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    Karzai Pulls The Rug On The U.S. -- Again


    Posted By Dan Lamothe Thursday, November 21, 2013 - 4:06 PM




    The U.S. installed Hamid Karzai as the president of Afghanistan more than a decade ago, and has consulted with him regularly since in their up-and-down relationship during 12 years of war. The latest reward: Karzai told tribal leaders Thursday he doesn't trust the U.S., and suggested the signing of a long-sought security agreement he reached with senior U.S. officials should be punted to the next Afghan head of state.
    The comments came at the start of a loya jirga, an assembly of some 2,500 Afghan tribal leaders that could scuttle the bilateral security agreement Karzai has reached with the U.S. As part of it, President Obama sent a letter to Karzai on Wednesday, offering regret that Afghan civilians were killed in the war and assurances that in the future, U.S. troops will not enter Afghan homes for military operations "except under extraordinary circumstances involving urgent risk to life and limb of U.S. nationals."
    Karzai seeking those assurances had raised questions whether a deal could be reached. Still, even with them covered in Obama's letter, Karzai pulled his best impression of Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown, telling tribal leaders the security deal should not be signed until 2014, after an election to replace him is held. He did advocate the tribal elders approving the deal, but fired a shot across the bow at Americans in the process.
    "My trust with America is not good. I don't trust them and they don't trust me," Karzai said, according to reports from Kabul. "During the past 10 years I have fought with them and they have made propaganda against me."
    The decision immediately complicates the U.S.'s already uncertain future in Afghanistan. One U.S. official in Afghanistan told Foreign Policy he finds it hard to believe that Karzai's replacement will be able to sign the security agreement as one of his first acts in office, considering the mixed feelings in Afghanistan about the U.S. presence there. That would be a major problem, considering the U.S.'s 2014 deadline to withdraw thousands more combat forces from the war zone.
    "It just doesn't make sense from the Afghan perspective," said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity. "The next president will... want to do all he can to show Afghan sovereignty. Being so closely tied to the U.S. via the [agreement] would seriously undermine that, particularly as a first major initiative."
    The draft agreement, posted online by the Afghan government, calls for a residual force - likely to be about 10,000 troops -- to remain after 2014. Bases would be in nine locations: Kabul, Bagram, Mazar-i-Sharif, Herat, Kandahar, Gardez, Jalabad, Shindand and Helmand province. It also requires the U.S. to continue funding the Afghan National Security Forces, and a key provision in which U.S. troops will be granted immunity from prosecution by the Afghan government. Iraq's unwillingness to grant similar protections led the U.S. to pull nearly all of its troops in 2011, setting the stage for an explosion in sectarian violence there this year.
    Given all that, why would Karzai pass the buck? Analysts suggest the Afghan president wants a secure place in Afghan history, and may see more negatives than positives for his legacy among the Afghan people in signing on the dotted line.
    Michael O'Hanlon, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institute, said it appears that Karzai wants to share the political burden for the decisions he is faced with, rather than executing them himself. Not signing the security agreement now also gives him leverage over the U.S. in how the election to replace him plays out, O'Hanlon said. It also creates the possibility that the Afghan government could demand more concessions later.
    "I always thought he would be inclined to draw it out, and this may be one more effort to do just that," O'Hanlon said. "He's always willing to put in caveats and exceptions and note his skepticism of the United States."
    The best thing the U.S. can do at this point is act as though the agreement has been reached in principle, and adjust course later as necessary, O'Hanlon said. Karzai's comments complicate the future, but it also serves as affirmation that he truly is stepping down as president, he added.
    Retired Army Lt. Gen. David Barno, a senior adviser at the Center for a New American Security in Washington, said Karzai may hope to continue in Kabul in an unofficial "president-emeritus" role, and doesn't want to be seen as being too close to U.S. leaders. U.S. officials were likely hoping he'd sign the security agreement sooner rather than later, he said, but it's unlikely they'll be shocked by his change in tune.
    "We've seen a lot of zig-zags in the pattern going foward," said Barno, who interacted with Karzai from 2003 to 2005 while leading coalition operations across the country. "I'm sure they were disappointed to see this, but I'm not sure they were entirely surprised."
    Last edited by Shah-i-Kot; 11-22-2013, 11:57 PM.

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    lol Is the puppet about to pull a Shah Shuja? His going to delay signing this tissue paper and let the next president sign it.

    Which presidential candidate is actually going to run on a platform that says they will support the US war and tissue paper BSA? Sham elections will be interesting after all.
    Last edited by Shah-i-Kot; 11-23-2013, 12:01 AM.

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    • #3
      Karzai has made a career out of these kinds of actions. Guy is a slave but then he says something or does something to make it seem like he has some semblance of independence. Then after a phone call from Washington, he falls back into line like a child who got spanked by his parent.
      There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

      Sayyid Qutb

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      • #4
        in the end of his speech karzai said
        "dar tawafoqnama faidey mast wa dar isteqlal ezathey ma"
        which means in this agreement is our benefit and in independence is honour.

        what does he mean by that? and he surely was compating the YES and NO votes.
        so does that mean that agreement is in benefit of AFG but there is no honour in it?
        while NO to agreement means independent AFG with no benefits?

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        • #5
          usa fashism forced on afghans nothing more
          its usa created puppetgoverment in afghanistan its usa war in afghanistan.no afghan was involved on sep 11 no plans was made in afghanistan.afghanistan was on the best way to be again a stabil country and region and usa destroyed it with their invasion now they forcing their ideogy and nonsense on afghans. did they not destroyed enough of afghanistan in the 80's`?
          afghanistan should not accept usa rules on afghanland us soldiers are enemys of afghanistan they moving freely on afghanland that is not acceptabl.hope the afghan resistance will growin the usa should be kicked out from afghanistan like from iraq.
          Last edited by Khilji; 11-23-2013, 09:30 AM.

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