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  • #61
    Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
    Well Sir,I belong to a Independent country,We Pakistani pashtuns are indepedent,Even the Afghan Refugees in my country are independent

    I can understand being afghan independent word would be more like an alien concept to you.

    I will post a thread about "The great betrayal and the afghanistan onwards 1893"

    Would be about the greatest betrayal the history has ever witnessed when a brother sold off his brother to someone else just to protect his a** from invasion.

    The Day we Pakistani pashtuns were sold off to british by Afghan elites.Since than Afghanistan has lost all the glorious past it had.Afghan history pre 1893 or durrand line agreement/The greatest betrayal is all about Greatness But onwards 1893 Afghan history is all about being invaded and worst of its kind.

    i would like to see your comment in that thread
    A brother sold another brother? Are you drunk? Pashtuns was never united. The only time Pashtuns was united were under Ahmad shah Baba and Mirwais Hotaki. Beyond that point every tribe was at it own. There was never an unification between Pashtun in terms of modern day nation army. You being part of British was solely your own fault, because you were to weak to fight them back. It is as simple as that. In that time no one was there to chew your food for you, everyone was on their own. Even after partition of Pashtun, Afghanistan made several attempts to unite Pashtuns, but apparently you guys had already given up and accepted the fact that you be servants of others.
    You call yourself Pashtun yet you dont know the basis stuff about them. How could not know that Pashtuns are tribal people with tribal army/fighters. If you look back at the Afghan-Anglo war, then it was a fight between tribal Pashuns fighters against Punjabis, Gurkhas, Sikhs, british etc. So don't go around blame Afghans for your own short comes.
    Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

    People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

    ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
    Ronald Reagan

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cmZyOrUA0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9sz0nPePI

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    • #62
      Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
      A brother sold another brother? Are you drunk? Pashtuns was never united. The only time Pashtuns was united were under Ahmad shah Baba and Mirwais Hotaki. Beyond that point every tribe was at it own. There was never an unification between Pashtun in terms of modern day nation army. You being part of British was solely your own fault, because you were to weak to fight them back. It is as simple as that. In that time no one was there to chew your food for you, everyone was on their own. Even after partition of Pashtun, Afghanistan made several attempts to unite Pashtuns, but apparently you guys had already given up and accepted the fact that you be servants of others.
      You call yourself Pashtun yet you dont know the basis stuff about them. How could not know that Pashtuns are tribal people with tribal army/fighters. If you look back at the Afghan-Anglo war, then it was a fight between tribal Pashuns fighters against Punjabis, Gurkhas, Sikhs, british etc. So don't go around blame Afghans for your own short comes.

      your acting like a typical persian

      i know your probably among the few member on this forum with neutral knowledge.

      The durrand line agreement in the history books of Pakistani pashtuns is known as the Great betrayal and No we are not this much beghairata that when you sold us to british we would come back to you again.

      Durand Line - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Pakistan is a independent state made for Muslims and ofcourse non muslim minority aswell as i want Pakistan to be a secular country.
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      • #63
        [MENTION=8995]DSM0305[/MENTION]

        A** statistics I guess,
        Here is a fact
        A map of Bannu before Durrandline agreement in 1893.



        A closer view



        Bannu as Bunnoo is clearly visible under Afghanistan,Baka khel(my village) certainly is not visible is more more into afghanistan than even the city bannu today.

        We were sold by the Afghan elites.My pashtunwali teaches me to never become a beghairata,We would remain so forever but wont forgot the greatest betrayal the human history to witness ever.
        Last edited by Da Bannu Mazdigar; 11-01-2013, 03:05 PM.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
          your acting like a typical persian

          i know your probably among the few member on this forum with neutral knowledge.

          The durrand line agreement in the history books of Pakistani pashtuns is known as the Great betrayal and No we are not this much beghairata that when you sold us to british we would come back to you again.

          Durand Line - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

          Pakistan is a independent state made for Muslims and ofcourse non muslim minority aswell as i want Pakistan to be a secular country.
          Can you read English? Your own source contradict what you said.

          And let make it clear. You and your kind can stay wherever you want and whatever country that pleases you, but don't dare to say Afghans betrayed/sold you. We went to several wars and got many of our cities bombed to help some ungrateful people like you.

          Afghans never accepted durrand line, but after listening to people like you. I will pray to god our leaders accepts this durrand line and fence the entire border. Afghans be better off forgetting your kind and start trading with other neighbors. Unfortunately everyday Afghan is stupid and is obsessed with uniting pashtuns. They are stupid and haven't realized that Pasthuns in the other side are no longer Pashtuns, but Pathans.

