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    PAKISTAN: The case of Pashtun genocide in the country

    Contributors: Kahar Zalmay




    FOR PUBLICATION
    AHRC-ETC-019-2013
    May 6, 2013
    An article by Kahar Zalmay published by the Asian Human Rights Commission


    Kahar Zalmay
    Pakistan is an interesting country and there are certain exciting things that only happen here. For instance, in our land of pure every now and then , a revolution is on its way, khakis keep on believing that this country is their constituency and keep on capturing it, Mullahs always find the religion in danger and the top judiciary wastes no time in taking sue motto notice against holding two bottles of whisky. As if all these are mundane the State grabs attention by seeking strategic depth into another sovereign state and it is our brave military that sub-contracts security to private militias', the Jihadis. The list of such stupidities seems endless. As was rightly pointed out once by the eminent Pakistani intellectual, I. A Rehman, people here are not citizens but subjects. But ironically even all subjects are not equal but some are less equal than the others. One most apt example of exploitation by the state since its inception is the Pashtuns, the residents of Khyber Pakhtunkha (KPK) who speak Pushtun language and reside in good numbers in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
    It is a known fact that the very existence of Pashtun is not tolerated in Pakistan. Our identity bothers the ruling elites and that is why it took them 60 years to give my people a name no matter how unrepresentative it may sound. I shall not be drawn into this argument that a Pashtun nationalist party is ruling the KP province when we all know that they are pawns in the game with no control. The nationalism of the Awami National Party (ANP), the former ruling party of KPK, is no more than a commercial enterprise.
    In 1948, the U.N. approved its Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (CPPCG), which defined genocide as any of a number of acts "committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group".
    Keeping in view the above definition of genocide, the situation of the Pashtuns meets the criteria very easily. Pashtun people on both sides are not only dying because of the Pakistan's security policy in the region but their culture, language, traditions and even identity is facing an onslaught in this country. The media, especially the Urdu media, has been very negative in its stereotyping. Its demonization and generalisation of the Pashtuns has left them at a loss for their identity and they are forced to ask whether they can call Pakistan home. A perception is created among the urbanite middle class of Pakistan that Pashtuns are cultural savages, backward and unable to assimilate into the mainstream culture. They are ridiculed in dramas, humour based shows and morning shows and their stigmatization is a routine occurrence on Pakistani TV channels and newspapers. Pashtuns have been alienated so much that they feel strangers in their own country. They feel disconnected in this connected world, despairing as they watch others build and realize their potential and curiosity.
    In a recent interview with the Caravan, a Britain-based magazine, the Chairman of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, Imran Khan said "These ears heard people saying: 'Small and dark. Kill them. Teach them a lesson'," he said. "I heard it with my own ears." He was referring to Bengalis who were once part of Pakistan. He added "It's exactly the same language which I hear this time," he said in the interview, adding that today it is Pashtuns who are ill-treated.
    "In Pindi, in Lahore, in Karachi, they've been picked up and thrown into jail because they are Pashtun. This is a sad legacy."
    To further explain my case I would give an example as to how they present Pashtuns on television screen. In a prime time drama scene a Pashtun is shown as security guard, a clown in fact. When he reports for duty at a house, the owner asks him to check if he has a brain before assigning him responsibility. If the other ethnicities had produced Einsteins, Russells, Newtons, then we won't mind but when they are as absurd and backward like the rest, then what actually makes them capable of demonizing the Pashtun race.
    Pashtuns are not only psychologically reduced through mainstream media especially TV but they are being systematically eliminated physically as well. Right after the division of India when the ruler of Kashmir was making up his mind about the future of his state, the military sent tribesmen to capture Kashmir but were later blamed for lootings and wasting the opportunity. Thus the foundation stone was set for sub-contracting security to individual groups. It is needless to emphasize that security is the job of the State.
    Dr. Farhat Taj, author of the Taliban and Anti-Taliban and member of the Totalitarian Research Network, University of Oslo says that 'On the Pakistani side of the Durand line Pashtun life and culture are systematically under attack for years. What was launched with the assassination of Farooq Wazir in 2003 as targeted killing of anti-Taliban Pashtun has now been turned in to indiscriminate killing of Pashtun from all walks of life, gender and age. Most victims of the terrorism and military operations in Pakistan are Pashtun, civilians, policemen and soldiers from both FCs (Frontier Constabulary and Frontier Corp). The Pashtun are simultaneously Arabized through attacks on symbols of Pashtun culture, Jirgas, dance, music and shrines of saints revered by Pashtun, such as Rahman Baba.'
