can AFG survive economically without USA?

[Khilji]

Afghanistan doesn't have a government, if it did, the government would be able to make a deal with China, India, Russia and other alternatives. But since we have no government of our own, we cannot make deals.

A deal that is based on charity is no deal. No country will give you charity. So those who are in favor of America are suggesting America is giving us charity.

We can have a much more realistic plan with other countries.

China needs electricity, we can ask China to invest in our country to build dams to produce electricity. We can receive lots of money and job opportunity with a deal like that.

We can make financial and trade agreements with other countries. We can allow others to invest in our education facilities like India or European countries in exchange for access to our natural resources.

There are many options. But since we have a bunch of prostitutes as government, we can't make any other deal than being slaves.

usa wastet 3 trillion dollars for their war in afghanistan with that money you could rebuild afghanistan 3 times.usa did nothing for afghanistan they dont brought peace and they dont brought stability.they brought 12 years war and occupation to afghanistan protected and supported opium-trade cant win or handle the war alone in afghanistan and some care about the little economy in afghanistan that is usa founded and payed by usa tax.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

#1) Aid makes countries, in this case Afghanistan lazy.
#2)Afghanistan would never be able to stand on its feed, if it continues to be fed, and if corruption continues to fuel the economy.

[MENTION=1772]BarakzaiAbdali[/MENTION] might be able to agree that with the current natural resources of Afghanistan, if the nation is let alone, it can stand on its own, the problem is consistent interference in her foreign affairs.

Lets just compare Afghanistan to person.

All of us knows at least someone who is an adult and is still being supported by his family and friends. We all know that such men always end up as failures.

This is typical for human beings as individuals but also for social groups.

If Afghans fail to take responsibility for their own actions and future, even Allah won't help us.

In fact, the reason why we are in this mess, is not because Allah forgot about us. It is because we are a corrupt, lazy, and irresponsible nation.

Only hardworking realistic people survive. Even if you are kaafir, if you work hard, if you take care of your own, if you are patient, you will survive and prosper.

This is the law of nature. Even in the animal kingdom, it is the same.

You don't need to be a scientist or a theologian to answer this question.

We are a failure because we fail ourselves. Thats just the truth.

[Zazai]

China needs electricity, we can ask China to invest in our country to build dams to produce electricity. We can receive lots of money and job opportunity with a deal like that.

We can make financial and trade agreements with other countries. We can allow others to invest in our education facilities like India or European countries in exchange for access to our natural resources.

OK, finally some economic thinking. But AFG also needs electricity... how can we give to others, what we don't have ourselves?

And other natural resources, will take 10-15 years to even start to come out of the ground........ how does a country survive without money for so long? if there's a new government, how is it going to fund its employees????

btw: i also liked you example of a person getting spoiled, if he depends on others. it is also said: a tree that grows in the shadow of another, doesn't grow big.

[Khilji]

OK, finally some economic thinking. But AFG also needs electricity... how can we give to others, what we don't have ourselves?

And other natural resources, will take 10-15 years to even start to come out of the ground........ how does a country survive without money for so long? if there's a new government, how is it going to fund its employees????

btw: i also liked you example of a person getting spoiled, if he depends on others. it is also said: a tree that grows in the shadow of another, doesn't grow big.

afghanistan could have but usa wasting his time for their pathetic war a eletric dam a hydro electric dam would solve the problem and would give more eletric to afghanistan than afghanistan needs sry for the bad englisi

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

during the discussion, he said, they've funded hospitals, schools, build bridges, airports, electrical facilities, roads are easy to travel (used to be a nightmare to travel), brought food/medicines/vaccines to villages, funded the army/police/courts, and so on!

First of all, tell this person to read this book: Kabul in Winter: Life Without Peace in Afghanistan: Ann Jones: 9780312426590: Amazon.com: Books

Mokhalifeene dawlat are motivated to do mukhalifat. This mokhalifat is fed by:

Corrupt government
False promises
Increasing contrast between rich and poor
violation of local customs and traditions by the armed foreigners
Religious convictions

Lets say Pakistan and Iran are feuling the opposition, are those in the opposition a bunch of zombies? Don't they have families, dreams and desires?

