Pakistan has spent $200 billion on Afghan refugees

[EvilPakistani]

200billion dollars indeed is an ass pulled number.

In short,Give citizenship of the already existing Afghan refugees on the domicile of either KPK or Balochistan

Never allow a single afghan refugee after that most importantly after 2014

Rather develop a system and establish a visa system on the border for free but the other must return within 2 weeks.

That would be a bad idea, I think we should deport all those immigrants after 2014, most of them hate Pakistan, so why should we keep them?They're going to create more problems for us.

There shouldn't be a visa waiver program with Afghanistan, Pakistan should fence the Durand line, and deploy Border patrol guards, that's what Pakistan needs to learn from Iran.

If an Afghan wants to visit Pakistan, they should go to the Pak embassy in Kabul.

[Friend]

Mr evil
Your army and govt has signed agreements to do drone attacks. Your army does not care about its people. Your army is a bunch of munafiqeen and beghairat.

[Bost Bastan News]

What country doesn't receive aid from America?

Afghanistan is THE largest recipient of US aid, Afghanistan receives more aid than Israel.

Iraq is 3rd on the list for receiving US aid and Pakistan is 4th.

So next time you try mocking Pakistan for "depending" on American handouts, you need to look at your country first.

We are depending on America because evil Pakistan-Saudi alliance and Panjabi terrorism in our regions. We also don´t missuse the money by creating or supporting terrorists in Pakistan against Islamabad. That´s the difference! Pakistan and Afghanistan are racing eachother on the same poverty level.

[EvilPakistani]

We are depending on America because evil Pakistan-Saudi alliance and Panjabi terrorism in our regions. We also don´t missuse the money by creating or supporting terrorists in Pakistan against Islamabad. That´s the difference! Pakistan and Afghanistan are racing eachother on the same poverty level.

We needed to keep Afghanistan unstable in order to bring an end to that 'Loy Afghanistan' bullcrap your rulers wanted.

Perhaps if Afghanistan not opposed Pakistan's creation in the UN security council, had it recognized the Durand, we wouldn't have cared about your country,we wouldn't have interfered in Afghanistan, but you decided to mess with us, and now you faced the wrath.

[Bost Bastan News]

We needed to keep Afghanistan unstable in order to bring an end to that 'Loy Afghanistan' bullcrap your rulers wanted.

Perhaps if Afghanistan not opposed Pakistan's creation in the UN security council, had it recognized the Durand, we wouldn't have cared about your country,we wouldn't have interfered in Afghanistan, but you decided to mess with us, and now you faced the wrath.

You are right! Some of our foolish leaders are responsible for their ideas and nationalism but they haven´t represented Afghanistan, only themselves and their families. Those ''leaders'' couldn´t gain anything even if Pakistan hadn´t intervene because majority of Pashtuns in Pakistan are Pakistani citizenship and are proud Pakistanis! BUT YOU BLOOD-SUCKERS DESTROYED ALL AFGHANISTAN because of two or three foolish persons! But now you are facing the wrath of Afghanistan. Times changes. Old rulers go and new ones come. The dark days of dark-skinned Pakistanis are over. But be sure your own leaders are no more interested in accepting Durandline from Afghan side. They want Afghanistan as their new province. Talking about Durandline is just a farce. If Durandline is accepted Pakistan has no any reason to intervene in Afghanistan and can no more control parts of Afghanistan. Don´t be that stupid to believe everything is easy. Pakis claim Afghanistan today as their country.

[EvilPakistani]

You are right! Some of our foolish leaders are responsible for their ideas and nationalism but they haven´t represented Afghanistan, only themselves and their families. Those ''leaders'' couldn´t gain anything even if Pakistan hadn´t intervene because majority of Pashtuns in Pakistan are Pakistani citizenship and are proud Pakistanis! BUT YOU BLOOD-SUCKERS DESTROYED ALL AFGHANISTAN because of two or three foolish persons! But now you are facing the wrath of Afghanistan. Times changes. Old rulers go and new ones come. The dark days of dark-skinned Pakistanis are over. But be sure your own leaders are no more interested in accepting Durandline from Afghan side. They want Afghanistan as their new province. Talking about Durandline is just a farce. If Durandline is accepted Pakistan has no any reason to intervene in Afghanistan and can no more control parts of Afghanistan. Don´t be that stupid to believe everything is easy. Pakis claim Afghanistan today as their country.