    The militant groups like Razakars, Al-Badr and Al-Shams were used to wreak havoc on the unarmed Bengalis in the former East Pakistan that ultimately gained freedom to become Bangladesh. The military has this habit of not learning lessons and almost 20 years later, again private militias were launched and sent to Kashmir to stoke the fire of separatism. The recent phenomenon is the launching of Lashkars (collective tribal force) in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, Frontier Regions and districts bordering the tribal belt to fight against the Taliban thus exposing the tribesmen to militants and creating chaos in a society that is already passing through difficult times. One wonders what the purpose is of holding a large military apparatus if the battles are being waged by Pashtun civilians.
    It is no secret anymore that Pakistan supported the war in Afghanistan against the former Soviet Union funding and arming several Jihadi groups. After the withdrawal of Soviet Forces, the military establishment pitched one group against another that resulted into in-fighting costing thousands of Afghan lives. But Later, the Taliban, who were ethnically Pashtun, emerged on the scene and excelled their predecessors in inflicting destruction on Afghans for which cannon fodder was provided from Pakistan in shape of young madrassa students, mostly Pashtun male children.
    Following 9/11, the rules of the game changed and multi-ethnic terrorists were brought by the Pakistani government headed by General Musharraf to FATA as the State guests. The tribal belt was then turned into a large guest house where these terrorists stayed, relaxed and left on their missions furthering the expansionist ideology of the Pakistan Army.
    According to media reports, around 30 to 35 million Pashtuns living in Afghanistan and Pakistan have been the direct victims of the "war on terror" since 2001, when Pakistan became the partner of the USA in the "war on terror". The BBC has recently stated in special report that over 1000 tribal leaders were killed in FATA in different targeted incidents.
    Heinrich Boll Stiftung in a report on December 19, 2011 says that the fight against Taliban militants has been focused in the Pashtun belt, but also carried out throughout the country in general. In this fight, a total of 38,000 civilians, of which roughly 70 per cent were Pashtun, have lost their lives in the last decade.
    The horrifying video reported by Jane Perlez in an article of New York Times on September 29, 2010, showing Pakistan Army officers killing six innocent blind-folded teenagers some of them as young as 14 with their hands tied-back, shocked the world.
    But despite so much annihilation and loss of Pashtun lives, the military did not desist from its dream of expanding its empire to Afghanistan with one or another excuse. One wonders that while the Pashtuns of Pakistan have been standing in the dock like suspects for the last 65 years, Pakistan wants a Pashtun dominated government in Afghanistan. Is it a trick or a tale?
    The evidence implies that both the Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan are accused of being sponsored by the military establishment. There is this strong perception in Pashtuns on both sides of the border that this whole drama of militancy was played to kill Pashutns and pocket dollars coming in the shape of aid from the US and other Western countries. Numerous examples can be cited where Pashtuns were killed ruthlessly in FATA, FR Regions and Swat. The recent example is that of Bara, Khyber Agency, where 18 tribesmen were shot dead in broad day light in front of their houses. The whole Mehsud tribe was ripped up and thousands of tribal people from Bajaur and Mohmand agencies still live in camps. Jets, mortars, gunship helicopters are being used in FATA which are not used even by the Indian forces in Kashmir for the last 20 years where a full scale insurgency was going on.
    Ismail Mehsud whose family was displaced like the rest of his Mehsud tribe said his entire tribe has been displaced from its homeland, South Waziristan for the last five years. "Half a million members of Mehsud tribe were displaced from its land. We lost our houses, our fields, our cattle but what we got in return; our tribesmen became suspects wherever they settled in Pakistan. If this is not genocide what is it?" The operation Rah-e-Nijat that is going on for the last five years could not give us freedom from Taliban but it surely deprived us from our land, he added.
    Our ruling class (who rules this country? if anyone does not know then it is humbly suggested to try to find out the exact answer through this quote of Voltaire "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize". It needs bad guys to carry on their reign. The symbiotic relationship between the militancy in Pakistan and mercantile benefits are no longer in a closet.
    Without celebrating victimhood let us take the risk to assert a truth that hundreds of thousands of Pashtuns have been killed on both sides of the Durand Line and consumed as cannon fodder elsewhere in the military's pursuit for expansion but it is the writing on the wall that the taciturn rage in Pashtuns would soon speak up this beautiful word: 'Enough'.
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  • #2
    The ,,isi,,and army created a death squad in the napak army to kill as many pashtun as possible both in pashtunistan and afghanistan.
    Pakistan is afraid of the creation loy kor/loy pashtunistan or afghanistan.
    The punjabi establishment using pashtuns on all front including kashmir.