Why is it that thousands of people are willing to oppose peace, stability, prosperity and better future?

The answer is, that those who claim that people are against peace and prosperity are lying and using the same methods George Bush was using when he said that Al Qaeda hate his freedom.

The reality is that people are motivated by lack of stability and limited chances for a better future. Religion is probably the last part of conviction for many to oppose the so called government.

People don't see any positive changes.

[DSM0305]

So what is the solution?

Do like everyone else, milk the cow.

If we pretend USA is a cow and we are the farmer. Then we have to do what a logical person will do, milk the cow for as long he can.

Every person see the benefit of it surroundings and try to use the most beneficial way possible.

There wont be any investment in Afghanistan without USA. No one is stupid enough to waste millions of money in a country that can assure guaranty (both military wise and economical)

Lets be honest, the only reason there have been any investment in Afghanistan in these past 10 years is solely because USA is some sort of guaranty for foreign investors.

Afghanistan as a country will survive with or without USA (no one gonna shoot an atomic bomb at Afghanistan and make it inhabitable), but the question isn't whatever Afghanistan survives or not. The question remains how it will survive and how much influence Afghanistan will have in the world and the region.

Your influence in the world and the region is determined by the money your nation have. There is no difference between Afghanistan or any other nation beside the amount of money. With money the nation can invest in military, education, infrastructure, technology, medicine etc.

Many people says we will be considered beggars if we have some sort of agreement with USA. The fact remains that we will still be beggars without USA. The only difference will be, that we will be begging Pakistan and Iran for help.

The fact is, those who are poor will always be beggars regardless of a paper. At least we will have a paper that makes it a diplomatic relation and will build our economy up. Who knows, maybe in the future other nations will be begging to us.

Basically this world is all about ripping another country and milk it for its own benefit, every single country does it. Afghanistan should do the same. To Afghanistans luck, the other country is begging to be milked from money.

[Khilji]

Do like everyone else, milk the cow.

If we pretend USA is a cow and we are the farmer. Then we have to do what a logical person will do, milk the cow for as long he can.

Every person see the benefit of it surroundings and try to use the most beneficial way possible.

There wont be any investment in Afghanistan without USA. No one is stupid enough to waste millions of money in a country that can assure guaranty (both military wise and economical)

Lets be honest, the only reason there have been any investment in Afghanistan in these past 10 years is solely because USA is some sort of guaranty for foreign investors.

Afghanistan as a country will survive with or without USA (no one gonna shoot an atomic bomb at Afghanistan and make it inhabitable), but the question isn't whatever Afghanistan survives or not. The question remains how it will survive and how much influence Afghanistan will have in the world and the region.

Your influence in the world and the region is determined by the money your nation have. There is no difference between Afghanistan or any other nation beside the amount of money. With money the nation can invest in military, education, infrastructure, technology, medicine etc.

Many people says we will be considered beggars if we have some sort of agreement with USA. The fact remains that we will still be beggars without USA. The only difference will be, that we will be begging Pakistan and Iran for help.

The fact is, those who are poor will always be beggars regardless of a paper. At least we will have a paper that makes it a diplomatic relation and will build our economy up. Who knows, maybe in the future other nations will be begging to us.

Basically this world is all about ripping another country and milk it for its own benefit, every single country does it. Afghanistan should do the same. To Afghanistans luck, the other country is begging to be milked from money.

milking usa is that not the economy of pakistan?

[khushal]

the milk is not going to the people, it is going to a few elites hence the anarchy.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

OK, finally some economic thinking. But AFG also needs electricity... how can we give to others, what we don't have ourselves?

And other natural resources, will take 10-15 years to even start to come out of the ground........ how does a country survive without money for so long? if there's a new government, how is it going to fund its employees????

btw: i also liked you example of a person getting spoiled, if he depends on others. it is also said: a tree that grows in the shadow of another, doesn't grow big.

Is America providing electricity?

No. Central Asian republics do because America prohibits us from making lucrative deals with China.

We can make a deal with investors. We can offer those specialized in extracting resources a deal: they get the rights to extract in exchange for advanced payments now to stimulate our economy.

