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    International; Religious Freedom
    Where Afghan Christians Flee After Converting to Christianity

    Capital city of nearby country becomes haven for converts—even though denied refugee status.
    Abby Stocker
    [ posted 7/25/2013 11:44AM ]

    The New York Times sheds fresh light on the challenges faced by Afghan Christians seeking religious freedom, spotlighting the growth of a refugee church in India's capital city, New Delhi.
    As the Times observes in a report worth reading, more than 200 Christian converts from Muslim backgrounds have fled to New Delhi, seeking refuge from the Taliban and from political backlash after television coverage resulted in one Afghan politician's urging the government to execute converts in 2010. As CT noted in July 2010, the Afghan government also suspended operations of two Christian NGOs after an Afghan TV station broadcast coverage of baptisms by Western aid workers.
    Though members of the Afghan Church of New Delhi say they feel safer in India, their lives are complicated by their lack of legal recognition as refugees.
    Although the U.N.'s High Commissioner for Refugees has recognized Christians, Muslims, and Sikhs fleeing Afghanistan for India, the Indian government's refusal to do so means that Afghan Christians cannot seek legal protection from discrimination from other religious groups. Such discrimination often arises from Afghan Muslims who have also sought refuge in India. Many Afghan Christians make a meager living as translators for Afghanis seeking medical care in India, but the language and social challenges continue.
    CT has regularly covered the struggle for religious freedom in Afghanistan, including its ranking in the top 10 countries for religious persecution and violence against other Christian aid groups working in the country.
    http://www.christianitytoday.com/gle...lhi-india.html



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  • #2
    young afghan muslim woman converted to christainity,,,,,,,
    who is she?
    i do,nt think she is pashtana but she looks like pashtana.
    Young Afghan Muslim girl..Convert..found Lord Jesus Christ..Testimony - YouTube



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    • #3
      The west is fully exposed by promoting christainity and westrenization.
      In afghanistan most of these converts are hazaras.I do,nt know if anyohter ethnicity included.
      I do,nt think a true pashtun will ever let his gerat and religion down for dollars.
      The hazaras are not muslims anyway.
      In queta they worship khumani more then allah.


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      pak allah hum pa sefatu pokh pukhtoon day,,,,,,,,late,samandar khan samandar badrakho kalay nokhar.



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      be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
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      • #4
        christain missionaries brainwashing muslim children in afghanistan
        Christian Missionaries brainwashing Muslim children in Afghanistan - YouTube



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        • #5
          Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
          young afghan muslim woman converted to christainity,,,,,,,
          who is she?
          i do,nt think she is pashtana but she looks like pashtana.
          Young Afghan Muslim girl..Convert..found Lord Jesus Christ..Testimony - YouTube[/URL]
          gadoonwal you must be very childish to believe she is even from afghanistan. she is an arab christian. there are many like her who claim to be converts. so plz don't fall for it. just listen to her arabic words she pronounces.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
            young afghan muslim woman converted to christainity,,,,,,,
            who is she?
            i do,nt think she is pashtana but she looks like pashtana.
            Young Afghan Muslim girl..Convert..found Lord Jesus Christ..Testimony - YouTube[/URL]
            Gadoonwala don't worry about this sort of stupidity. I have had the chance to read The Bible (moffatts translation and NIV) and writings of early church fathers. The comparison between The Holy Quran and the Bible are not even comparisons... The Quran is clearly divine, direct, methodical, spoken in the same voice that commanded Musa, Isa, and other Prophets. Intellectually the verbal gymnastics Christians have to display to justify trinitarian logic turns them into verbal contortionists.

            This girl is an airhead and her mannerisms depict a low level of intelligence. She goes from talking to her teacher to Romans to playing basketball to not remembering her introduction to the gospel etc.

            Even if she is Arab Baloch Pashtun etc she is like chaff and the Muslim is the wheat.

            Also after Jimmy Swaggert caught got a lot of missionary tactics were exposed. They even went so far as building pseudo mosques and imitating the call to prayer. Their methodology is to prey on the destitute and shove a teaspoon of "Jesus" down the throat after a teaspoon of medicine.

