PAKISTAN: The case of Pashtun genocide in the country

[EvilPakistani]

[MENTION=1068]gadoonwal[/MENTION]:
Man, you need to stop playing the ethnicity card.

Everybody in Pakistan is getting killed by terrorist attacks, just a few days ago bomb blast happened in Karachi, there was terrorist attack Rawalpindi on Ashura and terrorists are attacking almost every part of Pakistan.

In Gilgit-Baltistan, one of the most peaceful parts of Pakistan, Talibs killed foreign tourists in May.

The reasons why most attacks happen in KPK is because it is on the frontline of the war on terror, it is closest to Afghanistan and FATA, so it's easier for these terrorists to kill Pashtuns.

P.S not everybody in Peshawar is Pashtun, about half of Peshawaris are Hindkowans, and they're victims too, you need to see yourself as human first, unfortunately I get the vibe that most Pashtuns see themselves as Pashtun first and every other identity is secondary.

[Al-Afghani]

@gadoonwal:
Man, you need to stop playing the ethnicity card.

Everybody in Pakistan is getting killed by terrorist attacks, just a few days ago bomb blast happened in Karachi, there was terrorist attack Rawalpindi on Ashura and terrorists are attacking almost every part of Pakistan.

In Gilgit-Baltistan, one of the most peaceful parts of Pakistan, Talibs killed foreign tourists in May.

The reasons why most attacks happen in KPK is because it is on the frontline of the war on terror, it is closest to Afghanistan and FATA, so it's easier for these terrorists to kill Pashtuns.

P.S not everybody in Peshawar is Pashtun, about half of Peshawaris are Hindkowans, and they're victims too, you need to see yourself as human first, unfortunately I get the vibe that most Pashtuns see themselves as Pashtun first and every other identity is secondary.

Why don't you guys just cut off FATA from the federation? It might actually solve your terrorism problem.

[EvilPakistani]

Why don't you guys just cut off FATA from the federation? It might actually solve your terrorism problem.

Nah, if we give FATA to Afghanistan then they'll ask for KPK and Baluchistan and after that they'll ask for all of our land west of the indus river.

FATA may not be the most peaceful place in Pakistan but I think we can bring civilization to them.

[Khilji]

Nah, if we give FATA to Afghanistan then they'll ask for KPK and Baluchistan and after that they'll ask for all of our land west of the indus river.

FATA may not be the most peaceful place in Pakistan but I think we can bring civilization to them.

you cant bring anything to them as long you pakis living from us american aid and dont standing on your own feed you must first fix your ethnical problems in pakistan and your religous problems that you pakis actually cant handle anymore.but hopefully one day will be karachi again peacefull i mean fata i mean balochistan and sindh and occupied azad kashmir did i forgot gilgit or hazara? no right

[EvilPakistani]

[MENTION=5560]Khilji[/MENTION]

you cant bring anything to them as long you pakis living from us american aid and dont standing on your own feed you must first fix your ethnical problems in pakistan and your religous problems that you pakis actually cant handle anymore.but hopefully one day will be karachi again peacefull i mean fata i mean balochistan and sindh and occupied azad kashmir did i forgot gilgit or hazara? no right

What country doesn't live off American aid?Afghanistan receives more US aid than Pakistan.

In Pakistan we do have sectarian problems, but that's because we have the second most Sunnis and second most Shias in the world, so we're the battleground for Shias and Sunnis, we also have the most Ismalis and Ahmadiyyas so that's why we have conflicts because of our diversity.

Pakistan isn't the only Muslim country that religious violence, you can look all over the world, and there people killing eachother for religion.

I didn't understand the last 2 lines of your comment, it was incomprehensible.

[Khilji]

[MENTION=5560]Khilji[/MENTION]



What country doesn't live off American aid?Afghanistan receives more US aid than Pakistan.