[Badlun]

USA like any other developed country of the world is the Blessing, Savior, Friend, Helper and a Messiah for Muslims and Pashtuns

Many are of the view that USA should immediately withdraw its forces from Afghanistan and else where. The withdrawal or defeat of USA/NATO in Afghanistan will be the defeat of democracy, development and the war against terrorism.

The ultimate winners will be the barbarian Taliban and the war lords and Afghanistan will be pushed once again in feudal clashes and war among various ethnicities and religious groups and parties. USA must finish its real Jihad against the Taliban and once its Mission is fully accomplished may leave Afghanistan and may hand over all the power and authority to the Afghan forces and Afghan government.

USA may not leave the Afghan people in lurch and may not create the same vacuum once created after the withdrawal of the former USSR otherwise the same mess will be created once again.

What USA should do is to rethink its strategy for Afghanistan and Pashtuns. The hearts of common Pashtuns should be won with books not with bullets. Democracy and development will indirectly wipe out the obscurantist bigots and terrorists. The bullets should only be used against the terrorists in an intelligent way so that the terrorists don’t cash the collateral damages against USA and win more sympathizers for their evil cause and against democracy, West and USA.

Afghan people should choose between USA their savior and the Taliban bandits. For me if the choice has to be between USA and Taliban I shall definitely prefer USA and not the harsh barbarian Taliban. We must be grateful to USA who is the only country in the world really interested in exterminating the menace of Taliban and who is fighting our own war.

USA is a friend not a foe and Pashtuns must cash this opportunity of the help extended by USA and may follow Japan after the World War II who befriended the US instead of fighting against the super power of the world and the champion of democracy , development and human rights.

USA or an NGO working for democracy and human rights in Afghanistan and Pakistan should use its funds on education, publicity and awareness. USA may start a special newspaper and a magazine of good quality in Pashto where the Pashtuns should be educated against terrorism and should provide good news and healthy entertainment. USA may learn from the past how communism won hearts even for its ugly agenda.

There is a dire need of intense public diplomacy on the part of USA. Majority of things they are doing is good but people don't know and can’t appreciate it.

Sometimes I wonder USA inspite of its democracy, human rights, development, prosperity, international aid has a negative image problem and many hate this superpower in spite of all its virtues. This country has changed the life of many persons and families.

Many poor people of the world after entry to this land of opportunities become prosperous which completely change their life standard and that of their families. I personally know many such persons and families.USA is spending billions of aid on poverty and social development. It’s extending all possible help against natural disasters. It’s running thousands of education and health projects through out the world.

Their war in Iraq and Afghanistan besides their national interest is against terrorism and dictatorship. What they lack is public diplomacy and positive propaganda to let the world know what they are contributing to the development of the world. Once people know it they shall start loving USA instead of hating this great country. They need propaganda as was done by USSR for communism although communism is worse than democracy and the record of USSR is bloodier than USA.

USA has fought wars like any other country, nation or power. Former USSR has not only fought wars but also conquered countries and made them part of the Union. We all know the history from Poland, to East Germany to Tajikistan to Afghanistan. The same was done by Muslims , by Pashtuns by Germans, by Turks and others when they were in power.

It’s all power politics and balance of power game. This is what Realism teaches us. That’s why USA is not the only country or nation in this regard. USA like any other country or power has reasons for her wars.

We should not only look at USA only as a country which fights wars or invades others. At least it does not conquer countries physically like others. We should also consider its humanitarian, developmental and other positive role in the world as well as its own internal development and progress as a nation.

USA may not be a paragon of virtue but whatever I know that they toppled communist, Nazis, fascists, and dictators and are now crushing extremists like Taliban and Al Qaida. I don't know a single case where it has toppled a democratically elected government.

In its own national interest it might have invaded countries but the same is the tradition of all big powers including Muslims and Pashtuns. What I know that except few very tiny states, USA has never physically occupied a country and has merged it with United States of America as was done by the former USSR and others.

USA is not perfect and such kind of discussions may point out whatever they lack in their policies and strategies and if they are intelligent enough, can learn from such discussions so that they can better tackle world affairs being a super power of the world.

What I see is that USA being a state may look for her national interest first. This world is mostly based on realism and real politick not on idealism or wishful thinking. If USA cheats others, they may do it in their own interest. The cheated party may guard against their own interest so that they may not be cheated by USA.

