punjabi minister abid sher ali abused pashtuns

[M17ArnoBaloch]

I wouldn't call them traitors, they're Pakistani, and since you're from Swabi, so are you.

In a referendum in 1947, 50.1% of Pashtuns chose Pakistan over India, you only had two choices:
1.Join India.
2.Join Pakistan

The Britons didn't give you the choice for independence.

According to recent Gallup poll 88% of Pashtuns in Baluchistan don't want to seccede from Pakistan, and KPK Pashtuns are even more Patriotic than Baluch Pashtuns, so if we had the referendum today, Pakistan would win.
Would you like to speak Dari?Do you want to serve the Persians who very racist towards Pashtuns, even more so than Punjabis(I don't think they are racist tho).


I don't think it would be fair to call Jinnah a Kafir, he might have lived an unIslamic life, but he believed in the first kalima and according to the Qur'an you can't judge somebody's faith once they've said the Kalima.

Pakistan didn't become an Islamic Republic until 1956, and Jinnah died in 1948.

What makes you think Bacha Khan and the Pashtun nationalists are pious Muslims?

Bengalis dumped us cause of the HUGE distance between East and West Pakistan, the Indians infiltrated, there were many Hindus in East Pakistan that were loyal to India.

East Pakistan was actually more developed than West Pakistan, it had more schools and hospitals, west Pakistan was neglected during the British Raj, and soon after independence the Government tried to bridge the gap between East and West Pakistan, the Bengalis didn't like that, they wanted all the Power, they wanted Bengali to become the national language cause they were the majority.

Have you ever heard Punjabi saying that Punjabi should be the national language of Pakistan?Never.

Punjabis have sacrificed their identity and heritage for a Pakistani identity, the Bengalis wanted all of us to become Bengalis, the treated non-Bengalis like crap, they raped non-Bengali girls during the war, General Tikka Khan put them in their place.

The durand line agreement FINISHED in 1999. Legally the land should be given back since the agreement says so. So why is it not back yet?

The Other half of Balochistan was occupied by Porkistanis in 1948. One year later after independence. Are you aware of it? Are you aware of Khan of Kalat, when Balochistan was ruled by the Khans of Qalat? Have you heard of Balochistan occupation? Go read the history.

Real Pakistan is minus Balochistan and Khyber. What left is Panjab/Sindh. That's the real Pakistan, that's what it started as. Panjabis are real Pakistanis, Before Pakistanis 60 years ago they were Indians. Balochistan and Khyber Pakhtunkwa is not Pakistan's land. That's stolen land and their people now paying the ultimate price to to live with daalkhors. Their people have been brainwashed as young kids in Schools about the might of porkistan. That's why every kid grows up to be Patriotic but still in Balochistan, majority wants seperation, go to Balochistan and you will experience it yourself.

[Bengal_Tiger]

I wouldn't call them traitors, they're Pakistani, and since you're from Swabi, so are you.

In a referendum in 1947, 50.1% of Pashtuns chose Pakistan over India, you only had two choices:
1.Join India.
2.Join Pakistan

The Britons didn't give you the choice for independence.

According to recent Gallup poll 88% of Pashtuns in Baluchistan don't want to seccede from Pakistan, and KPK Pashtuns are even more Patriotic than Baluch Pashtuns, so if we had the referendum today, Pakistan would win.
Would you like to speak Dari?Do you want to serve the Persians who very racist towards Pashtuns, even more so than Punjabis(I don't think they are racist tho).


I don't think it would be fair to call Jinnah a Kafir, he might have lived an unIslamic life, but he believed in the first kalima and according to the Qur'an you can't judge somebody's faith once they've said the Kalima.

Pakistan didn't become an Islamic Republic until 1956, and Jinnah died in 1948.

What makes you think Bacha Khan and the Pashtun nationalists are pious Muslims?

Bengalis dumped us cause of the HUGE distance between East and West Pakistan, the Indians infiltrated, there were many Hindus in East Pakistan that were loyal to India.

East Pakistan was actually more developed than West Pakistan, it had more schools and hospitals, west Pakistan was neglected during the British Raj, and soon after independence the Government tried to bridge the gap between East and West Pakistan, the Bengalis didn't like that, they wanted all the Power, they wanted Bengali to become the national language cause they were the majority.