In Pakistan we do have sectarian problems, but that's because we have the second most Sunnis and second most Shias in the world, so we're the battleground for Shias and Sunnis, we also have the most Ismalis and Ahmadiyyas so that's why we have conflicts because of our diversity.

Pakistan isn't the only Muslim country that religious violence, you can look all over the world, and there people killing eachother for religion.

I didn't understand the last 2 lines of your comment, it was incomprehensible.

you ignoring that usa is wasting his money on afghanistan because of the occupation, the pakis earning their money with selling their own citizen and territories as droneattackarea, droneterrorists to usa with supporting the us american occupation in afghanistan giving supplylines to usa etc etc and earned their moneys with supporting usa invasion in afghanistan.and that you pakis has just religous problems is a lie my friend you pakis has strong ethnical problems in alot of provinces your paki soldiers from punjab dieing in fata in balochistan in kashmir etc you pakis killing each other for a long time and you pakis killing muslims for over 60 years like in bangladesh and you pakis living from us american aid for over 55 years and you pakis had and has a us american puppetgoverment thats just fact.you pakis cant bring to anyone civilisation like the british empire brought you or the afghans before like durrani hotaki etc

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[Tiger Khan]

[MENTION=1068]gadoonwal[/MENTION]:
Man, you need to stop playing the ethnicity card.

Everybody in Pakistan is getting killed by terrorist attacks, just a few days ago bomb blast happened in Karachi, there was terrorist attack Rawalpindi on Ashura and terrorists are attacking almost every part of Pakistan.

In Gilgit-Baltistan, one of the most peaceful parts of Pakistan, Talibs killed foreign tourists in May.

The reasons why most attacks happen in KPK is because it is on the frontline of the war on terror, it is closest to Afghanistan and FATA, so it's easier for these terrorists to kill Pashtuns.

P.S not everybody in Peshawar is Pashtun, about half of Peshawaris are Hindkowans, and they're victims too, you need to see yourself as human first, unfortunately I get the vibe that most Pashtuns see themselves as Pashtun first and every other identity is secondary.

only 10% of the population of Peshawar is Hindko.. However, when it comes to terrorists I agree, most Pakistani's are killed uniformly... apparently terrorists are not racists.. however, when it comes to drone strikes Pashtuns gets killed..

My question is what happen if there is a drone strike on Sialkot by USA or Indians? Punjabis will probably drag the whole country to war.. than why the biased approach when it comes to Pashtuns areas.. Is it not part of Pakistan.. I for one have no issues with Indians.. we fought few wars with Indians for Punjabis mainly.. However, that can not be said about the next war inshallah..

Also do not think too highly of Punjabis.. without Pashtuns.. see how long can they last.. Stop being proud of your agriculture.. in the modern world it doesn't count..

Finally, Yes we are Pashtuns first.. Pakistan is a country where we are an ethnic group.. Pakistan should accept us as Pashtuns.. we wont give up being Pashtun for this concept of a country which was recently created.. when we see maps of the world change over and over again.. read some history.. The idea of Pakistan is a federation made up of many ethnic and religious groups having equal rights... if one groups is given preferential treatment over others.. how should that be acceptable..?? Bengalis and Baluchies are a glaring example of what I am trying to say.. Pashtuns are next in line.. However, Pashtuns are much more in number and much more educated and resourceful..

I hope I made sense

[EvilPakistani]

only 10% of the population of Peshawar is Hindko.. However, when it comes to terrorists I agree, most Pakistani's are killed uniformly... apparently terrorists are not racists.. however, when it comes to drone strikes Pashtuns gets killed..

My question is what happen if there is a drone strike on Sialkot by USA or Indians? Punjabis will probably drag the whole country to war.. than why the biased approach when it comes to Pashtuns areas.. Is it not part of Pakistan.. I for one have no issues with Indians.. we fought few wars with Indians for Punjabis mainly.. However, that can not be said about the next war inshallah..

Also do not think too highly of Punjabis.. without Pashtuns.. see how long can they last.. Stop being proud of your agriculture.. in the modern world it doesn't count..