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    • #3
      Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
      The ,,isi,,and army created a death squad in the napak army to kill as many pashtun as possible both in pashtunistan and afghanistan.
      Pakistan is afraid of the creation loy kor/loy pashtunistan or afghanistan.
      The punjabi establishment using pashtuns on all front including kashmir.
      You are out of your mind. Pakistan does not have priority of Loy Pashtunistan. Neither does the Afghanistan.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
        PAKISTAN: The case of Pashtun genocide in the country
        ....

        Pakistan is an interesting country and there are certain exciting things that only happen here. For instance, in our land of pure every now and then , a revolution is on its way, khakis keep on believing that this country is their constituency and keep on capturing it, Mullahs always find the religion in danger and the top judiciary wastes no time in taking sue motto notice against holding two bottles of whisky. As if all these are mundane the State grabs attention by seeking strategic depth into another sovereign state and it is our brave military that sub-contracts security to private militias', the Jihadis. The list of such stupidities seems endless. As was rightly pointed out once by the eminent Pakistani intellectual, I. A Rehman, people here are not citizens but subjects. But ironically even all subjects are not equal but some are less equal than the others. One most apt example of exploitation by the state since its inception is the Pashtuns, the residents of Khyber Pakhtunkha (KPK) who speak Pushtun language and reside in good numbers in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
        It is a known fact that the very existence of Pashtun is not tolerated in Pakistan. Our identity bothers the ruling elites and that is why it took them 60 years to give my people a name no matter how unrepresentative it may sound. I shall not be drawn into this argument that a Pashtun nationalist party is ruling the KP province when we all know that they are pawns in the game with no control. The nationalism of the Awami National Party (ANP), the former ruling party of KPK, is no more than a commercial enterprise.
        In 1948, the U.N. approved its Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (CPPCG), which defined genocide as any of a number of acts "committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group".
        Keeping in view the above definition of genocide, the situation of the Pashtuns meets the criteria very easily. Pashtun people on both sides are not only dying because of the Pakistan's security policy in the region but their culture, language, traditions and even identity is facing an onslaught in this country. The media, especially the Urdu media, has been very negative in its stereotyping. Its demonization and generalisation of the Pashtuns has left them at a loss for their identity and they are forced to ask whether they can call Pakistan home. A perception is created among the urbanite middle class of Pakistan that Pashtuns are cultural savages, backward and unable to assimilate into the mainstream culture. They are ridiculed in dramas, humour based shows and morning shows and their stigmatization is a routine occurrence on Pakistani TV channels and newspapers. Pashtuns have been alienated so much that they feel strangers in their own country. They feel disconnected in this connected world, despairing as they watch others build and realize their potential and curiosity.
        In a recent interview with the Caravan, a Britain-based magazine, the Chairman of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, Imran Khan said "These ears heard people saying: 'Small and dark. Kill them. Teach them a lesson'," he said. "I heard it with my own ears." He was referring to Bengalis who were once part of Pakistan. He added "It's exactly the same language which I hear this time," he said in the interview, adding that today it is Pashtuns who are ill-treated.
        "In Pindi, in Lahore, in Karachi, they've been picked up and thrown into jail because they are Pashtun. This is a sad legacy."

