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  • Will Pakistan support US war on Iran?

    If war breaks out between Israel and Iran, then the US would be drawn into such conflict on Israel side.

    Considering Pakistan support for US war on Afghanistan with US/NATO supply lines, the question that I have pondered is will Pakistan military support the US war on Iran with supply lines?
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    Yes
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    No
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    I dont know
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    Last edited by Shah-i-Kot; 11-13-2013, 08:10 PM.

  • #2
    who is more important to pakistans interests? its not iran.

    they turned their backs on their taliban allies in 2001 and allow drone strikes against their own people. this is a trend throughout multiple pakistani governments and will not change.
    There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

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    • #3
      Publicly, no.
      Privately, yes.

      After all, the US has dollars. What does Iran have?
      "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

      "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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      • #4
        Israel won´t attack Iran. It seems Iran and US has started to negotiate after more than 40years of animosity. Some days ago US backlashed the Saudis by coming close to Iranian government and Israel seems to be worried now. Israel won´t risk a war in the region that already is burning. UN and EU are not supporting Israelis. Iran is the only regional country that can be called as independent from all colonial powers (Russians, US, Arabs). US knows it can´t fight Iran. No money, no men and no acceptance in Washington. Israel is depending from US and UK.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bost Bastan News View Post
          Israel won´t attack Iran. It seems Iran and US has started to negotiate after more than 40years of animosity. Some days ago US backlashed the Saudis by coming close to Iranian government and Israel seems to be worried now. Israel won´t risk a war in the region that already is burning. UN and EU are not supporting Israelis. Iran is the only regional country that can be called as independent from all colonial powers (Russians, US, Arabs). US knows it can´t fight Iran. No money, no men and no acceptance in Washington. Israel is depending from US and UK.
          How is it that on one hand you support the US war on Afghanistan, but on the other hand are opposed to the US war on Iran? You try to pass this of as a matter of fact LOL. If there is any word to take seriously today, it is that of Israel's, whether you like it or not. Their record is there.

          Money talks. Israel controls the US Congress and Senate. Kerry has failed to stop new sanctions on Iran.

          You are opposed to Sunni "extremists" in Afghanistan, but are in support of Shiite "extremists"

          It is simply inconvenient for you to accept what you can not control.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
            Publicly, no.
            Privately, yes.

            After all, the US has dollars. What does Iran have?
            I agree. Pakistan can be bought again by the US to support a war on Iran. However, it will have results of an entirely different nature. It would be very costly for Pakistan. With Pakistan support for the US war in Afghanistan, Pak military has been ok with it since only Pashtuns are effected in Afghanistan, KP/FATA.

            I think Pakistan could give US supply lines. That cant exactly be a private matter. I mean airspace yeah, but not ground lines, it would reach the media so fast, and its not like Iran would not know.

            Before the 2001 US war began in Afghanistan, Afghanistan as a state didnt possess any outward military deterrence capability. Iran has a confirmed ballistic missile program, a modern air defense system, and an organized army.
            Last edited by Shah-i-Kot; 11-14-2013, 03:25 AM.

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            • #7
              Pakistan will remain neutral.

              Other than this Pakistan trade with Iran is picking up and our affair with USA is also almost over.

              We are not under the govt like Zia ul Haq but rather a govt with clear vision.

              They are resisting American pressure even on the Pak-Iran Gas Pipeline
              "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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              • #8
                Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                who is more important to pakistans interests? its not iran.

                they turned their backs on their taliban allies in 2001 and allow drone strikes against their own people. this is a trend throughout multiple pakistani governments and will not change.
                Agreed, but you have to consider that Iran has a ballistic missile program, and the Taliban did not. In other words, it was easy for Pakistan to support the US war in Afghanistan.

                I do think Pakistan will be bought out by the US dollars.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Shah-i-Kot View Post
                  Agreed, but you have to consider that Iran has a ballistic missile program, and the Taliban did not. In other words, it was easy for Pakistan to support the US war in Afghanistan.