Finally, Yes we are Pashtuns first.. Pakistan is a country where we are an ethnic group.. Pakistan should accept us as Pashtuns.. we wont give up being Pashtun for this concept of a country which was recently created.. when we see maps of the world change over and over again.. read some history.. The idea of Pakistan is a federation made up of many ethnic and religious groups having equal rights... if one groups is given preferential treatment over others.. how should that be acceptable..?? Bengalis and Baluchies are a glaring example of what I am trying to say.. Pashtuns are next in line.. However, Pashtuns are much more in number and much more educated and resourceful..

I hope I made sense

I've heard that there are more Hindkowans in Peshawar than 10%, and I do agree most people killed in US drones are Pashtuns, but there are many foreigners living in FATA too, such as Tajiks,Uzbeks,Chechens,Dagestanis and many Afghan citizens, however I do condemn all the killings of all people living on Pakistan soil by US drones.

People all over Pakistan sympathize with the people of FATA, the government doesn't care about anybody not even the majority that Punjabis, they care about money, the leaders of ANP received around $30 million from America to keep quite over drone attacks, and ANP leaders support drone strikes, so it's not just the non-Pashtun establishment that permits these drones.

My question is what happen if there is a drone strike on Sialkot by USA or Indians? Punjabis will probably drag the whole country to war

If America did a drone strike on Sialkot, nothing would happen because America is a super power and Pakistan is a recipient of US aid, so Pakistan won't do much except protest, but if India attacked Sialkot or even any part of KPK, Pakistan would retaliate because Pakistan's army isn't really afraid of them.

I for one have no issues with Indians.. we fought few wars with Indians for Punjabis mainly.. However, that can not be said about the next war inshallah..

I and most Pakistanis have no issues with Indian citizens either, we only dislike their government.

We didn't fight India for Punjabis, we fought India for Kashmir, we fought the first war in 1947 for Kashmir, then in 1965 for Kashmir again under Ayub Khan then in 1971 for East Pakistan under Yahya Khan and again in 1999 for kashmir.

I'm kashmiri and I've always admired Pashtuns, many pashtun tribes fought for Kashmir in 1947 and many Pashtuns live in Kashmir, unfortunately you don't seem to know much about our history or about the acrimony between India and Pakistan.

Also do not think too highly of Punjabis.. without Pashtuns.. see how long can they last.. Stop being proud of your agriculture.. in the modern world it doesn't count..

i don't think too highly of anybody, I judge people on an individual basis, I do think the Punjabis can and should take pride in their agriculture because Punjab(both east and west Punjab) is the breadbasket of south Asia, and industrialization will eventually happen in Pakistan, can't say the same about Afghanistan.

Finally, Yes we are Pashtuns first.. Pakistan is a country where we are an ethnic group.. Pakistan should accept us as Pashtuns.. we wont give up being Pashtun for this concept of a country which was recently created.. when we see maps of the world change over and over again.. read some history.. The idea of Pakistan is a federation made up of many ethnic and religious groups having equal rights... if one groups is given preferential treatment over others.. how should that be acceptable..??

In Pakistan we accept all ethnic groups, I'm a Kashmiri and a Pakistani, you can be both, unfortunately Pashtuns usually see themselves as Pashtun only, heck I'm not even asking you to see yourself as Pakistani first, you should see yourself as a Muslim and Human first, but a lot of Pashtuns will help a fellow Pashtun even if they're wrong over another Muslim, no matter how much Pashtuns claim to be Muslim, first their behavior proves otherwise, they tend to think like a clan.

heck you even forgot about why pakistan fought India, do people in Afghanistan even care about Kashmiris and Palestinians?i guess not, because they're Pashtun first and foremost.