No, we do NOT want Afghanistan, we already have enough problems, don't need to add any more.

BUT YOU BLOOD-SUCKERS DESTROYED ALL AFGHANISTAN

It was worth it!

The dark days of dark-skinned Pakistanis are over.

Why are you so obsessed with skintone?The average Afghan is only a few shades lighter than the average Pakistani, and in the eyes of White people, we're all a bunch of camel jockeys.

P.S we don't want anything from Afghanistan.

[Smarty]

KPK is NOT Afghan land, you need to process that information in your birdbrain, it's never going to them, the Durand line is official, and all these illegal immigrants need to go back to where they came from.

Durand line might be considered an international border but it is not yet resolved between Afghanistan and Pakistan. The two states might balkanize in the future but pashtun nation is going to stay on their lands.
Always remember that pakistani pashtuns consider pakistan as confederation of four nations, the day you guys declare it punjabistan , then that would be the end of the story for pakistan .

We have nothing to do with Ismaeli kafir jinnah and his british sponsored pakistan movement ,Pashtuns have purely econmoic interesets in Pakistan thats why you see them in every corner of pakistan.You Punjabis and Hindustani mohajirs can take the entire credit for pakistan movement. For us it is not "sub sey pehley pakistan" but sub sey pehley islam. 90% Pashtuns are deobandis and deobandis rejected the agha khani's pakistani ideology.

[Smarty]

No, we do NOT want Afghanistan, we already have enough problems, don't need to add any more.


It was worth it!



Why are you so obsessed with skintone?The average Afghan is only a few shades lighter than the average Pakistani, and in the eyes of White people, we're all a bunch of camel jockeys.

P.S we don't want anything from Afghanistan.

pakistan interfered in afghanistan affairs for strategic depth purpose , to use it as backyard due its paranoia and fear from india. Afghanistan's claim on FATA, KPK and balochistan has never troubled pakistan that much so that has never been the primary motive for interfering in afghanistan.

[EvilPakistani]

Durand line might be considered an international border but it is not yet resolved between Afghanistan and Pakistan. The two states might balkanize in the future but pashtun nation is going to stay on their lands.
Always remember that pakistani pashtuns consider pakistan as confederation of four nations, the day you guys declare it punjabistan , then that would be the end of the story for pakistan .

We have nothing to do with Ismaeli kafir jinnah and his british sponsored pakistan movement ,Pashtuns have purely econmoic interesets in Pakistan thats why you see them in every corner of pakistan.You Punjabis and Hindustani mohajirs can take the entire credit for pakistan movement. For us it is not "sub sey pehley pakistan" but sub sey pehley islam. 90% Pashtuns are deobandis and deobandis rejected the agha khani's pakistani ideology.

So the only country in the world that doesn't recognize the Durand line is Afghanistan, what makes you think we care about their opinions?Afghanistan needs to move on, focus on it's economy and infrastructure instead of trying to expand it's territory .

Pakistan will never be "Punjabistan", it's a diverse country and it will stay that way, and most Punjabis aren't that nationalistic, they don't want to create a Punjabi-only country either.

Jinnah might have been an Ismaili Shia, but I consider Shias Muslim too, even though I am Sunni, I think we shouldn't divide ourselves along sectarian line, and you might think of Jinnah as a Kafir but the Qur'an says nobody can judge another Muslim once a Muslim believes in the first Kalma, so it is against the teachings of Islam to call another Muslim a Kafir, even if that Muslim may not be that pious.

Without Jinnah,Iqbal and other Muslim league leader , Pakistan wouldn't have been created and that means all of present-day Pakistan, including KPK would have been under Hindu rule.

