban and can be reached at zai.musakhan222@gmail.com
        Jalalzai khan,,,,,,,,
        if you wrote this for the good of afghanistan and pashtuns then we should be thankful to you but,,,,,,,
        if wrote for the ,,isi,,and pakistani agenda then shame on.
        As a pashtun you should never ever do such things.
        Look what pakistan done to pashtun?
        Your article is pro-talibans not pro-pashtun.You seems to be under the influence of pakistani agencies.
        On one side you wrote pashtuns are not fully represnted in govt and army which we agree but at the end you exposed yourself by bringing pakistani backed talibans into govt in 2015.You exposed yourself.
        The afghan army is dominated by warlords from the north since the invasion everyone know that.
        The govt,agencies and army of afghanistan is fully control by them.
        There is a way to deal with such situation.
        Pashtuns can not stand to them at present.
        The entire northren allience leaders are criminals and commited war crimes .
        At present if you say such things afghanistan will be divided into ethnic lines .
        There is political sulotion to bring more pashtun to the govt and army.
        Pashtuns are majority and should play the leading role in all parts.
        These war criminals like muhammadi,fahim,dostum should be assassinated and the blame will find its way .You can not bring them to justice in country like afghanistan where these people enjoy great support not just from afghans but from abroad too.


        ALL ethnic group should join afghan army to defend their country and in any country majority rule so as pashtuns.
        Without pashtuns afghanistan can not servive.


        People like muhammadi,dostum and talibs will bring only destruction and war to afghanistan.



        Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

        pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
        be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
        gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
        be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
        hamza baba
        پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
        Pashto Keyboard Online (Afghan) LEXILOGOS >>

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        • #19
          Originally posted by KGODB View Post
          Your idea of normalized is returning the favour for past Pashtun crimes

          I dont blame you for holding a grudge, like you shouldnt blame me for resisting your efforts
          All it takes for an Afghan to defect to the enemy, is one nasheed or emotional sermon. I don't want the army to suddenly disintegrate, that's why I don't care that some minorities are strongly represented.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
            Bost Bostan,

            While I agree that this article is a blatant piece of negative propaganda by a loyal Paki Pathan dog, but you are hilarious in countering it. Only you could hold that Bismillah mediocre, uneducated dull ******* in high regards. What you write is a flat lie, restrain yourself.
            Well said!

            Gadoonwal, here is warzi doll khawand...PaKustani Musagee preaching for division of holy Afghanistan.






            http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...-10-2012_pg3_6
            ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
            نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

            چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
            نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

            سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
            بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

            چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
            يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

            سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
            په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

            ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
            اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Azmal View Post
              Well said!

              Gadoonwal, here is warzi doll khawand...PaKustani Musagee preaching for division of holy Afghanistan.






              http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...-10-2012_pg3_6
              Does any one know who is this Jalalzai who writes such extreme things with such easiness?

              The partition of Afghanistan for peace — Musa Khan Jalalza

              Experts understand that in the case of an ethnic division, Northern Afghanistan would be a safe and a modern independent country

              The recent debates about the partition of Afghanistan for peace in London and Washington have received plenty of reactions from Afghanistan and Pakistan. Afghans understand that the old state machine of their country is no more working as it cannot accommodate all ethnic colours within its torn and bruised body. Technocrats believe that all parts of the machine have become outdated as it has not been able to address the issue of ethnicity, sectarianism and national reconstruction since 1992. Conversely, there are different opinions in Pakistan. Some believe that Pakistan needs a strong and united Afghanistan, while some agree on the issue of partition for peace. The 30-year long civil war all but consumed the state and society and now Afghanistan is considered to be a failed, militarised, corrupt and a less than functioning state.

              As per its tribal structure and ethnic composition, the country has never built up a professional army as it has been dependent on tribal, private and criminal militias for decades. As a failed, broken and polarised state, the country has been embroiled in intense ethnic and sectarian violence and unable to deliver good governance to its citizens. The government of President Hamid Karzai has lost its legitimacy. To elucidate the main causes of state failure in Afghanistan, I want to quote prominent author Robert I Rotberg’s valuable ideas about a failed state:

              “Weak states include a broad continuum of states that are: inherently weak because of geographical, physical, or fundamental economic constraints; basically strong, but temporarily or situationally weak because of internal antagonism, management flaws, greed, despotism, or external attacks; and a mixture of the two. Weak states typically harbour ethnic, religious, linguistic, or other inter-communal tensions that have not yet, or not yet thoroughly, become overtly violent. Failed states are tense, deeply conflicted, dangerous, and contested bitterly by warring factions.”