[Loy Afghanistan]

I've heard that there are more Hindkowans in Peshawar than 10%, and I do agree most people killed in US drones are Pashtuns, but there are many foreigners living in FATA too, such as Tajiks,Uzbeks,Chechens,Dagestanis and many Afghan citizens, however I do condemn all the killings of all people living on Pakistan soil by US drones.

People all over Pakistan sympathize with the people of FATA, the government doesn't care about anybody not even the majority that Punjabis, they care about money, the leaders of ANP received around $30 million from America to keep quite over drone attacks, and ANP leaders support drone strikes, so it's not just the non-Pashtun establishment that permits these drones.



If America did a drone strike on Sialkot, nothing would happen because America is a super power and Pakistan is a recipient of US aid, so Pakistan won't do much except protest, but if India attacked Sialkot or even any part of KPK, Pakistan would retaliate because Pakistan's army isn't really afraid of them.


I and most Pakistanis have no issues with Indian citizens either, we only dislike their government.

We didn't fight India for Punjabis, we fought India for Kashmir, we fought the first war in 1947 for Kashmir, then in 1965 for Kashmir again under Ayub Khan then in 1971 for East Pakistan under Yahya Khan and again in 1999 for kashmir.

I'm kashmiri and I've always admired Pashtuns, many pashtun tribes fought for Kashmir in 1947 and many Pashtuns live in Kashmir, unfortunately you don't seem to know much about our history or about the acrimony between India and Pakistan.



i don't think too highly of anybody, I judge people on an individual basis, I do think the Punjabis can and should take pride in their agriculture because Punjab(both east and west Punjab) is the breadbasket of south Asia, and industrialization will eventually happen in Pakistan, can't say the same about Afghanistan.



In Pakistan we accept all ethnic groups, I'm a Kashmiri and a Pakistani, you can be both, unfortunately Pashtuns usually see themselves as Pashtun only, heck I'm not even asking you to see yourself as Pakistani first, you should see yourself as a Muslim and Human first, but a lot of Pashtuns will help a fellow Pashtun even if they're wrong over another Muslim, no matter how much Pashtuns claim to be Muslim, first their behavior proves otherwise, they tend to think like a clan.

heck you even forgot about why pakistan fought India, do people in Afghanistan even care about Kashmiris and Palestinians?i guess not, because they're Pashtun first and foremost.

I hope, they will continue to take Pashtun before others. Why shouldn't we? What has the world exactly done to us? We didn't even invite all the ethnicities that is on our lands today disrespecting us, sucking our resources, using our people as slaves, and sex objects. We are occupied in both sides of the durand line.

We have been nice to long, it is time that Pashtuns came in to the real game, stop living in the illusion of the loyal world, it is not those time any more. We played it civilized, respectful, loyal and what did we got back? Backstabbing, lies, half our country taking away from us, by the British made punjabistan. Invasion by ruskies, then punjabis and now half of the world troops are in our soil. drone attacks on both sides. And who dies? I don't see punjabis loosing life, I don't see uzbekis die, I dont see hazaras die? I see only Pashtuns die, only Pashtun villages destroyed, only Pashtun lands taken away all the time, other etnicites are getting better, Mazare and uzbeks towns are far better than whole Kandahar or Waziristan, FATA etc. Why should we care about Kashmiris or palestinaians when we are both Kashmiris and Palestinians. Go back to punjabi forum if you are not brining something good.

[EvilPakistani]

I hope, they will continue to take Pashtun before others. Why shouldn't we? What has the world exactly done to us? We didn't even invite all the ethnicities that is on our lands today disrespecting us, sucking our resources, using our people as slaves, and sex objects. We are occupied in both sides of the durand line.