                  I do think Pakistan will be bought out by the US dollars.
                  pakistan will simply play a double game of morally supporting iran while actually supporting the US, same game as the drone drama today. realistically, the US would destroy irans military capability if it were to conduct air strikes. its simply the best techology in the world vs 1980s era technology that iran is developing today.

                  pakis simply have no incentive to choose iran over the US. even if pakistan did obviously support a US war, iran after an american assault would be in no position to take revenge or cut off economic ties.
                  There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                  Sayyid Qutb

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                    pakistan will simply play a double game of morally supporting iran while actually supporting the US, same game as the drone drama today. realistically, the US would destroy irans military capability if it were to conduct air strikes. its simply the best techology in the world vs 1980s era technology that iran is developing today.

                    pakis simply have no incentive to choose iran over the US. even if pakistan did obviously support a US war, iran after an american assault would be in no position to take revenge or cut off economic ties.


                    US is definitely trying to avoid a war with Iran as much as it can because the costs are huge.

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                    • #11
                      Iran is the most popular and loved country in Pakistan

                      *even more than the KSA and CHina combined

                      *Pakistan has 40-45million shia,or only 2nd to Iran or 30% of the world Shia..So it is impossible Pakistan ever will support Anyone against iran

                      *Remember that in the past Iran also helped Pakistan in wars against India.
                      *Iran was among the first country to official recoginize Pakistan as a state after parition while Afghanistnan has always been against Pakistan creation and hindu lover

                      Pakistan and iran relations are getting stronger and stronger,The Trade is all set to increase to 5billion dollars while the Govt has even projected a 10billion dollars mark in the next 5 years

                      When the IP will get Online mostly likely in 2015-16,Pakistan alone will have to pay 5-6billion dollars to them for gas annually

                      *Iran will establish a Oil refinery for worth 4billion dollars in Gwadar and is ready to supply china through a pipeline to gwadar and we all know china alone energy sources import is more than 200billion dollars.

                      Iran is popular in Pakistan, overwhelmingly disliked everywhere else
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                      • #12
                        very interesting topic i would say yes because the pakistanis selling their own citizens for us dollars aid etc to usa why should they not help the usa to invade iran like afghanistan.
                        Last edited by Khilji; 11-14-2013, 04:35 PM.

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                        • #13
                          1. The war on Iran has already started.

                          Everyone knew that if Iran was attacked directly they would use their proxies (e.g. Hezbollah) to attack Israel. This required an Iran-friendly Syria, which thus needed to be got rid of by the US and its allies.

                          2. After Syria was supposed to have been dealt with and Israel was safe from Syria-Hezbollah then the US would have eventually got down to thinking of bombing Iran.

                          I say "thinking", because even without Syria-Hezbollah, Iran is an important military power and could wipe out much of the US navy and bases in the Persian gulf which are in front of it.


                          3. If Iran was bombed and the regime overthrown and US client regime installed, the US would have started focusing on Russia and China e.g. Wahabi separatists in the north Caucasus and Uighur separatists in China's west.


                          Iran regards the war in Syria by US-Saudi backed terrorists as a war against it, essentially a war on Iran just that the actual theatre of fighting is not within Iranian borders.

                          To defend Syria is to defend Iran.

                          Russia and China think along the same lines i.e. the war on Syria is a war on them and if Syria falls it spells big trouble for them. The US has invaded/attacked:

                          - Afghanistan
                          - Iraq
                          - Libya

                          Libya was the last straw and when the Russians and Chinese finally said that's it the US cannot be permitted to invade any more countries - not due to morality but because it was threatening vital Russian and Chinese interests.

                          Time favours the Iranian-Chinese-Russian axis as China day by day is getting economically and militarily stronger, whilst the US and EU are getting weaker. A month or two ago the federal government in the US stopped working.