Jinnah wasn't the only leader in the movement, there were many other leaders like Iqbal and others and most of them were Sunnis.

You Punjabis and Hindustani mohajirs can take the entire credit for pakistan movement.

I'm not a Punjabi nor am I a "Muhajir", it is true that most of the leaders of Pakistan initially were from these two groups.

For us it is not "sub sey pehley pakistan" but sub sey pehley islam. 90% Pashtuns are deobandis and deobandis rejected the agha khani's pakistani ideology.

Most Pakistani-Muslims view themselves as Muslim first and Pakistani second, so it isn't just Pashtuns, just because you're Pashtun that doesn't mean you're a superior Muslim.

Ever since Zia-ul-Haq ruled Pakistan, deobandism has grown rapidly in Pakistan and today most Sunnis in Pakistan split between Deobandis and Barelvis, so there are many non-Pashtuns that are Deobandi, but I personally think Zia contributed towards the radicalization of Pakistan, and the Deobandi movement were his accomplice.

You claim that Pashtuns rejected Jinnah's "ideology"(whatever that is), but even if KPK had joined Afghanistan they would've been secularized because the Afghan monarchy was very liberal and they wanted to emulate Turkey, and even if Deobandis opposed Pakistan's creation, they now dominate Pakistan.

This is what Shahid Afridi had to say about ethnic nationalism:
Star Cricketer Shahid Afridi Slams America - Slap On Pakistani Politicians & Intellectuals - YouTube

[EvilPakistani]

pakistan interfered in afghanistan affairs for strategic depth purpose , to use it as backyard due its paranoia and fear from india. Afghanistan's claim on FATA, KPK and balochistan has never troubled pakistan that much so that has never been the primary motive for interfering in afghanistan.

That too but one of the main reasons we kept Afghanistan unstable was because of that "Loy Afghanistan" bs.

So whatever the reasons, we had legitimate concerns, and we addressed them.

[M17ArnoBaloch]

Why are you so obsessed with skintone?The average Afghan is only a few shades lighter than the average Pakistani, and in the eyes of White people, we're all a bunch of camel jockeys.

P.S we don't want anything from Afghanistan.

An average afghan is not just lighter in skin tone but also have different "facial structure". Most afghans look like tanned Italians and those who have white skin tone look like whites. It depends on what shade you are looking at and where. Afghans are all different. They all look different. There are different kinds of Afghans, for example Hazaras look like chinese/koreans, Pashtuns can pass as europemans, iranians, iraqis, syrians, or sometimes white and even indians. Tajiks are amateur persians and look like persians. Uzbeks look like a mixture of hazara and tajik and so on. They all look different from eachother.

Panjabis on the other hand look alike and are indic stock and look like indians. No panjabi i have seen look like a white guy because by racial they are typical indians. Even if an afghan has tanned skin or skin color same as a panjabi guy they would both look different. If you stand them together you could tell which one's a panjabi and which one's an Afghan.

Afghanistan has different blonde genes, colored eye genes, Panjabis have none of that and I am not being racist it's a fact. The only way a panjabi would have colored eyes is because he's mixed because Majority of panjabis come from indic stock and the fact that they are indians. This is not racim, this is true. Also there are different shades of pashtuns. If a panjabi goes abroad, most people would think he's an Indian. But if an Afghan goes abroad, people would assume tons of different ethnicities and nationalities, some might think he is a turk, a greek, an italian, a mexican, russian, white person, indian, so on blah blah.

Btw, The united states government has classified Afghanistan as a white country. This is not comming from me, this is comming from them. So its not just a few shades lighter but a whole different race and people.

Just saying, not being racist. This is a true fact.

It is true that the Pakistani government corrupt and they probably made that number up, but so is the Afghan government.

Pakistan doesn't use drones on Afghan refugees, America uses drones on Pashtuns in North Waziristan.

Pakistan hasn't carried out ANY operation or atrocities against Afghan refugees but many Afghan refugees are involved in violent crimes and drug trafficking, as well as pederasty, they've turned Karachi into Kabul.