We have been nice to long, it is time that Pashtuns came in to the real game, stop living in the illusion of the loyal world, it is not those time any more. We played it civilized, respectful, loyal and what did we got back? Backstabbing, lies, half our country taking away from us, by the British made punjabistan. Invasion by ruskies, then punjabis and now half of the world troops are in our soil. drone attacks on both sides. And who dies? I don't see punjabis loosing life, I don't see uzbekis die, I dont see hazaras die? I see only Pashtuns die, only Pashtun villages destroyed, only Pashtun lands taken away all the time, other etnicites are getting better, Mazare and uzbeks towns are far better than whole Kandahar or Waziristan, FATA etc. Why should we care about Kashmiris or palestinaians when we are both Kashmiris and Palestinians. Go back to punjabi forum if you are not brining something good.

I have no problem with Pashtuns siding with Pashtuns over non-Pashtuns, but then Pashtuns should stop pretending to be devout Muslims and they need to stop pretending that they care about the Muslim ummah and not their Pashtun commmunity, they can't have it both ways.

You want a "Loy Afghanistan", there are Uzbek lands in Afghanistan and they want a Loy Uzbekistan and Tajiks want a loy Tajikstan and Persians want a free Khorasan, so Afghanistan isn't just "Pashtun land", you claim to be the sole heirs of that land.

Backstabbing, lies, half our country taking away from us, by the British made punjabistan. Invasion by ruskies, then punjabis and now half of the world troops are in our soil. drone attacks on both sides. And who dies? I don't see punjabis loosing life, I don't see uzbekis die, I dont see hazaras die?

Your Afghan rulers surrendered half of their land to Britain and now that's history, in fact they received payments for the Durrand line agreement, and Pakistan just inherited that land, so don't blame us for "stealing" it.

You claim that Pakistan is "Punjabistan", that's actually incorrect, because Pakistan is only 42% Punjabi just how Afghanistan is only 42% Pashtun, and in Pakistan's history only 1 President(Zia) was a Punjabi and none of the PMs were Punjabi either, also Pakistan has had 14 army chiefs of which only 4 were Punjabis.

45% of Pakistan's armed forces are Punjabi, whereas Pashtuns make up 35% of Pakistan's army(they're over represented proportionally), so Pakistan isn't some "Punjabi state", I'm Kashmiri and i have relatives in the army.

People of all ethnicities are dying of terrorism in Pakistan, early this year there was an attack on Shia Hazaras in Quetta.

Why should we care about Kashmiris or palestinaians when we are both Kashmiris and Palestinians.

Then stop pretending to be Muslim, heck stop pretending to be humans, cause you're an ethnonationalist, you only care about your own, the only other race that thinks like that are jews.

Go back to punjabi forum if you are not brining something good.

I'm not even a Punjabi and I've been on this forum longer than you.

[Tiger Khan]

I've heard that there are more Hindkowans in Peshawar than 10%, and I do agree most people killed in US drones are Pashtuns, but there are many foreigners living in FATA too, such as Tajiks,Uzbeks,Chechens,Dagestanis and many Afghan citizens, however I do condemn all the killings of all people living on Pakistan soil by US drones.

People all over Pakistan sympathize with the people of FATA, the government doesn't care about anybody not even the majority that Punjabis, they care about money, the leaders of ANP received around $30 million from America to keep quite over drone attacks, and ANP leaders support drone strikes, so it's not just the non-Pashtun establishment that permits these drones.



If America did a drone strike on Sialkot, nothing would happen because America is a super power and Pakistan is a recipient of US aid, so Pakistan won't do much except protest, but if India attacked Sialkot or even any part of KPK, Pakistan would retaliate because Pakistan's army isn't really afraid of them.


I and most Pakistanis have no issues with Indian citizens either, we only dislike their government.

We didn't fight India for Punjabis, we fought India for Kashmir, we fought the first war in 1947 for Kashmir, then in 1965 for Kashmir again under Ayub Khan then in 1971 for East Pakistan under Yahya Khan and again in 1999 for kashmir.

I'm kashmiri and I've always admired Pashtuns, many pashtun tribes fought for Kashmir in 1947 and many Pashtuns live in Kashmir, unfortunately you don't seem to know much about our history or about the acrimony between India and Pakistan.



i don't think too highly of anybody, I judge people on an individual basis, I do think the Punjabis can and should take pride in their agriculture because Punjab(both east and west Punjab) is the breadbasket of south Asia, and industrialization will eventually happen in Pakistan, can't say the same about Afghanistan.