                          America is only going to get weaker whilst China and Russia get stronger. Another important thing is step by step, gradually but steadily the dominance of the US petro-dollar is being destroyed as China, Russia, India and other states use US dollars less for oil and other things and use their own currencies.

                          The long-term goal is to end the petro-dollar and make a new non-US economy based world.

                          China, Russia and Iran are winning.






                          The exercises below were designed to send a message to the USA.







                          Russia carried out its biggest military exercise ever since the cold war and sent 0.16 million soldiers from one end of the country (i.e. across a whole continent, a 1/4-1/3 of the world's width in around 24 hours).

                          What was the purpose of this exercise and why do it with China?

                          It was a joint Sino-Russian warning to the US.

                          This is part of a wider Russo-Sino-Iranian-Syrian alliance e.g. last year:

                          'Iran, Russia, China, Syria plan 'largest' war game' | JPost | Israel News

                          ShamLife said Syrian air defense missiles and its coastal defense would be put to the test in the military exercises, and that 90,000 troops from the four countries would be involved in the war games along with 400 aircraft and 1,000 tanks and "hundreds of rockets."
                          I don't know if that did ever take place but what we do know is that when America threatened to bomb Syria two things happened.


                          1. Russia and China sent ships to the Meditteranean coast off Syria.

                          2. America backed down.





                          The following video is a MUST SEE. It's openly anti-Russian with a hostile tone but nevertheless worth watching.

                          The analysis in the video is totally wrong and it is American propaganda, the massive Sino-Russian war games were not designed to show "Russia is stronger than China" (why would the Chinese participate if that was the case, they are no fools) but a warning message to America.



                          Last edited by Bengal_Tiger; 11-14-2013, 06:15 AM.
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                          • #14


                            Russia and China made the US back down from attacking Syria.

                            Iran is far stronger and far more important.

                            It is now unlikely that the US will think of attacking Iran.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                              Iran is the most popular and loved country in Pakistan

                              *even more than the KSA and CHina combined

                              *Pakistan has 40-45million shia,or only 2nd to Iran or 30% of the world Shia..So it is impossible Pakistan ever will support Anyone against iran

                              *Remember that in the past Iran also helped Pakistan in wars against India.
                              *Iran was among the first country to official recoginize Pakistan as a state after parition while Afghanistnan has always been against Pakistan creation and hindu lover

                              Pakistan and iran relations are getting stronger and stronger,The Trade is all set to increase to 5billion dollars while the Govt has even projected a 10billion dollars mark in the next 5 years

                              When the IP will get Online mostly likely in 2015-16,Pakistan alone will have to pay 5-6billion dollars to them for gas annually

                              *Iran will establish a Oil refinery for worth 4billion dollars in Gwadar and is ready to supply china through a pipeline to gwadar and we all know china alone energy sources import is more than 200billion dollars.

                              Iran is popular in Pakistan, overwhelmingly disliked everywhere else
                              you are so naive..my child.. Pakistan will if they are rightly thretend by americans and if the price is right.. be realistic.. do not think too highly of iran, pakistan.. and most of the other muslim countries in the world... do not forget Iraq, Afghanistan,,,libya Syria .. etc etc.. recently muslims aint brave or lucky.. so no if america wants to attack Iran.. Pakistan will initially say that we do not want to do anything with this war.. than they will actually give bases to americans, if americans require them (I thnk they dont).. in fact pakistan will be happy that they do not require bases.. also we will plicate our guilt by saying that since Iran is shia.. and Saudi also do not like them.. so lets just screw them.. Also we will be happy that AMerica is bussy with Iran .. so they we have more time till our asses get kicked..

                              Also i think iran will also fall like a house of cards.. jsut like so many other muslim countries in the world.. i dont care if they can shot cruise missle from their hindsides.. lool.

                              Also i think Iran is to muslim world like RUssia is to the west.. they flip.. do not have stable policies..
                              What really drives me hazy is it me or are the others crazy

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