However USA being world super power may play more ethically, may not forget her good friends and may not let their allies and friends to feel cheated.

USA is a very strange country. Spending billions and trillions on humanitarian and other aids but does not cash it in public diplomacy. I am surprised that why USA not like the erstwhile USSR does not launch an ideological campaign for democracy and human rights as used to be done by the former USSR for the barbaric Communism.

USA can earn hearts and minds of the millions of Pashtuns and Muslims if they launch such an intelligent propaganda program. USA can serve their savior from the terrorists, from poverty and ignorance.

I wish that some friends from USA , US citizens or the one who are living in USA to write and express themselves that how is life over there and how the ideal life people are enjoying in USA and which can be exported to other countries specially to the backward Muslim world and to the conservative world of Pashtuns.

I wish the world may follow USA as a great model for success, happiness and great life. USA and its system may be followed as an ideology, as a code of life. Scholars should construct theoretical background for it , a philosophy and then a working plan as how the American ideals can be propagated in other parts of the world specially in Muslim countries, third world poor countries and in our case for Pashtunland.

We must take it very seriously that the defeat of NATO and USA will be the victory of the Taliban and Salafism which are highly antidemocratic forces and for them democracy is infidelity or Kufr. Also it will be the triumph of the warlords and other conservative and non democratic elements. We must strengthen the hands of our saviorm our helper, our friend and the one who has the panacea for all our ills.

At the same time USA may change its policy and may give books to common Afghans and bullets to the terrorists. People in Afghanistan may also help the US and NATO forces so that they can easily target the wrong doers with out damage to the innocent citizens.

We must appreciate that contribution of USA towards democracy is more than its anti-democracy attempts or support for some dictators or kings as in Middle East. However USA like every nation first looks to its own national interest then interest of a friend or ally.

But this trend for USA being the sole super power of the world may change as a super power may not think only as a country but a responsible state in the world affairs whose decisions not only affect its own people but the world at large. USA needs more propaganda for what they are doing. They do but don’t get the credit.

As ealier said USA is not the only invader or conqueror of the world. A long list of US invasions and intervensions can be made as in Panama, Cuba, Vietnam , the Philippines, Iraq, Afghanistan and else where but if we start making a similar list that how Arabs started from Makkah and Madina and conquered the whole known world at that time then the list of the wars of the USA will seem very tiny. Arabs not only conquered the land but also made it part of their empire and changed the culture and religion of the people they conquered.

We must be realistic in our approach and our subjective notions and prejudices may not hinder us in giving the credit to USA for its noble intentions and noble deeds. Before labeling me as a US stooge or whatever the readers may please read the article patiently and may comment on the substance not on the person. One may present an opposite case which will even help the USA to reform and improve.

This argument is also very weak that USA is in Afghanistan because of other ulterior motives as occupying the natural resources. How a rich developed USA will lose billions of dollars and hundreds of its soldiers just to occupy few hidden mineral resources in Afghanistan. Why not USA does so by investment and trade instead of launching such bloody wars.

The main purpose of the USA is to do away with the religious extremists and terrorists which are our common enemies for both the US and for us the common Pashtuns. That’s why its our moral and national duty to strengthen the hands of USA and to request the US forces to stay till the menace is completely wiped out. Once terrorism is over economy will automatically improve and USA can be a partner in prosperity and development.

[Khilji]

USA like any other developed country of the world is the Blessing, Savior, Friend, Helper and a Messiah for Muslims and Pashtuns

Many are of the view that USA should immediately withdraw its forces from Afghanistan and else where. The withdrawal or defeat of USA/NATO in Afghanistan will be the defeat of democracy, development and the war against terrorism.

The ultimate winners will be the barbarian Taliban and the war lords and Afghanistan will be pushed once again in feudal clashes and war among various ethnicities and religious groups and parties. USA must finish its real Jihad against the Taliban and once its Mission is fully accomplished may leave Afghanistan and may hand over all the power and authority to the Afghan forces and Afghan government.

USA may not leave the Afghan people in lurch and may not create the same vacuum once created after the withdrawal of the former USSR otherwise the same mess will be created once again.