KPK is NOT Afghan land, you need to process that information in your birdbrain, it's never going to them, the Durand line is official, and all these illegal immigrants need to go back to where they came from.

Afghanistan's government is equally as corrupt as the Pakistani government, or maybe a little more messed up. Afghanistan's government takes orders from the Pakistani government and the Pakistani government takes orders from the United States. Since pakistan's nuclear and Afghanistan's a poor country with loads of terrorist activity, Afghanistan has no choice but to accept Pakistan and US policies. They are hub of war and crimes. Afghanistan has serious attention globally and Afghanistan is very poor enough to declare war on Pakistan/US or at least drive them away from it's boundaries, it simply can't.

Pakistan let's the US drop drone bombs on Khyber Pakhtunkwa through a policy in which massive amounts of Pashtuns die since they only allow drone bombs in Pashtun cities and territories. Why doesn't the US drop drone bombs in Karachi or Lahore or Islamabad? They are full of terrorism too. They are hub of terrorism too. The amount of bomb blasts happen in KPK also happen in Karachi or Panjab area. Why not there? its because those cities are populated with Panjabis. Pakistan won't allow drones on Panjabi population. It only allows on Pashtun populated areas where Pashtuns die.

It is true that the Pakistani government corrupt and they probably made that number up, but so is the Afghan government.

Pakistan doesn't use drones on Afghan refugees, America uses drones on Pashtuns in North Waziristan.

Pakistan hasn't carried out ANY operation or atrocities against Afghan refugees but many Afghan refugees are involved in violent crimes and drug trafficking, as well as pederasty, they've turned Karachi into Kabul.

KPK is NOT Afghan land, you need to process that information in your birdbrain, it's never going to them, the Durand line is official, and all these illegal immigrants need to go back to where they came from.

Are you high at the moment or someone has inserted a rack your anal rectum? Biggest lie anyone could tell anyone, comming from a shiitpie who doesn't know much about the Secret Inteligence agencies and their agenda. You should stop backing up Pakistan like that since you have no idea what kind of brutality goes around ISI and Pak army. Just because you are a patriot you shouldn't be licking every poop loop of Pakistan. Try to understand, being a patriot doesnt mean that Pakistan is all innocent and should be backed up with every information possible since it's an "islamic country" and your duty as a Pakistani to support it. Even Americans criticize their country for blanting wars on other nations like Afghanistan, Iraq. Even american patriots criticize their country. Blindly saying your country is a new born innocent and shoulnd't be criticized ever or at all makes you not just a pathetic muslim but a pathetic individual.

KPK is NOT Afghan land, you need to process that information in your birdbrain, it's never going to them, the Durand line is official, and all these illegal immigrants need to go back to where they came from.

KPK is Afghan land. Demographies show and even proof such as files, documents and agreements show that it belonged to Afghanistan and lawfully in 1999 should be returned back to Afghanistan but it didnt. Technically, documents and proof show that it's a part of Afghanistan's land now (prior to 1999). It is now a part of Afghanistan just like it once always did in past. People living there are called "Pashtuns". Pashtuns are ethnically, racially, traditionally, physically, mentally and originally Afghans. Every Pashtun is an Afghan. And Afghans comming to KPK are already Afghans and the land belongs to them and all Pashtuns. It's like saying "evacuate your house, and I get to keep your house", this is pathetic. Its like renting an apartment to a person and the end of the month instead of paying the rent, the tenant claims that the apartment now belongs to him. That's ridiculous.

[EvilPakistani]

An average afghan is not just lighter in skin tone but also have different "facial structure". Most afghans look like tanned Italians and those who have white skin tone look like whites. It depends on what shade you are looking at and where. Afghans are all different. They all look different. There are different kinds of Afghans, for example Hazaras look like chinese/koreans, Pashtuns can pass as europemans, iranians, iraqis, syrians, or sometimes white and even indians. Tajiks are amateur persians and look like persians. Uzbeks look like a mixture of hazara and tajik and so on. They all look different from eachother.