In Pakistan we accept all ethnic groups, I'm a Kashmiri and a Pakistani, you can be both, unfortunately Pashtuns usually see themselves as Pashtun only, heck I'm not even asking you to see yourself as Pakistani first, you should see yourself as a Muslim and Human first, but a lot of Pashtuns will help a fellow Pashtun even if they're wrong over another Muslim, no matter how much Pashtuns claim to be Muslim, first their behavior proves otherwise, they tend to think like a clan.

heck you even forgot about why pakistan fought India, do people in Afghanistan even care about Kashmiris and Palestinians?i guess not, because they're Pashtun first and foremost.

Surprisingly.. I do agree with a lot of what you have said.. but there are things that Punjabis have to fix because only they (due to the overwhelming number) have power to fix.. also agree with me when I say that other ethnic groups do usually get the short end of the stick in Pakistan.. example.. if 35% of the army is Pashtun.. how many generals are actually Pashtuns??.. if KPK is part of Pakistan.. why are all the strategic infrastructure project created in Punjab (even before Taliban problem).. wapda house, nuclear reactors, etc etc.. also I believe that Pashtuns aint saints either and believe it or not all of my life most of my friends have been Punjabis.. However, racism do happen in Pakistan against Pashtuns.. and when it comes to the crunch time punjabies always side with fellow punjabies.. Even when they have to select a Judge or governor from Pashtun areas.. they try to make sure its non-Pashtun.. when Pashtuns make around 75% of the population of KPK. (Also know that Punjabi makes 75% of the population of Punjab, 60% of Sindh is Sindh as per Pakistan government survey in 1980.. which must have changed significantly due to Fata war).. so hindkowans and other combined makes the remaining 25% in KPK.

Also understand that Baluchies hate punjabies, Bengalies hate punjabies.. hell even sindhis don't trust them.. yet you do not see a problem.. also know that I blame punjabies for splitting of East Paksitan. Their may have been Pashtuns in places, but they were working Punjabi agenda.

However, I do believe that the issues can be resolved with a honest push at the top.. here is something I wrote in a post recently:
Decoding Pakistan’s Punjabi Problem. - 11-11-2013, 06:42 AM



Punjabis are (for all practical purposes) masters of Pakistan, because they make over 50% of the population of Pakistan and other ethnic minorities have to suffer because of their lack of knowledge and confidence. Here are few points that may be cause of the actions (or inaction) that Punjabis take:

· Punjabis have never had any empire, only Punjabi empire from this region was Sikh empire (who were a minority and non-Muslims). Therefore, Punjabis do not know how to handle power or the repercussion of what happens due to use of such power.

· Punjabis have always been agriculturalist, they think that since they produce so much grain everyone else is dependent on them for the food they produce. Not knowing (or understanding) that agriculture is not the thing in today’s world. And the rest of the province have enough resources to support themselves and even more. (Being able to produce a lot of grains gives them a sense of pride)

· Punjabi is not an ethnic group per say. It is an amalgamation of many ethnic groups who happen to live together and speak similar language. In fact anyone who is fair in Punjab is considered either Punjabi or Pathan, and if that person doesn’t speak Punjabi he is definitely a pathan. (Shows lack of knowledge of other cultures)

· Punjabi consider it their national duty to ensure that Pakistan stays sovereign and intact. However, they were the cause Bangladesh seceded and Baluchistan is asking for it. While KPK and other Pashtun territories will be plunged into it as well. They fail to understand that Pakistan is a federation and every ethnic/religeous groups right has to be protected. Bengalies (they were dark therefore, considered inferior by Punjabies) asked for their right and nothing more. If Baluchistan, KPK, Sindh etc. wants their rights it has to be given to them, if the federation has to be protected. Moreover, Language and Internal Map of Pakistan was not a word of God and can be altered.