          Fencing border and accepting the durrand line will greatly improve our relation with other ethnic groups. pashtuns have been fighting those Farsiwans for quite awhile because of ''pathans''.

          Why should Pashtuns in Afghanistan fight afghan ethnic groups, while Pashtuns in Pakistans is enjoying daal with Punjabis.
          Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

          People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

          ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
          Ronald Reagan

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cmZyOrUA0

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9sz0nPePI

          Pashto dictionary:
          http://thepashto.com/index.php

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
            No,we are not a superpower but we are still enough capable to atleast not allow foriegn troops of 42 countries to operate within our country.

            anyway tell us something about persianistan(once known as Afghanistan)
            They need 42 countries to escape Afghan wrath. Yet they didn't even need a single troop to make Pakistan USAs woman.

            Just by the look of an American, Pakistan went on all four and prepared herself. How shameful...
            Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

            People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

            ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
            Ronald Reagan

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cmZyOrUA0

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9sz0nPePI

            Pashto dictionary:
            http://thepashto.com/index.php

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            • #66
              Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
              They need 42 countries to escape Afghan wrath. Yet they didn't even need a single troop to make Pakistan USAs woman.

              Just by the look of an American, Pakistan went on all four and prepared herself. How shameful...
              funny indeed,

              Pakistan was american ally ever since 1960's.i hope you know they even were going against india in 1971 to help Pakistan and were all set to get involved in the war

              They had given us free hand during our nuclear program.Infact the PARR 1 reactor which is said to be the base of Pakistan nuclear program was manufactured by them in Pakistan,

              We were already with them in afghan against USSR,

              We gave them bases and route because we already were closest ally in the region.

              accept the fact that your country can be invaded by anyone..Be prepared from invasion by uzbekistan after 2014 as they are all set to get their ancient land back.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                funny indeed,

                Pakistan was american ally ever since 1960's.i hope you know they even were going against india in 1971 to help Pakistan and were all set to get involved in the war

                They had given us free hand during our nuclear program.Infact the PARR 1 reactor which is said to be the base of Pakistan nuclear program was manufactured by them in Pakistan,

                We were already with them in afghan against USSR,

                We gave them bases and route because we already were closest ally in the region.

                accept the fact that your country can be invaded by anyone..Be prepared from invasion by uzbekistan after 2014 as they are all set to get their ancient land back.
                Oh my god, you are so honor-less and pride-less that you just admitted that Pakistan went in all four since 1960 for America. American must have done you quite allot since then, how shameful. Kinda feel sorry for you, it must hurt allot in Pakistans lower body.
                Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

                People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

                ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
                Ronald Reagan

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cmZyOrUA0

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9sz0nPePI

                Pashto dictionary:
                http://thepashto.com/index.php

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
                  Oh my god, you are so honor-less and pride-less that you just admitted that Pakistan went in all four since 1960 for America. American must have done you quite allot since then, how shameful. Kinda feel sorry for you, it must hurt allot in Pakistans lower body.
                  cheap attempt i must say.
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                    funny indeed,

                    Pakistan was american ally ever since 1960's.i hope you know they even were going against india in 1971 to help Pakistan and were all set to get involved in the war

                    They had given us free hand during our nuclear program.Infact the PARR 1 reactor which is said to be the base of Pakistan nuclear program was manufactured by them in Pakistan,

                    We were already with them in afghan against USSR,

                    We gave them bases and route because we already were closest ally in the region.

                    accept the fact that your country can be invaded by anyone..Be prepared from invasion by uzbekistan after 2014 as they are all set to get their ancient land back.
                    Pakistan will probably be the first one to drop its pants to America. Oh and get ready for the Afghan invasion of Pakistan since they are set to get KPK and Godar back in 2020 from you clowns!
                    "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                    -Old Pashtun proverb




                    "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                      Pakistan will probably be the first one to drop its pants to America. Oh and get ready for the Afghan invasion of Pakistan since they are set to get KPK and Godar back in 2020 from you clowns!
                      bhai jaana first try to atleast get rid of the 42 countries operating in your country

                      You should rather thank ISI as only because of them it took invaders aka the coalition forces harder to defeat afghan taliban.Otherwise they would have long back divided you

                      be prepared for a division in favour of northern alliance aka Non pashtuns in afghanistan.

                      for more detail atleast visit tajikam.com and see what they think about the afghan pashtuns aka the tajik and what ideas do they have in common about a future country.


                      Pakistan pashtun wont accept neither support you because of the great betrayal you did with us by soldiing us to british
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                        bhai jaana first try to atleast get rid of the 42 countries operating in your country

                        You should rather thank ISI as only because of them it took invaders aka the coalition forces harder to defeat afghan taliban.Otherwise they would have long back divided you

                        be prepared for a division in favour of northern alliance aka Non pashtuns in afghanistan.