What USA should do is to rethink its strategy for Afghanistan and Pashtuns. The hearts of common Pashtuns should be won with books not with bullets. Democracy and development will indirectly wipe out the obscurantist bigots and terrorists. The bullets should only be used against the terrorists in an intelligent way so that the terrorists don’t cash the collateral damages against USA and win more sympathizers for their evil cause and against democracy, West and USA.

Afghan people should choose between USA their savior and the Taliban bandits. For me if the choice has to be between USA and Taliban I shall definitely prefer USA and not the harsh barbarian Taliban. We must be grateful to USA who is the only country in the world really interested in exterminating the menace of Taliban and who is fighting our own war.

USA is a friend not a foe and Pashtuns must cash this opportunity of the help extended by USA and may follow Japan after the World War II who befriended the US instead of fighting against the super power of the world and the champion of democracy , development and human rights.

USA or an NGO working for democracy and human rights in Afghanistan and Pakistan should use its funds on education, publicity and awareness. USA may start a special newspaper and a magazine of good quality in Pashto where the Pashtuns should be educated against terrorism and should provide good news and healthy entertainment. USA may learn from the past how communism won hearts even for its ugly agenda.

There is a dire need of intense public diplomacy on the part of USA. Majority of things they are doing is good but people don't know and can’t appreciate it.

Sometimes I wonder USA inspite of its democracy, human rights, development, prosperity, international aid has a negative image problem and many hate this superpower in spite of all its virtues. This country has changed the life of many persons and families.

Many poor people of the world after entry to this land of opportunities become prosperous which completely change their life standard and that of their families. I personally know many such persons and families.USA is spending billions of aid on poverty and social development. It’s extending all possible help against natural disasters. It’s running thousands of education and health projects through out the world.

Their war in Iraq and Afghanistan besides their national interest is against terrorism and dictatorship. What they lack is public diplomacy and positive propaganda to let the world know what they are contributing to the development of the world. Once people know it they shall start loving USA instead of hating this great country. They need propaganda as was done by USSR for communism although communism is worse than democracy and the record of USSR is bloodier than USA.

USA has fought wars like any other country, nation or power. Former USSR has not only fought wars but also conquered countries and made them part of the Union. We all know the history from Poland, to East Germany to Tajikistan to Afghanistan. The same was done by Muslims , by Pashtuns by Germans, by Turks and others when they were in power.

It’s all power politics and balance of power game. This is what Realism teaches us. That’s why USA is not the only country or nation in this regard. USA like any other country or power has reasons for her wars.

We should not only look at USA only as a country which fights wars or invades others. At least it does not conquer countries physically like others. We should also consider its humanitarian, developmental and other positive role in the world as well as its own internal development and progress as a nation.

USA may not be a paragon of virtue but whatever I know that they toppled communist, Nazis, fascists, and dictators and are now crushing extremists like Taliban and Al Qaida. I don't know a single case where it has toppled a democratically elected government.

In its own national interest it might have invaded countries but the same is the tradition of all big powers including Muslims and Pashtuns. What I know that except few very tiny states, USA has never physically occupied a country and has merged it with United States of America as was done by the former USSR and others.

USA is not perfect and such kind of discussions may point out whatever they lack in their policies and strategies and if they are intelligent enough, can learn from such discussions so that they can better tackle world affairs being a super power of the world.

What I see is that USA being a state may look for her national interest first. This world is mostly based on realism and real politick not on idealism or wishful thinking. If USA cheats others, they may do it in their own interest. The cheated party may guard against their own interest so that they may not be cheated by USA.

However USA being world super power may play more ethically, may not forget her good friends and may not let their allies and friends to feel cheated.

USA is a very strange country. Spending billions and trillions on humanitarian and other aids but does not cash it in public diplomacy. I am surprised that why USA not like the erstwhile USSR does not launch an ideological campaign for democracy and human rights as used to be done by the former USSR for the barbaric Communism.

USA can earn hearts and minds of the millions of Pashtuns and Muslims if they launch such an intelligent propaganda program. USA can serve their savior from the terrorists, from poverty and ignorance.