Panjabis on the other hand look alike and are indic stock and look like indians. No panjabi i have seen look like a white guy because by racial they are typical indians. Even if an afghan has tanned skin or skin color same as a panjabi guy they would both look different. If you stand them together you could tell which one's a panjabi and which one's an Afghan.

Afghanistan has different blonde genes, colored eye genes, Panjabis have none of that and I am not being racist it's a fact. The only way a panjabi would have colored eyes is because he's mixed because Majority of panjabis come from indic stock and the fact that they are indians. This is not racim, this is true. Also there are different shades of pashtuns. If a panjabi goes abroad, most people would think he's an Indian. But if an Afghan goes abroad, people would assume tons of different ethnicities and nationalities, some might think he is a turk, a greek, an italian, a mexican, russian, white person, indian, so on blah blah.

Btw, The united states government has classified Afghanistan as a white country. This is not comming from me, this is comming from them. So its not just a few shades lighter but a whole different race and people.

Just saying, not being racist. This is a true fact.



Afghanistan's government is equally as corrupt as the Pakistani government, or maybe a little more messed up. Afghanistan's government takes orders from the Pakistani government and the Pakistani government takes orders from the United States. Since pakistan's nuclear and Afghanistan's a poor country with loads of terrorist activity, Afghanistan has no choice but to accept Pakistan and US policies. They are hub of war and crimes. Afghanistan has serious attention globally and Afghanistan is very poor enough to declare war on Pakistan/US or at least drive them away from it's boundaries, it simply can't.

Pakistan let's the US drop drone bombs on Khyber Pakhtunkwa through a policy in which massive amounts of Pashtuns die since they only allow drone bombs in Pashtun cities and territories. Why doesn't the US drop drone bombs in Karachi or Lahore or Islamabad? They are full of terrorism too. They are hub of terrorism too. The amount of bomb blasts happen in KPK also happen in Karachi or Panjab area. Why not there? its because those cities are populated with Panjabis. Pakistan won't allow drones on Panjabi population. It only allows on Pashtun populated areas where Pashtuns die.



Biggest lie anyone could tell anyone, comming from a shiitpie who doesn't know much about the Secret Inteligence agencies and their agenda. You should stop backing up Pakistan like that since you have no idea what kind of brutality goes around ISI and Pak army. Just because you are a patriot you shouldn't be licking every poop loop of Pakistan. Try to understand, being a patriot doesnt mean that Pakistan is all innocent and should be backed up with every information possible since it's an "islamic country" and your duty as a Pakistani to support it. Even Americans criticize their country for blanting wars on other nations like Afghanistan, Iraq. Even american patriots criticize their country. Blindly saying your country is a new born innocent and shoulnd't be criticized ever or at all makes you not just a pathetic muslim but a pathetic individual.



KPK is Afghan land. Demographies show and even proof such as files, documents and agreements show that it belonged to Afghanistan and lawfully in 1999 should be returned back to Afghanistan but it didnt. Technically, documents and proof show that it's a part of Afghanistan's land now (prior to 1999). It is now a part of Afghanistan just like it once always did in past. People living there are called "Pashtuns". Pashtuns are ethnically, racially, traditionally, physically, mentally and originally Afghans. Every Pashtun is an Afghan. And Afghans comming to KPK are already Afghans and the land belongs to them and all Pashtuns. It's like saying "evacuate your house, and I get to keep your house", this is pathetic. Its like renting an apartment to a person and the end of the month instead of paying the rent, the tenant claims that the apartment now belongs to him. That's ridiculous.

An average afghan is not just lighter in skin tone but also have different "facial structure".

Not going to disagree with that, but this thread isn't about physical features or phenotypes.

Most afghans look like tanned Italians and those who have white skin tone look like whites.

I don't think so, I mean there might be the odd Afghan that passes for Italian, but it isn't that common, and most non-whites have an obsession with being Italian, especially Persian people.

This the facial Average of an Afghan:
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And this is the facial average of an Italian:
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Panjabis on the other hand look alike and are indic stock and look like indians. No panjabi i have seen look like a white guy because by racial they are typical indians.