· Punjabi language is also not very old and due to the lack of ethnic cohesiveness and the fact, that most of the empires of sub-continent region ruled over them in some point and time, has resulted in no love for Punjabi language in Punjabis. Therefore, they consider the language something unimportant, as many languages and cultures have already been imposed on them (the region has been called “Motel of Empires” by some historians) by various rulers and faded with those empires.

· Finally, Punjabis can throw their weight around due to the sheer size of their number, However, Punjabis confuse this ability to influence public policies the superiority of their intellect. When most of the policies forwarded by them gets approved because there is Punjabi at every level, not because they are smart and can make most viable and wholesome argument. And this also extends internationally, if you give nato supply lines do not expect Afghans to thanks you in return etc etc. In today’s world, information is readily available and everyone knows who is stabbing them in the back, so countries now have to have clear foreign policies, do not expect other to not know, when you are sleeping around.

[Loy Afghanistan]

I have no problem with Pashtuns siding with Pashtuns over non-Pashtuns, but then Pashtuns should stop pretending to be devout Muslims and they need to stop pretending that they care about the Muslim ummah and not their Pashtun commmunity, they can't have it both ways.

You want a "Loy Afghanistan", there are Uzbek lands in Afghanistan and they want a Loy Uzbekistan and Tajiks want a loy Tajikstan and Persians want a free Khorasan, so Afghanistan isn't just "Pashtun land", you claim to be the sole heirs of that land.



Your Afghan rulers surrendered half of their land to Britain and now that's history, in fact they received payments for the Durrand line agreement, and Pakistan just inherited that land, so don't blame us for "stealing" it.

You claim that Pakistan is "Punjabistan", that's actually incorrect, because Pakistan is only 42% Punjabi just how Afghanistan is only 42% Pashtun, and in Pakistan's history only 1 President(Zia) was a Punjabi and none of the PMs were Punjabi either, also Pakistan has had 14 army chiefs of which only 4 were Punjabis.

45% of Pakistan's armed forces are Punjabi, whereas Pashtuns make up 35% of Pakistan's army(they're over represented proportionally), so Pakistan isn't some "Punjabi state", I'm Kashmiri and i have relatives in the army.

People of all ethnicities are dying of terrorism in Pakistan, early this year there was an attack on Shia Hazaras in Quetta.



Then stop pretending to be Muslim, heck stop pretending to be humans, cause you're an ethnonationalist, you only care about your own, the only other race that thinks like that are jews.



I'm not even a Punjabi and I've been on this forum longer than you.

Listen little man, I am just saying, let us be alone, we don't want to interfere in your business or country, don't play with fire or you will get burn in the end. You are not god, you can't decide who is Muslim who is not, typical behaviour of a haramzada who thinks he can decide if you are a Muslim or not, we will see on the judgement day what kind of people will go to hell, don't worry about Pashtuns. Uzbeks and other invasion people is non invented guests from Mongolia, etc. They come and occupy our soil, we never attacked them, they behave uncivilized and think power gives them right do to anything, such as the gov of pakistan, arabs, USA etc.

"Your Afghan rulers surrendered half of their land to Britain and now that's history, in fact they received payments for the Durrand line agreement, and Pakistan just inherited that land, so don't blame us for "stealing" it."

hahahahha, you see my Pashtun brothers and sisters? this is what I talk about, this is their mentality, they can piss on Pashtun history. I say this one more time half breed. Don't come double standards again, but yet I understand you are a coward lying sub human. Don't ever forget, Britain made Pakistan, it is a British construction just as Israel and half of Africa.

Your argument gives the Pashtun right to kick you out of Pashtun lands and when it happens your coward rulers will flew to Britain like your coward, president president Mushharaff did, (Evidence of British puppet).