              In the case of Afghanistan, the state failure is characterised by weak and corrupt governance, lawlessness, unprofessional approach to the affairs of the state, drug and arms trafficking and the Taliban insurgency. As mentioned earlier, civil wars that characterise failed states like Afghanistan usually stem from or have roots in ethnicity, factionalism and sectarianism. According to Rotberg’s recent analysis, in most failed states, regimes prey on their own constituents. Most experts understand that criminal violence is also a contributing factor to the causes of a failed state. As Afghan state authority has weakened, failed and became criminal in the oppression of its citizens, lawlessness became more apparent. Criminal gangs take over the streets and arms and drugs trafficking has become more dangerous.

              The issue of the adjustment of various ethnic colours in the tribal structure of the country has never been discussed on government level. Durranis ruled the country for centuries but brought no change in the lives of poor Afghans; therefore the only solution to the century old conflict is a partition for peace. War criminals in Northern Afghanistan and some elements in the Karzai administration demand a decentralised system of power but suggest partition on ethnic lines will bring peace to the whole region. In May 2012, the US signed a strategic agreement with Afghanistan and proposed the removal of the Durand Line between Pakistan and Afghanistan. US General David Petraeus proposed that the international boundary between Pakistan and Afghanistan is to be eliminated. The Durand Line divides Pashtuns between Pakistan and Afghanistan. When Pakistan became independent in 1947, it declared the Durand Line its international border. Afghan rulers tried to settle the issue by offering Pakistan some sort of a secret recognition of the border as an internationally recognised border. President Daud in a Shalimar Bagh ceremony gave Ziaul Haq the same offer. Experts understand that in the case of an ethnic division, Northern Afghanistan would be a safe and a modern independent country and in the South Pashtuns would be allowed to join Pakistan.

              The recent Plans B and C for the ethnic division of Afghanistan began a new debate in both the US and Europe. Plan C worked out by Tory MP and Foreign Office aide Tobias Ellwood proposes the partition of Afghanistan into eight kingdoms (Kabul, Kandahar, Herat, Mazar-e-Sharif, Kunduz, Jalalabad, Khost and Bamyan). This plan, though still under discussion, has enraged some elements in the corrupt Afghan administration. Ellwood warns that Afghanistan will face a bleak future after the withdrawal of the NATO forces. According to newspaper reports, this plan was presented by the British Foreign Minister William Hague and discussed with the US administration. On September 9, Ellwood had shared this plan with the Pakistani officials in London. Recently in Kabul, the US ambassador to Afghanistan denied the plan to break up Afghanistan as part of a peace deal with the Taliban, but some of my friends in both the defence and foreign ministries in Kabul confirmed the plan and said the game has started.

              The former Indian diplomat and writer, M K Bhadrakumar in his recent article has doubted the security transition process in Afghanistan, saying things have come to a pass that the NATO can no longer trust the Afghan army. A British filmmaker in his recent revelation warned, “I think that various warlords will once again have their fiefdoms and that this will be exacerbated by the reduction in foreign aid. I think Afghanistan will disappear from our newspapers...”

              Since 2001, after thousands of US soldiers killed and injured, about $ 400 billion spent and hundreds of thousands of Afghan men and women dead, the mission still remains incomplete. By the end of 2014, when the Americans leave the country, the Taliban will return. Democracy will stop working and the economy will not be self-sustaining. Once the threat of civil war or the Taliban marching to Kabul emerges, thousands of Afghan army soldiers will leave their barracks and a large-scale defection will start. The partition of Afghanistan may not be acceptable to the Afghans but it is the only option for them to live in peace.

              The writer is the author of Policing in Multicultural Britain. He can be reached at zai.musakhan222@gmail.com

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              • #22
                what I saw on net is this about Jalalzai

                Prof. Musa Khan Jalalzai
                London, United Kingdom

                Work and Professional Experience:

                My research experience is comprised on twenty two years in political analysis, Afghanistan, Taliban, Extremism and Terrorism Issues. I have written books extensively on Terrorism, Violence, Sectarianism, Ethnic Violence, Suicide Terrorism, Human trafficking, Children Trafficking, women Trafficking and Drug Trafficking, Prostitution-Industry and Population Terrorism, Taliban, Central Asia, South Asia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, the United Kingdom, and Foreign Policy Issues. I am expert of intelligence and security analysis, expert of security and telepathic analysis. My books are being taught in several colleges, Universities and government institutions across the world.

                In addition to the above mentioned research, I have written many books in Pashto, Dari, Persian and Urdu languages. In 24 February 2004, I become the prominent writer in South, South West and Central Asian regions, according to the US library of congress report saying: “Musa Khan Jalalzai”, an Afghan Author/journalist, has emerged as one of the most prominent political writers. He has written many books in recent years, chiefly on political conditions in Afghanistan and socio-political problems in Pakistan. Several editions of each of his books have sold out within weeks”.