Obviously, Punjabis aren't white, but not all Indians look the same, because India is a VERY diverse country, North Indians and South Indians have physical differences, and in India, Punjabis are considered to be relatively lighter than the average Indian, many of the Indian actors are Punjabi, it would be very ignorant to ignore the ethnic diversity of India but then state the diversity of Afghanistan.

I've yet to see a Nordic-looking Afghan-Pashtun either, the lightest ones look Mediterranean, only the Nuristanis might have some Nordic looking people.

This Indian actor is a Punjabi, and I think he could pass for white-Mediterranean-esque :

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The united states government has classified Afghanistan as a white country. This is not comming from me, this is comming from them. So its not just a few shades lighter but a whole different race and people.

Yes, the US census bureau classifies people of "European,North African and Middle Eastern descent" as white, that includes Afghanistan, but the majority of "White people" don't view them as such, in fact in America many Greeks aren't considered white enough, if you don't look like Nord then the average White person won't see you as white, and if you're a Muslim, then they will never see you as white.

The Boston Bombers were Chechens, they looked White, they were classified as such but ordinary Americans don't view them as white, cause apparently they had a Jew nose,black hair and sallow skin, and they were Muslim.

The US census bureau can classify you as anything but that doesn't mean the average person agrees with that, according to Stormfront(a white supremacy site) you're only white if you are of "wholly European descent" and follow Judeo-Christian values.

If Afghanistan were really seen as a "White" country then America never would have invaded it, the American people would see them as human.

As far as race is concerned,White is not even a race, it's a social construct, there are 4 races, Caucasoid,Mongoloid,Negroid and Australoid.

The Caucasoids stretch from Iceland down south to Sri Lanka.

Mongoloids, are East Asians,Native Americans and Eskimos.

Negroids are sub-Saharan Africans.

Australoids are South Indians,Australian Aborigines, and maybe Brahuis.

So Afghans aren't really a different race from Pakistanis, heck Afgahns aren't different racially from Swedes either, they just have different phenotypes.

KPK is Afghan land. Demographies show and even proof such as files, documents and agreements show that it belonged to Afghanistan and lawfully in 1999 should be returned back to Afghanistan but it didnt. Technically, documents and proof show that it's a part of Afghanistan's land now (prior to 1999). It is now a part of Afghanistan just like it once always did in past. People living there are called "Pashtuns". Pashtuns are ethnically, racially, traditionally, physically, mentally and originally Afghans. Every Pashtun is an Afghan. And Afghans comming to KPK are already Afghans and the land belongs to them and all Pashtuns. It's like saying "evacuate your house, and I get to keep your house", this is pathetic. Its like renting an apartment to a person and the end of the month instead of paying the rent, the tenant claims that the apartment now belongs to him. That's ridiculous.

I already answered this many times in 2 different threads, don't want to debate with you about this again, because neither of us are going to change our points of view, so it's a waste of time, I responded to all of your asinine points, not going to do it again.

[M17ArnoBaloch]

The pictures that you provided look somewhat similar.

Obviously, Punjabis aren't white, but not all Indians look the same, because India is a VERY diverse country, North Indians and South Indians have physical differences, and in India, Punjabis are considered to be relatively lighter than the average Indian, many of the Indian actors are Punjabi, it would be very ignorant to ignore the ethnic diversity of India but then state the diversity of Afghanistan.

I've yet to see a Nordic-looking Afghan-Pashtun either, the lightest ones look Mediterranean, only the Nuristanis might have some Nordic looking people.

This Indian actor is a Punjabi, and I think he could pass for white-Mediterranean-esque :

India is diverse because it was once ruled by Afghans, Sher shah suri, etc. Also Aryan people came in India and mixed as well. Many people came to India such as the mughals too, and a ton more from time to time etc. So there you have it. And these instances for example that dude you showed me. These people are EXTREMELY RARE. Really rare. So it could mean that their genes and blood are denoted by some outsider and a non-Panjabi since punjabis don't look like that. So that means his ancestory line must have some "outsider" for him to look like that, hence mixed. Because Panjabis don't look like that at ALL. He is a resultant of mixed product or a non-indic ancestor.