I wish that some friends from USA , US citizens or the one who are living in USA to write and express themselves that how is life over there and how the ideal life people are enjoying in USA and which can be exported to other countries specially to the backward Muslim world and to the conservative world of Pashtuns.

I wish the world may follow USA as a great model for success, happiness and great life. USA and its system may be followed as an ideology, as a code of life. Scholars should construct theoretical background for it , a philosophy and then a working plan as how the American ideals can be propagated in other parts of the world specially in Muslim countries, third world poor countries and in our case for Pashtunland.

We must take it very seriously that the defeat of NATO and USA will be the victory of the Taliban and Salafism which are highly antidemocratic forces and for them democracy is infidelity or Kufr. Also it will be the triumph of the warlords and other conservative and non democratic elements. We must strengthen the hands of our saviorm our helper, our friend and the one who has the panacea for all our ills.

At the same time USA may change its policy and may give books to common Afghans and bullets to the terrorists. People in Afghanistan may also help the US and NATO forces so that they can easily target the wrong doers with out damage to the innocent citizens.

We must appreciate that contribution of USA towards democracy is more than its anti-democracy attempts or support for some dictators or kings as in Middle East. However USA like every nation first looks to its own national interest then interest of a friend or ally.

But this trend for USA being the sole super power of the world may change as a super power may not think only as a country but a responsible state in the world affairs whose decisions not only affect its own people but the world at large. USA needs more propaganda for what they are doing. They do but don’t get the credit.

As ealier said USA is not the only invader or conqueror of the world. A long list of US invasions and intervensions can be made as in Panama, Cuba, Vietnam , the Philippines, Iraq, Afghanistan and else where but if we start making a similar list that how Arabs started from Makkah and Madina and conquered the whole known world at that time then the list of the wars of the USA will seem very tiny. Arabs not only conquered the land but also made it part of their empire and changed the culture and religion of the people they conquered.

We must be realistic in our approach and our subjective notions and prejudices may not hinder us in giving the credit to USA for its noble intentions and noble deeds. Before labeling me as a US stooge or whatever the readers may please read the article patiently and may comment on the substance not on the person. One may present an opposite case which will even help the USA to reform and improve.

This argument is also very weak that USA is in Afghanistan because of other ulterior motives as occupying the natural resources. How a rich developed USA will lose billions of dollars and hundreds of its soldiers just to occupy few hidden mineral resources in Afghanistan. Why not USA does so by investment and trade instead of launching such bloody wars.

The main purpose of the USA is to do away with the religious extremists and terrorists which are our common enemies for both the US and for us the common Pashtuns. That’s why its our moral and national duty to strengthen the hands of USA and to request the US forces to stay till the menace is completely wiped out. Once terrorism is over economy will automatically improve and USA can be a partner in prosperity and development.

this is a great love letter to usa but the truth is diffrent you should take the head a little bit out from the rektum of usa because some would not agree with you and the evil work that usa did and right now doing for exampl the mission accomplished stuff in iraq or pashtun areas the distableicing of afghanistan from the side of usa the us american terror in afghanistan south asia and middle east.all the pathetic wars that usa started and never won the last 60 years.

[DSM0305]

USA like any other developed country of the world is the Blessing, Savior, Friend, Helper and a Messiah for Muslims and Pashtuns

Many are of the view that USA should immediately withdraw its forces from Afghanistan and else where. The withdrawal or defeat of USA/NATO in Afghanistan will be the defeat of democracy, development and the war against terrorism.

The ultimate winners will be the barbarian Taliban and the war lords and Afghanistan will be pushed once again in feudal clashes and war among various ethnicities and religious groups and parties. USA must finish its real Jihad against the Taliban and once its Mission is fully accomplished may leave Afghanistan and may hand over all the power and authority to the Afghan forces and Afghan government.

USA may not leave the Afghan people in lurch and may not create the same vacuum once created after the withdrawal of the former USSR otherwise the same mess will be created once again.

What USA should do is to rethink its strategy for Afghanistan and Pashtuns. The hearts of common Pashtuns should be won with books not with bullets. Democracy and development will indirectly wipe out the obscurantist bigots and terrorists. The bullets should only be used against the terrorists in an intelligent way so that the terrorists don’t cash the collateral damages against USA and win more sympathizers for their evil cause and against democracy, West and USA.