And comparing Pashtuns to Jews? So Pashtuns has been living in more than 200+ states throw the time scale of 4000 years. Pashtuns have been kicked out from these 200+ states, hated for Pashtun usury, lies, human trafficking, scams, disrespect to others etc? I must be Kurd, because I missed the whole history of bad behaving Pashtuns.

Between, our blood brothers like, "Persians", Baluchis, etc that has been living by our side since the time of Ariana, has the same right as Pashtuns, no more no less. All of Pashtuns MUST respect the whole worlds population, but we don't want you to live in the same house as we, if you come and take some of our rooms by force like in 1947, then let it take 1000 years, we will find away to kick you out, but not only that, there will be punishment.

Don't forget Pasthuns are kind as Angels and their punishment can be as hard as the Angels as well.

[EvilPakistani]

@Loy-Afghanistan

I am just saying, let us be alone, we don't want to interfere in your business or country, don't play with fire or you will get burn in the end. You are not god, you can't decide who is Muslim who is not, typical behaviour of a haramzada who thinks he can decide if you are a Muslim or not, we will see on the judgement day what kind of people will go to hell, don't worry about Pashtuns. Uzbeks and other invasion people is non invented guests from Mongolia, etc. They come and occupy our soil, we never attacked them, they behave uncivilized and think power gives them right do to anything, such as the gov of pakistan, arabs, USA etc.

Well then if you don't want Pakistan interfering in your country, then recognize the Durand line,stop acting as an Indian puppet and take back all your refugees, if you do all of that,we'll treat your country like Iran(no interference).

I'm not saying whether your a Muslim or not, but I find it hypocritical when Pashtuns say they're Muslim first but then they would side with a Pashtun Muslim over a non-Pashtun Muslim even if the Pashtun is wrong, I've seen it happen, that's just downright hypocrisy.

hahahahha, you see my Pashtun brothers and sisters? this is what I talk about, this is their mentality, they can piss on Pashtun history. I say this one more time half breed. Don't come double standards again, but yet I understand you are a coward lying sub human. Don't ever forget, Britain made Pakistan, it is a British construction just as Israel and half of Africa.

I guess you can't read English that well,I wasn't pissing over Pashtun history, I respect Pashtun history/heritage, I was saying that your rulers surrendered their land to Britain, if they cared about Pashtuns they wouldn't have signed the Durand line agreement, but they did and now you must stick to your words, stop whining like children because you lost out, and now want to start over.

Pakistan might have been a British construction, but a lot of countries in the world are British "constructions", before the Brits came to South Asia, India didn't even exist they were divided into over 500 separate princley states, and the brits formed them into one country.

So if countries that were colonized by other countries don't have the right to exist, then almost no countries have the right to exist, and Pakistan might be a young country, but it takes time to create history, there's always a first time.

And comparing Pashtuns to Jews? So Pashtuns has been living in more than 200+ states throw the time scale of 4000 years. Pashtuns have been kicked out from these 200+ states, hated for Pashtun usury, lies, human trafficking, scams, disrespect to others etc? I must be Kurd, because I missed the whole history of bad behaving Pashtuns.

Dude you seriously need to work on your comprehension, I didn't compare the history of jews and Pashtuns, I compared the clan like mentality(they support their own), it isn't necessarily a bad thing.

I must be Kurd

You wish!

we don't want you to live in the same house as we, if you come and take some of our rooms by force like in 1947, then let it take 1000 years, we will find away to kick you out, but not only that, there will be punishment.

If you don't want to live in the same house as us, then why are their so many Pashtuns in Kashmir but almost no Kashmiris in Afghanistan?Why are there so many Pashtuns in Karachi(Khi has the most pashtuns in the world) and other parts of Pakistan?I do consider Pashtuns Pakistani(at least the ones born here), but why are there so many Afghan refugees in Pakistan?

Why do Afghans immigrate to pakistan and commit crimes,steal,rape and do all sorts of shiit?people living in houses made of glass shouldn't throw stones on other people.