Have you ever heard Punjabi saying that Punjabi should be the national language of Pakistan?Never.

Punjabis have sacrificed their identity and heritage for a Pakistani identity, the Bengalis wanted all of us to become Bengalis, the treated non-Bengalis like crap, they raped non-Bengali girls during the war, General Tikka Khan put them in their place.

1. Punjabis are racists and have chosen and continue to chose ethnicity race above Islam.

They pay lip service to "Muslim brotherhood" but wouldn't accept Bengali leaders or fair treatment for Bengalis.

They discriminated against Bengalis in the pre-71 Pakistan and now discriminate against Indian-origin Mohajirs whom they call "kalu" (black).

2. East Pakistan/Bengal was the majority province but was a colony of the western wing, with no proper army. Bengali locals treated in a humiliating way in their own land by west Pakistani civil servants.

3. East Pakistan was a net exporter whilst the west was a net importer. The money made in the East was then just used to fund the west.

4. Bengalis despite being the majority were only given 15% of civil service jobs and were continuously discriminated against.

5. Bengalis won elections in 1970 and the racist West Pakistanis could not accept a Bengali-led government and started massacres slaughtering Muslim men, women and children and also the Hindu community.

Your post above is a complete distortion of reality, full of lies and would not even be accepted by any serious Pakistani scholar, who essentially admit the unfair treatment of Bengalis by racist West Pakistani Punjabis such as yourself.

Anyway we have an independent Bangladesh and are free from the likes of you, whilst your country is burning with

- TTP killing Pakistani generals.
- TTP bombing mosques.
- Balochistan a no-go zone for Punjabi colonists.
- MQM causing terror in Karachi
- Feudal slavery
- Power shortages
- Hated by Afghans
- Looked down upon by Iranians


You Punjabis are hated by all Muslims in the region i.e. Afghans, Pashtuns, Sindhis, Balochis, Muhajirs, Bengalis etc.

Look at yourselves and change yourselves.

[EvilPakistani]

The durand line agreement FINISHED in 1999. Legally the land should be given back since the agreement says so. So why is it not back yet?

The Other half of Balochistan was occupied by Porkistanis in 1948. One year later after independence. Are you aware of it? Are you aware of Khan of Kalat, when Balochistan was ruled by the Khans of Qalat? Have you heard of Balochistan occupation? Go read the history.

Real Pakistan is minus Balochistan and Khyber. What left is Panjab/Sindh. That's the real Pakistan, that's what it started as. Panjabis are real Pakistanis, Before Pakistanis 60 years ago they were Indians. Balochistan and Khyber Pakhtunkwa is not Pakistan's land. That's stolen land and their people now paying the ultimate price to to live with daalkhors. Their people have been brainwashed as young kids in Schools about the might of porkistan. That's why every kid grows up to be Patriotic but still in Balochistan, majority wants seperation, go to Balochistan and you will experience it yourself.

Afghanistan had signed the agreement in 1893 with BRITAIN not Pakistan, so if you want KPK back go to talk to the Brits, but even they recognize the Durand line, the UN security council recognizes the Durand line, only the Afghans don't and they should too cause they're wasting their time and energy over reconquering an old piece of land, instead of developing their war-torn country that has an HDI on par with sub-saharan Africa.

If the Durand agreement is unfair, then almost every agreement is UNFAIR, that includes America's invasion of Mexico, that means America should hand over Texas and California to Mexico, and Hawaii should go to Japan.

We live in the modern world, things don't work that way anymore.

I see how you're refering to Pakistanis as "Porkistanis"?Are you Indian, cause I've only heard Indians use that term to refer to us, but if you really are Baluchi then you should know that you're a Pakistani citizen too, unless you're from Iran.

I find it funny how you're only whining about Pakistan "occupying" Baluchistan, when Iran and Afghanistan are too, but I guess you love kissing Afghan a**

I know who the Khan of Kalat is(that fat pigskinned mofo), and I've read about Baluch history, what I know is that EVERY district agreed to join Pakistan except Kalat and we annexed them by force(the other districts joined us cause they were pissed of by the Khans dominance).

So only Kalat may have a legitimate claim to independence, but not the rest of Baluchistan.