Afghan people should choose between USA their savior and the Taliban bandits. For me if the choice has to be between USA and Taliban I shall definitely prefer USA and not the harsh barbarian Taliban. We must be grateful to USA who is the only country in the world really interested in exterminating the menace of Taliban and who is fighting our own war.

USA is a friend not a foe and Pashtuns must cash this opportunity of the help extended by USA and may follow Japan after the World War II who befriended the US instead of fighting against the super power of the world and the champion of democracy , development and human rights.

USA or an NGO working for democracy and human rights in Afghanistan and Pakistan should use its funds on education, publicity and awareness. USA may start a special newspaper and a magazine of good quality in Pashto where the Pashtuns should be educated against terrorism and should provide good news and healthy entertainment. USA may learn from the past how communism won hearts even for its ugly agenda.

There is a dire need of intense public diplomacy on the part of USA. Majority of things they are doing is good but people don't know and can’t appreciate it.

Sometimes I wonder USA inspite of its democracy, human rights, development, prosperity, international aid has a negative image problem and many hate this superpower in spite of all its virtues. This country has changed the life of many persons and families.

Many poor people of the world after entry to this land of opportunities become prosperous which completely change their life standard and that of their families. I personally know many such persons and families.USA is spending billions of aid on poverty and social development. It’s extending all possible help against natural disasters. It’s running thousands of education and health projects through out the world.

Their war in Iraq and Afghanistan besides their national interest is against terrorism and dictatorship. What they lack is public diplomacy and positive propaganda to let the world know what they are contributing to the development of the world. Once people know it they shall start loving USA instead of hating this great country. They need propaganda as was done by USSR for communism although communism is worse than democracy and the record of USSR is bloodier than USA.

USA has fought wars like any other country, nation or power. Former USSR has not only fought wars but also conquered countries and made them part of the Union. We all know the history from Poland, to East Germany to Tajikistan to Afghanistan. The same was done by Muslims , by Pashtuns by Germans, by Turks and others when they were in power.

It’s all power politics and balance of power game. This is what Realism teaches us. That’s why USA is not the only country or nation in this regard. USA like any other country or power has reasons for her wars.

We should not only look at USA only as a country which fights wars or invades others. At least it does not conquer countries physically like others. We should also consider its humanitarian, developmental and other positive role in the world as well as its own internal development and progress as a nation.

USA may not be a paragon of virtue but whatever I know that they toppled communist, Nazis, fascists, and dictators and are now crushing extremists like Taliban and Al Qaida. I don't know a single case where it has toppled a democratically elected government.

In its own national interest it might have invaded countries but the same is the tradition of all big powers including Muslims and Pashtuns. What I know that except few very tiny states, USA has never physically occupied a country and has merged it with United States of America as was done by the former USSR and others.

USA is not perfect and such kind of discussions may point out whatever they lack in their policies and strategies and if they are intelligent enough, can learn from such discussions so that they can better tackle world affairs being a super power of the world.

What I see is that USA being a state may look for her national interest first. This world is mostly based on realism and real politick not on idealism or wishful thinking. If USA cheats others, they may do it in their own interest. The cheated party may guard against their own interest so that they may not be cheated by USA.

However USA being world super power may play more ethically, may not forget her good friends and may not let their allies and friends to feel cheated.

USA is a very strange country. Spending billions and trillions on humanitarian and other aids but does not cash it in public diplomacy. I am surprised that why USA not like the erstwhile USSR does not launch an ideological campaign for democracy and human rights as used to be done by the former USSR for the barbaric Communism.

USA can earn hearts and minds of the millions of Pashtuns and Muslims if they launch such an intelligent propaganda program. USA can serve their savior from the terrorists, from poverty and ignorance.

I wish that some friends from USA , US citizens or the one who are living in USA to write and express themselves that how is life over there and how the ideal life people are enjoying in USA and which can be exported to other countries specially to the backward Muslim world and to the conservative world of Pashtuns.

I wish the world may follow USA as a great model for success, happiness and great life. USA and its system may be followed as an ideology, as a code of life. Scholars should construct theoretical background for it , a philosophy and then a working plan as how the American ideals can be propagated in other parts of the world specially in Muslim countries, third world poor countries and in our case for Pashtunland.