        To further explain my case I would give an example as to how they present Pashtuns on television screen. In a prime time drama scene a Pashtun is shown as security guard, a clown in fact. When he reports for duty at a house, the owner asks him to check if he has a brain before assigning him responsibility. If the other ethnicities had produced Einsteins, Russells, Newtons, then we won't mind but when they are as absurd and backward like the rest, then what actually makes them capable of demonizing the Pashtun race.
        Pashtuns are not only psychologically reduced through mainstream media especially TV but they are being systematically eliminated physically as well. Right after the division of India when the ruler of Kashmir was making up his mind about the future of his state, the military sent tribesmen to capture Kashmir but were later blamed for lootings and wasting the opportunity. Thus the foundation stone was set for sub-contracting security to individual groups. It is needless to emphasize that security is the job of the State.
        Dr. Farhat Taj, author of the Taliban and Anti-Taliban and member of the Totalitarian Research Network, University of Oslo says that 'On the Pakistani side of the Durand line Pashtun life and culture are systematically under attack for years. What was launched with the assassination of Farooq Wazir in 2003 as targeted killing of anti-Taliban Pashtun has now been turned in to indiscriminate killing of Pashtun from all walks of life, gender and age. Most victims of the terrorism and military operations in Pakistan are Pashtun, civilians, policemen and soldiers from both FCs (Frontier Constabulary and Frontier Corp). The Pashtun are simultaneously Arabized through attacks on symbols of Pashtun culture, Jirgas, dance, music and shrines of saints revered by Pashtun, such as Rahman Baba.'
        The militant groups like Razakars, Al-Badr and Al-Shams were used to wreak havoc on the unarmed Bengalis in the former East Pakistan that ultimately gained freedom to become Bangladesh. The military has this habit of not learning lessons and almost 20 years later, again private militias were launched and sent to Kashmir to stoke the fire of separatism. The recent phenomenon is the launching of Lashkars (collective tribal force) in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, Frontier Regions and districts bordering the tribal belt to fight against the Taliban thus exposing the tribesmen to militants and creating chaos in a society that is already passing through difficult times. One wonders what the purpose is of holding a large military apparatus if the battles are being waged by Pashtun civilians.
        It is no secret anymore that Pakistan supported the war in Afghanistan against the former Soviet Union funding and arming several Jihadi groups. After the withdrawal of Soviet Forces, the military establishment pitched one group against another that resulted into in-fighting costing thousands of Afghan lives. But Later, the Taliban, who were ethnically Pashtun, emerged on the scene and excelled their predecessors in inflicting destruction on Afghans for which cannon fodder was provided from Pakistan in shape of young madrassa students, mostly Pashtun male children.
        Following 9/11, the rules of the game changed and multi-ethnic terrorists were brought by the Pakistani government headed by General Musharraf to FATA as the State guests. The tribal belt was then turned into a large guest house where these terrorists stayed, relaxed and left on their missions furthering the expansionist ideology of the Pakistan Army.
        According to media reports, around 30 to 35 million Pashtuns living in Afghanistan and Pakistan have been the direct victims of the "war on terror" since 2001, when Pakistan became the partner of the USA in the "war on terror". The BBC has recently stated in special report that over 1000 tribal leaders were killed in FATA in different targeted incidents.
        Heinrich Boll Stiftung in a report on December 19, 2011 says that the fight against Taliban militants has been focused in the Pashtun belt, but also carried out throughout the country in general. In this fight, a total of 38,000 civilians, of which roughly 70 per cent were Pashtun, have lost their lives in the last decade.
        The horrifying video reported by Jane Perlez in an article of New York Times on September 29, 2010, showing Pakistan Army officers killing six innocent blind-folded teenagers some of them as young as 14 with their hands tied-back, shocked the world.
        But despite so much annihilation and loss of Pashtun lives, the military did not desist from its dream of expanding its empire to Afghanistan with one or another excuse. One wonders that while the Pashtuns of Pakistan have been standing in the dock like suspects for the last 65 years, Pakistan wants a Pashtun dominated government in Afghanistan. Is it a trick or a tale?
        The evidence implies that both the Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan are accused of being sponsored by the military establishment. There is this strong perception in Pashtuns on both sides of the border that this whole drama of militancy was played to kill Pashutns and pocket dollars coming in the shape of aid from the US and other Western countries. Numerous examples can be cited where Pashtuns were killed ruthlessly in FATA, FR Regions and Swat. The recent example is that of Bara, Khyber Agency, where 18 tribesmen were shot dead in broad day light in front of their houses. The whole Mehsud tribe was ripped up and thousands of tribal people from Bajaur and Mohmand agencies still live in camps. Jets, mortars, gunship helicopters are being used in FATA which are not used even by the Indian forces in Kashmir for the last 20 years where a full scale insurgency was going on.
        Ismail Mehsud whose family was displaced like the rest of his Mehsud tribe said his entire tribe has been displaced from its homeland, South Waziristan for the last five years. "Half a million members of Mehsud tribe were displaced from its land. We lost our houses, our fields, our cattle but what we got in return; our tribesmen became suspects wherever they settled in Pakistan. If this is not genocide what is it?" The operation Rah-e-Nijat that is going on for the last five years could not give us freedom from Taliban but it surely deprived us from our land, he added.
        Our ruling class (who rules this country? if anyone does not know then it is humbly suggested to try to find out the exact answer through this quote of Voltaire "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize". It needs bad guys to carry on their reign. The symbiotic relationship between the militancy in Pakistan and mercantile benefits are no longer in a closet.
        Without celebrating victimhood let us take the risk to assert a truth that hundreds of thousands of Pashtuns have been killed on both sides of the Durand Line and consumed as cannon fodder elsewhere in the military's pursuit for expansion but it is the writing on the wall that the taciturn rage in Pashtuns would soon speak up this beautiful word: 'Enough'.
        .................
        1. If Bangladesh was still under the control of Pakistan and a similar crisis happened as in 1970-71 i.e. the Pakistanis refused to let a Bengali politician become prime minister, the Pakistan army would do another 1971 style genocide.