The Boston Bombers were Chechens, they looked White, they were classified as such but ordinary Americans don't view them as white, cause apparently they had a Jew nose,black hair and sallow skin, and they were Muslim.

They weren't that white at all. They looked like a mix of Arab/Labonese/Syrian, etc. Syrians look like that on a daily basis (almost average). They weren't that white. So Obviously not nordic.

The US census bureau can classify you as anything but that doesn't mean the average person agrees with that, according to Stormfront(a white supremacy site) you're only white if you are of "wholly European descent" and follow Judeo-Christian values.

I agree being white also has to do with Judeo-Christian values and if you are a muslim it breaks that barrier.

As far as race is concerned,White is not even a race, it's a social construct, there are 4 races, Caucasoid,Mongoloid,Negroid and Australoid.

I agree.

So Afghans aren't really a different race from Pakistanis, heck Afgahns aren't different racially from Swedes either, they just have different phenotypes.

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You are really messed up in the head for saying that. Pakistanis/Panjabis are difference race than Afghans. Pashtuns, Balochs, Kalash, recent Tajiks/Hazara immigrants in Pakistan, Chitralis, and a few other ethnicities are iranic race, They don't originate from present day Pakistan or panjabis and are different race originating from different areas. Panjabis originated from India and India Punjab. That's their home town and place of orign. And Afghans having different phenotypes is a proof that they are different race indicating different ancestory comming from different places and being part of different races.

I already answered this many times in 2 different threads, don't want to debate with you about this again, because neither of us are going to change our points of view, so it's a waste of time, I responded to all of your asinine points, not going to do it again.

No matter what you say that land belongs to Afghans not Punjabis. Who do you think think Khyber belongs to Punjabis or Afghans? OBVIOUSLY Afghans because historically it was a part of Afghanistan and was snatched away from Afghanistan. And proofs, documents show that the land is NOW Afghanistans land or should be returned.

Are your adoptive parents your real biological parents? Even though they raised you they can never be your biological parents. Same goes with pashtuns, if they are now in a different country than their original country Afghanistan, they are always Afghans because biologically they ARE AFGHANS.

[EvilPakistani]

The pictures that you provided look somewhat similar.



India is diverse because it was once ruled by Afghans, Sher shah suri, etc. Also Aryan people came in India and mixed as well. Many people came to India such as the mughals too, and a ton more from time to time etc. So there you have it. And these instances for example that dude you showed me. These people are EXTREMELY RARE. Really rare. So it could mean that their genes and blood are denoted by some outsider and a non-Panjabi since punjabis don't look like that. So that means his ancestory line must have some "outsider" for him to look like that, hence mixed. Because Panjabis don't look like that at ALL. He is a resultant of mixed product or a non-indic ancestor.



They weren't that white at all. They looked like a mix of Arab/Labonese/Syrian, etc. Syrians look like that on a daily basis (almost average). They weren't that white. So Obviously not nordic.



I agree being white also has to do with Judeo-Christian values and if you are a muslim it breaks that barrier.



I agree.



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You are really messed up in the head for saying that. Pakistanis/Panjabis are difference race than Afghans. Pashtuns, Balochs, Kalash, recent Tajiks/Hazara immigrants in Pakistan, Chitralis, and a few other ethnicities are iranic race, They don't originate from present day Pakistan or panjabis and are different race originating from different areas. Panjabis originated from India and India Punjab. That's their home town and place of orign. And Afghans having different phenotypes is a proof that they are different race indicating different ancestory comming from different places and being part of different races.



No matter what you say that land belongs to Afghans not Punjabis. Who do you think think Khyber belongs to Punjabis or Afghans? OBVIOUSLY Afghans because historically it was a part of Afghanistan and was snatched away from Afghanistan. And proofs, documents show that the land is NOW Afghanistans land or should be returned.

Are your adoptive parents your real biological parents? Even though they raised you they can never be your biological parents. Same goes with pashtuns, if they are now in a different country than their original country Afghanistan, they are always Afghans because biologically they ARE AFGHANS.