We must take it very seriously that the defeat of NATO and USA will be the victory of the Taliban and Salafism which are highly antidemocratic forces and for them democracy is infidelity or Kufr. Also it will be the triumph of the warlords and other conservative and non democratic elements. We must strengthen the hands of our saviorm our helper, our friend and the one who has the panacea for all our ills.

At the same time USA may change its policy and may give books to common Afghans and bullets to the terrorists. People in Afghanistan may also help the US and NATO forces so that they can easily target the wrong doers with out damage to the innocent citizens.

We must appreciate that contribution of USA towards democracy is more than its anti-democracy attempts or support for some dictators or kings as in Middle East. However USA like every nation first looks to its own national interest then interest of a friend or ally.

But this trend for USA being the sole super power of the world may change as a super power may not think only as a country but a responsible state in the world affairs whose decisions not only affect its own people but the world at large. USA needs more propaganda for what they are doing. They do but don’t get the credit.

As ealier said USA is not the only invader or conqueror of the world. A long list of US invasions and intervensions can be made as in Panama, Cuba, Vietnam , the Philippines, Iraq, Afghanistan and else where but if we start making a similar list that how Arabs started from Makkah and Madina and conquered the whole known world at that time then the list of the wars of the USA will seem very tiny. Arabs not only conquered the land but also made it part of their empire and changed the culture and religion of the people they conquered.

We must be realistic in our approach and our subjective notions and prejudices may not hinder us in giving the credit to USA for its noble intentions and noble deeds. Before labeling me as a US stooge or whatever the readers may please read the article patiently and may comment on the substance not on the person. One may present an opposite case which will even help the USA to reform and improve.

This argument is also very weak that USA is in Afghanistan because of other ulterior motives as occupying the natural resources. How a rich developed USA will lose billions of dollars and hundreds of its soldiers just to occupy few hidden mineral resources in Afghanistan. Why not USA does so by investment and trade instead of launching such bloody wars.

The main purpose of the USA is to do away with the religious extremists and terrorists which are our common enemies for both the US and for us the common Pashtuns. That’s why its our moral and national duty to strengthen the hands of USA and to request the US forces to stay till the menace is completely wiped out. Once terrorism is over economy will automatically improve and USA can be a partner in prosperity and development.

I don't know who you are, but you should have been hanged instead of Najib.

[Badlun]

Simple questions please:

Can we defend ourselves against Taliban without US help? If NO then why we do not make the enemy(US) of our enemy(Taliban) as our friend?

If YES then why Afghan government with parliament, many Pashtuns and all non Pashtuns accept the presence of US forces in Afghanistan? Why only Taliban fight against these foreigners , why not every body?

If you do not consider Taliban as an enemy then your point is clear and you having your ideology of extremist Islam can defend yourself that you want Taliban rule for Afghanistan. Taliban will improve the economy and not with the help of partners like USA.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Yes and No.

Yes Because i had heard that USA has only pumped money into the building of ANA and very less to infrastructure.

No,Because i read USA Annual aid to Afghanistan today stand at odd 10billion dollars which is 50% of total Afghanistan GDP

What should afghanistan do..

My view

Let the deal get signed and let the odd 12000 troops of america remain in Afghanistan till 2024.Because of this America will most probably not abandon Afghanistan and would continue the the 10billion dollars aid

Afghanistan new govt should set a vision of 5 years like Pakistan used to do in the 1960's and India today to create a knowledge based economy with an equal share of industry,service and agriculture.

Afghanistan has the capability to reach atleast 60-80billion dollars GDP by 2024.With a GDP of this size afghan can survice without any Aid and can work further to increase its GDP..Bigger GDP also mean bigger Defence budget which in turn means more and more troops and well trained along with a better gear to fight against the tali*******s.

In the End.

Afghanistan should let the america stay but a under a agreement of 10billion dollars aid reach year,Setting up industries and As many as many possible university.

[Kushan Prince]

There are countries like China, India and Japan that want to develop Afghanistan. We don't need the likes of USA, they're way of helping is sending missles into villages and the western view of democracy.