        The Pakistan army in the past few years has used fighter planes inside its own territory and bombed and killed Balochis and others.

        The Indian army has never used fighter planes in India.

        Another reason why 1971 happened was the sheer racial contempt in which the Pakistanis held Bengalis and do to this day (though their media does have many liberal writers who are respectful of Bengalis). To this day the Pakistanis harass Bangladesh and interfere in its affairs e.g.

        - Telling Saudi Arabia to stop hiring Bangladeshi workers when Bangladesh chooses an Awami League government, harassment of Bangladeshi workers inside Saudi Arabia when there is an Awami League government.


        - Involvement in an attempt to organize a coup in Bangladesh last year.

        - Allowing suspected war criminals such as Bachu Razakar to flee to safety in Pakistan.

        - Zardari interfering in Bangladeshi domestic affairs and telling the government to release war criminals.

        Nothing has changed, the Pakistanis and their Saudi brothers are as racist and anti-Bengali as ever.


        2. Many Pashtuns are indoctrinated and revere Pakistan, and some are even Punjabified, these are called "Pathans". One feature of a Pathan and symptomatic of their brainwashing is they care more about Indic Bengalis a thousand miles away than Afghan Pashtuns who are actually their own people. I am serious about this, ask a Pathan if he wants "East Pakistan" back or Afghanistan, he will tell you he doesn't care about Afghanistan but cares about "his" country or a former part of "his" country i.e. "east Pakistan".

        However aside from that on a more important note Pathans care very little for the atrocities of the Pakistani army and revere it.

        - 50,000 people dead, mainly Pashtuns.
        - 1 million Pashtun refugees.
        - Tribal system and culture destroyed in parts of Waziristan.

        None of these makes any difference to a "Pathan" e.g. Da Bannu Mazdigar style "Pathans".


        3. The existence of "Pathans" is a major obstacle to gaining Pashtun freedom or merely ending the war in Pakistani-occupied Pashtunkhwa

        4. If Balochistan gains its freedom, and only a year ago a few thousand Balochi fighters were able to make the then prime minister of Pakistan speak of a possible referendum on independence, then this will set off a domino effect as the next day the Sindhi nationalists will start copying the Balochis.

        There are far more Sindhis than Balochis and having given up one region the Punjabis will not want the headache of another war and more humiliation, they will not fight for long against the Sindhis.

        If Balochistan and Sindh leave, Pakistan in reality no longer exists and is merely a union of Pashtuns and Punjabis, I doubt Pashtuns will stay with the Punjabis in a 2 nation union.

        Thus a few thousand Balochis may decide the fate of 180 million Pakistanis.