You are really messed up in the head for saying that. Pakistanis/Panjabis are difference race than Afghans. Pashtuns, Balochs, Kalash, recent Tajiks/Hazara immigrants in Pakistan, Chitralis, and a few other ethnicities are iranic race, They don't originate from present day Pakistan or panjabis and are different race originating from different areas. Panjabis originated from India and India Punjab. That's their home town and place of orign. And Afghans having different phenotypes is a proof that they are different race indicating different ancestory comming from different places and being part of different races.

For the hundreth time, Pakistani isn't a race, it's a nationality, nor is it an ethnicity, Pakistan is a melting pot of cultures, I already said that Punjabis have different phenotypes from Pashtuns and Pashtuns have different phenotypes from Swedes, but they're all caucasians, even Sri Lankans are Caucasian and they look different from Punjabis because they have different phenotypes otherwise they're all part of the Caucasian race.

South Indians and Australian Aborigines look a bit different from each other but they're still part of the Australoid race.

India is diverse because it was once ruled by Afghans, Sher shah suri, etc.

Not just Afghans, but Turks,Arabs and Persians contributed to the diversity, and before all of them the Aryans did contribute as well, because they were first to invade India and they brought their religion with them, which most Indians still follow, and then the English came too and they bred with some people producing Anglo-Indians like Russel Peters, and the Portuguese ruled over places like Goa and mixed as well.

Many people came to India such as the mughals too, and a ton more from time to time etc. So there you have it. And these instances for example that dude you showed me. These people are EXTREMELY RARE.

Punjabi Jats tend to like that, they're apparently the highest caste of Punjabis.

No matter what you say that land belongs to Afghans not Punjabis. Who do you think think Khyber belongs to Punjabis or Afghans? OBVIOUSLY Afghans because historically it was a part of Afghanistan and was snatched away from Afghanistan. And proofs, documents show that the land is NOW Afghanistans land or should be returned.

I never said KPK belonged to Punjabis, it belongs to Pashtuns and Pashtuns(the ones in KPK) are Pakistani, so KPK belongs to Pakistan, and in recent years Pashtuns have been migrating all over Pakistan, so other Pakistani ethnic groups have the right to move there if they want.

I'm not going to debate about this again, cause I've already presented my case, if you disagree then read my previous posts, but it's still useless cause neither of us will change our points of view.

[Bost Bastan News]

Mr. Baloch, Balochi people are closely related with non-white people, including descendents of Africans in Asia and Brahuis (Dravidian people) and semitic people. How can you count yourself (then in that case) to us? Only your language make you Indo-Aryanian. However, in generel Afghans and Panjabis and all those northern Indian people are genetical very close to eachother. In fact Pashtuns of every tribe is closer to an northern Indian than to themselves. Facial features shouldn´t play a role since a vast majority of Afghans are neither close to ''Italians'' nor to any other southern European people, so Panjabis, Baluchis and Indians. Many Pashtuns are also dark-skinned. One can clearly differenciate an Italian from an Afghan. ''Medi-terranean'' means just being close to the border people between Asians and Europeans. Culturally and historcally Afghanistan and Pakistan share a lot of thing. Our traditional Afghan clothes are close to that of Panjabis. Our islamic heritage is the same. Our history is mostly the same. We lived for centuries and milienias as neighbours. That´s because we share in fact a common civilisation. We Afghans are not racists toward Pakistanis but we hate the Pakistani government. I don´t think that you Balochi people have right to feel superior to anyone as we don´t have any reasons. Only some stupid Afghans and racists care about fascial features. In Pakistan Pashtuns are close to urbanization. Urbanization also means to become mixed with non-Pashtuns and accept a Panjabi wife or husband. Isn´t Gwadar and Quetta already overranned by Panjabis who are a integrated part of the population? We shouldn´t devide people. We should work for unity. Only unity can solve our problems but when we are creating lines among us than we will destroy ourselves. The tribal areas of Pakistan and Afghanistan both are good examples.