                I have worked on the Following Posts:

                1. Pakistan Institute of National Affairs, Lahore, Pakistan (Research Scholar From 1991-1993), where, during the Gulf War in 1991-1992, I completed two, books on the issue of Persian Gulf Politics.

                2. Daily the Frontier Post, staff writer, (from 1994-1997), where I wrote over one hundred articles on various political issues.

                3. Daily the Nation, Pakistan, staff writer from 1999-2000, where I extensively wrote on the issue of terrorism and sectarian violence in Pakistan.

                4. Weekly Independent, Lahore Pakistan (Writer from 2000-2003), where I contributed articles on sectarianism and extremism.

                5. Daily Outlook Afghanistan, Executive Editor, from 2005-March 2009. I still write article permanently for the editorial page.

                6. Permanent article writer of Daily the Post (Pakistan). I have written over three hundred political columns in the newspaper so for.

                7. Independent Research Scholar, from 1997-2005. I wrote articles and books.
                Prof. Musa Khan Jalalzai

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                  what I saw on net is this about Jalalzai

                  Prof. Musa Khan Jalalzai
                  London, United Kingdom

                  Work and Professional Experience:

                  My research experience is comprised on twenty two years in political analysis, Afghanistan, Taliban, Extremism and Terrorism Issues. I have written books extensively on Terrorism, Violence, Sectarianism, Ethnic Violence, Suicide Terrorism, Human trafficking, Children Trafficking, women Trafficking and Drug Trafficking, Prostitution-Industry and Population Terrorism, Taliban, Central Asia, South Asia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, the United Kingdom, and Foreign Policy Issues. I am expert of intelligence and security analysis, expert of security and telepathic analysis. My books are being taught in several colleges, Universities and government institutions across the world.

                  In addition to the above mentioned research, I have written many books in Pashto, Dari, Persian and Urdu languages. In 24 February 2004, I become the prominent writer in South, South West and Central Asian regions, according to the US library of congress report saying: “Musa Khan Jalalzai”, an Afghan Author/journalist, has emerged as one of the most prominent political writers. He has written many books in recent years, chiefly on political conditions in Afghanistan and socio-political problems in Pakistan. Several editions of each of his books have sold out within weeks”.

                  I have worked on the Following Posts:

                  1. Pakistan Institute of National Affairs, Lahore, Pakistan (Research Scholar From 1991-1993), where, during the Gulf War in 1991-1992, I completed two, books on the issue of Persian Gulf Politics.

                  2. Daily the Frontier Post, staff writer, (from 1994-1997), where I wrote over one hundred articles on various political issues.

                  3. Daily the Nation, Pakistan, staff writer from 1999-2000, where I extensively wrote on the issue of terrorism and sectarian violence in Pakistan.

                  4. Weekly Independent, Lahore Pakistan (Writer from 2000-2003), where I contributed articles on sectarianism and extremism.

                  5. Daily Outlook Afghanistan, Executive Editor, from 2005-March 2009. I still write article permanently for the editorial page.

                  6. Permanent article writer of Daily the Post (Pakistan). I have written over three hundred political columns in the newspaper so for.

                  7. Independent Research Scholar, from 1997-2005. I wrote articles and books.
                  Prof. Musa Khan Jalalzai
                  So this guy is an Afghan, badmouthing his country from Pakistan?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Azmal View Post
                    Well said!

                    Gadoonwal, here is warzi doll khawand...PaKustani Musagee preaching for division of holy Afghanistan.






                    http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...-10-2012_pg3_6
                    I sent him a letter via email.
                    Shame on him.He should,nt use the word jalalzai as his last name.
                    These are paid people by the ,,isi,,
                    He exposed himself in his article.
                    In reality he should write something about the ethnic division of pakistan.
                    Some where i read this man is living in pakistan for long time but originally he is from afghanistan,,i am not sure but an afghan man told me.



                    Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

                    pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
                    be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
                    gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
                    be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
                    hamza baba
                    پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
                    Pashto Keyboard Online (Afghan) LEXILOGOS >>

                    Comment


                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Al-Afghani View Post
                      So this guy is an Afghan, badmouthing his country from Pakistan?
                      Yes. He is Afghan but I cant imagine how an Afghan can use susch words!

                      Experts understand that in the case of an ethnic division, Northern Afghanistan would be a safe and a modern independent country and in the South Pashtuns would be allowed to join Pakistan.

                      The recent Plans B and C for the ethnic division of Afghanistan began a new debate in both the US and Europe. Plan C worked out by Tory MP and Foreign Office aide Tobias Ellwood proposes the partition of Afghanistan into eight kingdoms (Kabul, Kandahar, Herat, Mazar-e-Sharif, Kunduz, Jalalabad, Khost and Bamyan).

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                      • #26
                        Khost a seperate kingdom??? Hmmm maybe I can be the king than lol

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