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        • #5
          Im sorry but I find it very hard to sympathize. As much as I have love for all Pashtuns, the Pashtuns of Pakistan have made their bed, now sleep in it

          To this day, the dumb uneducated Pashtun jumps up and down for Pakistaniyat, and throws himself into the frontlines against India

          I hope the neo Mughal elite of Pakistan clamps down on yall even more

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          • #6
            lol sometime i wonder

            the Pakistaniyat is so strong that even the strongest pashtuns had already fallen into this trap
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            • #7
              I will be honest but just to show how indoctrinated many "Pakistani" Pashtuns have become, let me give you an example.

              If hypothetically speaking there was a referendum amongst Pakistani Pashtuns on whether "East Pakistan" (Bangladesh) should be brought back under Pakistani control or Afghanistan/or Pashtun areas of Afghanistan should be under Pakistani control, I wouldn't be surprised if the majority say they want "East Pakistan" back.

              However Pashtuns in FATA (with one or two individual exceptions) and some parts of Junoobi Pakhtunkhwa (northern Balochistan) live in the real world and would definitely want to be with Afghans in this hypothetical situation.

              If anyone doubts how much "Pathans" are more concerned about "east Pakistan" (Bangladesh) then Afghanistan please feel free to ask me more and I can elaborate.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
                I will be honest but just to show how indoctrinated many "Pakistani" Pashtuns have become, let me give you an example.

                If hypothetically speaking there was a referendum amongst Pakistani Pashtuns on whether "East Pakistan" (Bangladesh) should be brought back under Pakistani control or Afghanistan/or Pashtun areas of Afghanistan should be under Pakistani control, I wouldn't be surprised if the majority say they want "East Pakistan" back.

                However Pashtuns in FATA (with one or two individual exceptions) and some parts of Junoobi Pakhtunkhwa (northern Balochistan) live in the real world and would definitely want to be with Afghans in this hypothetical situation.

                If anyone doubts how much "Pathans" are more concerned about "east Pakistan" (Bangladesh) then Afghanistan please feel free to ask me more and I can elaborate.
                Many in Pashtuns region of Pakistan don't even know whether bangladesh either was part of Pakistan or not.

                Bangladesh were always different people and had to get split one way or another
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
                  I will be honest but just to show how indoctrinated many "Pakistani" Pashtuns have become, let me give you an example.

                  If hypothetically speaking there was a referendum amongst Pakistani Pashtuns on whether "East Pakistan" (Bangladesh) should be brought back under Pakistani control or Afghanistan/or Pashtun areas of Afghanistan should be under Pakistani control, I wouldn't be surprised if the majority say they want "East Pakistan" back.

                  However Pashtuns in FATA (with one or two individual exceptions) and some parts of Junoobi Pakhtunkhwa (northern Balochistan) live in the real world and would definitely want to be with Afghans in this hypothetical situation.

                  If anyone doubts how much "Pathans" are more concerned about "east Pakistan" (Bangladesh) then Afghanistan please feel free to ask me more and I can elaborate.
                  I think even the tribal Pashtuns in FATA are smart enough to realize that their future lies with Pakistan. I've never heard the TTP or Mehsuds call for secession.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Al-Afghani View Post
                    I think even the tribal Pashtuns in FATA are smart enough to realize that their future lies with Pakistan. I've never heard the TTP or Mehsuds call for secession.
                    Why would they do when they see all the afghan moving into Pakistan and getting citizenship.

                    not just a couple of lacs but in millions.the 1-2million registered afghan refugees are note even 1/3rd of the afghan refugees who really came to Pakistan.

                    Afghan are moving into Pakistan in millions this would leave a complete different impression on the Pakistanis pashtuns.Beside this unlike India or western countries.Pakistan is a Islamic Country and Pashtuns are muslims aswell.Pakistan doesnt mean a land of Punjabis but rather Pakistan was made for Muslims.

                    This is the reason we in Pakistan not only have Pashtuns,Punjabi,Sindhi and Baloch but tajiks,hazara,uzbek.

                    The southern township of Bannu is completely occupied by Tajiks.Ghafar azeri my brother classmate in matric was a Bannu board topper and he's a tajik.

                    So Pakistan is a country for Muslims this is the reason we have

                    pashtuns
                    tajiks,
                    uzbeks
                    hazara
                    punjabi
                    baloch
                    sindhi
                    saraiki
                    mahajir

                    And the White of Pakistan is reserved for minority

                    Hindu
                    SIkh
                    Christians.
                    Ahmadia

                    And i am proud of them
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                      Why would they do when they see all the afghan moving into Pakistan and getting citizenship.