                        for more detail atleast visit tajikam.com and see what they think about the afghan pashtuns aka the tajik and what ideas do they have in common about a future country.


                        Pakistan pashtun wont accept neither support you because of the great betrayal you did with us by soldiing us to british
                        No, you sold your own asses to the red coats instead of fighting for your own independence. You had a chance to fight for freedom and untie with Pashtuns in Afghanistan but instead you gap the deal and become happy pakis. The only Pashtuns in porkistan that are fighting to free themselves are the Waziris and Afridis unlike you peshwaris who make pollywood movies with Punjabi women and happily eating daal while speaking Urdu. Hell, you people were ruled by a bunch of dothi wearing Sikhs.

                        And your second sentence is contradicting, Afghan Taliban are fighting collation forces to protect Afghanistan, not sell it unlike you idiots who have already sold themselves mentali to Punjabis.
                        Last edited by Kushan Prince; 11-01-2013, 05:03 PM.
                        "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                        -Old Pashtun proverb




                        "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                          No, you sold your own asses to the red coats instead of fighting for your own independence. You had a chance to fight for freedom and untie with Pashtuns in Afghanistan but instead you gap the deal and become happy pakis. The only Pashtuns in porkistan that are fighting to free themselves are the Waziris and Afridis unlike you peshwaris who make pollywood movies with Punjabi women and happily eating daal while speaking Urdu. Hell, you people were ruled by a bunch of dothi wearing Sikhs.

                          And your first paragraph is contradicting, Afghan Taliban are fighting collation forces to protect Afghanistan, not sell it unlike you idiots who have already sold themselves mentali to Punjabis.
                          lol,do you know which tribe i belong to? ?one of the above you mentioned.

                          And we are more independent than you can ever be.Afghan pashtuns are not anymore pashtun.they are kabuli.

                          And when our own People sold us.We had no reason to join them back..We don't need you but you need us.Look for the next few more years when pashtuns will become less than 30% of total afghan population.

                          Northern alliance turned into Afghan national army with very less Pashtuns ratio while the next govt will again be from non pashtuns.since the brother of karzai has disappointed america.So most probably a tajik
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                          • #73
                            why is this paki disrespecting afghan minorities? our minorities have far more ghairat than their majority.

                            this is what his overlords look like

                            There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
                              Modern slaves are not shackled and chained. Instead, they're mental slaves and are led to believe that they're free when they are being ruled by their superiors. Your country's ideology is Utter Predeshi and Bengali, your country's language is Utter Predeshi and Lucknowi, your national leaders are Gujarati and Punjabi, your national martyrs are Punjabi, your army generals are Punjabi, your state culture in Hindustani, your national anthem is Urdu/Persian, your PMs are Punjabi and yet you're free because you have the right to polish Mr Punjabi's shoes. Good thinking.

                              The only person who is a sell out here is you.

                              If you don't understand the politics of the colonial era, I can't help you out there. Afghanistan withstood the British Empire but it lost territory. That's another discussion.
                              Seems like you don't know much about Pakistan, not all Army Generals in Pakistan are Punjabis, there are Pashtuns too like General.Tariq Khan from Tank(he's a favorite to replace Kayani) about 30% of Pakistani troops are Pashtun and there are also many Kashmiris,Hindkowans,Sindhis and Seraikis as well Muhajirs.
                              Your country's ideology is Utter Predeshi and Bengali
                              Pakistan's ideology is Islam, and last time I checked Islam was not from UP or Bengal.

                              The majority of Pakistan's PMs/Presidents were not Punjabi:
                              Liaqat Ali Khan:Muhajir
                              Ayub Khan:Pashtun
                              Yahya Khan:Qizilbash
                              ZA Bhutto:Sindhi
                              Zia:Punjabi
                              Benazir Bhutto:Sindhi
                              Nawaz Sharif:Kashmiri(He's not Punjabi like many people think)
                              Musharraf:Muhajir
                              Shaukat Aziz:Muhajir
                              Asif Zardari:Sindhi-Baluch
                              Yusuf Gilani:Seraiki

                              If you don't understand the politics of the colonial era, I can't help you out there. Afghanistan withstood the British Empire but it lost territory. That's another discussion.
                              Afghanistan didn't lose it's territory, it surrendered them, so Afghanistan has no right to claim KPK, just like Pakistan has no right to claim Bangladesh.
                              Last edited by EvilPakistani; 11-02-2013, 11:12 AM.
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