            You can see a huge difference in behavior between these missionaries and the true theologians who know Greek Aramaic and hebrew. Some of these go on to become unitarians which is an improvement.
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            • #7
              Article | First Things

              This website substantiates the claim I made about their duplicity in the Muslim world. They cannot succeed on merit since they often know their religion in a surface context at best and rarely hearken to primary source evidence... Instead relying on missionary school to teach them a 4th grade level understanding of the theological concepts.
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              • #8
                Here is a quote from the article:

                "Similarly, some evangelical missionaries today design churches that look like mosques—churches where worshippers remove their shoes when entering and where the Bible is displayed on a type of stand typically used for the Qur’an. New believers in such churches may keep their Islamic ( halal) diet, wear traditional Islamic dress, and fast during Ramadan. Some missionaries even encourage new believers to continue to call themselves Muslims and to perform traditional Islamic prayers. In other words, this sort of contextualization involves more than writing praise music in a local style. Instead, it invites comparison with messianic Judaism, whereby Jewish believers in Jesus continue to follow Jewish practices, such as worship on Saturday. Indeed, some Muslim converts choose to call themselves “Messianic Muslims.”"

                To substantiate my assertion above. Trust me, it's a good sign that they rely on these sorts of techniques. Their foundations are rocky to start with.
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                • #9
                  Most of these converts are Tajiks from what I hear, I've read an article a long time ago on this Tajik man from panjsher who got jailed for leaving Islam and converting to Christianity. I also remember back then when I was in Afghanistan this man from Mazar who converted to Christianity just for money and this was done by an American journalist apparently. Needles to say, he went into hiding after that.

                  This is why I always get suspicious of so called "Humanatrian aid workers" since they can be disguised as missionaries (red cross) with an ultra motive.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                    Most of these converts are Tajiks from what I hear, I've read an article a long time ago on this Tajik man from panjsher who got jailed for leaving Islam and converting to Christianity. I also remember back then when I was in Afghanistan this man from Mazar who converted to Christianity just for money and this was done by an American journalist apparently. Needles to say, he went into hiding after that.

                    This is why I always get suspicious of so called "Humanatrian aid workers" since they can be disguised as missionaries (red cross) with an ultra motive.
                    Yet another example.. how unreliable Tajiks are..
                    What really drives me hazy is it me or are the others crazy

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                    • #11
                      Who cares?

                      If they leave for Christianity, it's their choice.

                      They are leaving their next world and this one.

                      We as Muslims can only advise them to get back on straight path.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                        Most of these converts are Tajiks from what I hear, I've read an article a long time ago on this Tajik man from panjsher who got jailed for leaving Islam and converting to Christianity. I also remember back then when I was in Afghanistan this man from Mazar who converted to Christianity just for money and this was done by an American journalist apparently. Needles to say, he went into hiding after that.

                        This is why I always get suspicious of so called "Humanatrian aid workers" since they can be disguised as missionaries (red cross) with an ultra motive.
                        why do you blame everything on tajiks she isnt a tajik in first place. afghan converts make news. she is lying to be in afghanistan then suddenly she appears in jerusalem. she had access to internet and computers. how she pronouce Hadis. its a joke.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by afghan View Post
                          why do you blame everything on tajiks she isnt a tajik in first place. afghan converts make news. she is lying to be in afghanistan then suddenly she appears in jerusalem. she had access to internet and computers. how she pronouce Hadis. its a joke.
                          Can you read? i was talking from my own experinces and from what i have read, not about the girl in the video.
                          Last edited by Kushan Prince; 11-11-2013, 05:32 PM.
                          "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                          -Old Pashtun proverb




                          "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                          • #14
                            [MENTION=5723]Kushan Prince[/MENTION]

                            You are again as delusional as always with incorrect information about Pashtuns.

                            There are thousands of Pashtun converts. In Afghanistan and Pashtunkhwa.

                            They live in secrecy but they exist. They have hidden churches with Pashto services inside NGO's.

                            There are many Pashtana's married to Western preachers in Afghanistan to obtain asylum in the West.

                            Pashtun christians even have their own youtube channels https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVik...66F6E61843D958







                            In Holland where I use to work with Afghan refugees, I've seen many Christians.

                            Stop lying to yourself.
                            Originally posted by Firdousi
                            Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Firdousi
                              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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