                      [...]
                      Yes, Pakistan has very well integrated their minorities and new comers. Only some Baloch tribes are not yet in the mainstream.

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                      • #12
                        Diversity in Pakistan

                        Sikh in Pakistan army




                        Hazara in Pakistan army
                        He was Chief of army staff of Pakistan army



                        Christan in PAF
                        Fighter pilot of JF-17

                        ROnald



                        First Pakistani female fighter aircraft batch had 2 Hazara origin Female of total 4



                        and more such to follow
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Al-Afghani View Post
                          Yes, Pakistan has very well integrated their minorities and new comers. Only some Baloch tribes are not yet in the mainstream.
                          Alas,If the TTP would had not been created,Pakistan was heading toward a knowledge based economy.

                          If we exclude the TTP and terrorism factor.The Pakistanis are extremely well socially integrated under a common religion Islam.Under Islam majority of the culture are somehow similar.

                          Pre Islamic era the arab and persians had nothing in common today if we exclude only the language rest everything is same.

                          I believe the Future of Pakistan is also bright agian.The worst period is almost over.Today everyone in Pakistan hates taliban and are more into education.
                          I believe by 2020 Pakistan literacy rate will atleast touch 75% or may be even More.

                          This is the reason IMF 2050 prediction put pakistan as one of the world top 20 GDP's even though when though the growth rate taken for pakistan was just 2% as an average upto 2050.
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                          • #14
                            If pakistan become the world ,s richest country the suffering of minorities such as pashtun and baluch will continue.
                            The more pakistan grow the more pashtun will suffer.
                            In pakistan they use lahori islam to make fool of us.
                            I will never ever give up my dream of pashtun watan where i will be in peace even in grave.
                            I want every pashtun child to learn and sing the pashtunistan ,,tarana,,,a zama watana da lalono khazanay zama ,,,,,,in school.
                            I want to leave my area in the morning have my lunch in pekhawar and dinner in queta by following the next morning in kandaar.
                            I wish i have the red colour passport of azad pashtunistan watan.
                            I teach all these things and others to my family kids such as nephews etc.
                            I am also writing my dairy in pashtu for my future generation never to follow pakistani media,system and never accept this country,s creation.



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                            pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
                            be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
                            gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
                            be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
                            hamza baba
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                              My pashtun pride wazirstan was ruined.My beautifull swat was bombed.
                              My geratmand pashtaana of terah,khyber,orakzais and bajawor were killed and insulted.The pashtun paris peshawar where as a child i always ask my baba to take me there has become the center of terror where peopel do,nt know whether they will get home alive or not.
                              My poor people are looking for work in the street of punjab and karachi.They have everything in their gran watan but have no control over sources.
                              My poor pashtanay khwanday will look for peace of wood to cook for family in karak and the karakwal gas will be use by punjabi women cus their hands are too soft for using woods.
                              Our young pashtuns will work for the rest of thier life in dubai to feed their families.
                              Husbands and wives will meet eachother when they are about to die.
                              Our educated zwanan will always look for job accross indus river why?
                              Why the lush green fertile land of swaby,mardan and charsada is not suitable for anything.
                              If you can build factories in punjab ,why not build it here?
                              why not employee our people in our industries.
                              Everyday the tones of timber smuggled from hazara to punjab with authorization from punjabi jahangir tareen to make him more rich with pashtun owned timber.
                              Our electricity and you name it.
                              Our own electricity is more expensive in pashtunkhwa then punjab.
                              Poor pashtun children from accorss the durandline have no future in camps.
                              No education and jobs.They are becoming fuel for pakistani terror why?
                              Will a true pashtun blood will not boil if see this unjustice and many more.This is just the short story.
                              For 60 years dalkhor oppose the renaming of my own home.
                              The baluchi supported,the sindis,the seraikis but the langmar punjabi was getting mad.
                              Our own pakhtun become benang.Both side of durandline not just one
                              pa khpala khawra nang na kawoo
                              pa khpal olas nang na kawoo
                              pa khpala jaba aw kaltoor nang na kawoo

                              yaa kho za na pohagum yaa da khalak,,,,,,
                              khwaha staaso.



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                              pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
                              be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
                              gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
                              be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
                              hamza baba
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