Almost country has forcefully annexed some parts of it's land, such as India forcefully annexed Hyderabad,Sikkim,Assam,Nagaland and many other states I can't spell.

America annexed most of their states from Mexico and Native Americans, I could go on and on about countries that have annexed parts of their country by force but Pakistan only annexed Kalat(a small district) by force, so it's ignorant to act like Pakistan is the only country that has done that, if any country tries to make Pakistan give up kalat or baluchistan, they would have to give an "occupied" part of their land too

Real Pakistan is all of present day Pakistan + Kashmir(where my family is originally from)

All ethnic groups are real Pakistani, because Pakistan is a diverse country, there is no definition of a Pakistani, just like there is no definition of an American(Black or White).

Before 66 years ago, everybody in present-day Pakistan was an "Indian"
and that includes Baluchis and Pashtuns cause they were part of the "British Indian subcontinent".

Technically we weren't Indian, we were "British Indian", cause India was a British colony, and India didn't become a republic until August 15,1947(1 day after Pakistan.

Besides the term "Indian" was a roman word for "Bharat", and and Bharat is a very diverse country also called the subcontinent.

This region is one of the MOST diverse parts of the world, there are more languages spoken in Indian subcontinent than in EUROPE, so the term Indian is just as valid as the term EUROPEAN.

Somebody from Finland is just as European as somebody from Greece, but they look different and have different cultures, sameway somebody from Punjab is very different from somebody in Tamil Nadu, and somebody from kashmir is very different from somebody in Bengal.

When the British came here the subcontinent was divided in 532 different princeley states(just like Kalat) and they all believed they were different(just like you claim now) but the British put them all together and formed a colony called "India".

SO Indian is a broad term, it isn't race nor is it an ethnic group, it's a nationality and Pakistani Punjabis are Pakistani citizens, not India.

Referring to Punjabis as "daalkhors" is racist and ignorant, it doesn't make you a better person, I've never heard a Punjabi say something racist about Baluchis.

You also need to realize that Punjabis aren't vegetarian, they aren't Hindus so many do eat meat, chicken tikka is really popular in Lahore, you should check out Lahore food street if you love meat so much.

Also Punjab as of right now is richer than Baluchistan, so they can afford meat, don't know about Baluchistan's economy.

"That's why every kid grows up to be Patriotic but still in Balochistan, majority wants seperation, go to Balochistan and you will experience it yourself."

I've met quite a few Baluchis, my cousin is in the army and he's married to a suleimani Baluch girl, so if she hated Pakistan she wouldn't have married him, but I guess us not being Punjabi was a factor.

I had a Baluch friend that was actually from Iran but was born in Karachi, and he loved Pakistan, and also met many Sindhi-Baluchis that loved Pakistan, tho you could argue that aren't really balcuhi.

One of my friends is from the Magsi tribe and he's pro-Pakistan, the only anti-Pakistan Baluch I met was a guy from the Mengal tribe and his dad was an ex-BNP MNA(he was a rich mofo).

I went to Quetta and Ziarat a few years back, didn't see many Baluchis, there were a lot of Pashtuns tho.

According to a Gallup poll last year 63% of Baluchis in Baluchistan were against independence, so if we had a referendum today, Pakistan would win.

[Bengal_Tiger]

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[Karachi]

Afghanistan had signed the agreement in 1893 with BRITAIN not Pakistan, so if you want KPK back go to talk to the Brits, but even they recognize the Durand line, the UN security council recognizes the Durand line, only the Afghans don't and they should too cause they're wasting their time and energy over reconquering an old piece of land, instead of developing their war-torn country that has an HDI on par with sub-saharan Africa.

If the Durand agreement is unfair, then almost every agreement is UNFAIR, that includes America's invasion of Mexico, that means America should hand over Texas and California to Mexico, and Hawaii should go to Japan.

We live in the modern world, things don't work that way anymore.

I see how you're refering to Pakistanis as "Porkistanis"?Are you Indian, cause I've only heard Indians use that term to refer to us, but if you really are Baluchi then you should know that you're a Pakistani citizen too, unless you're from Iran.

I find it funny how you're only whining about Pakistan "occupying" Baluchistan, when Iran and Afghanistan are too, but I guess you love kissing Afghan a**

I know who the Khan of Kalat is(that fat pigskinned mofo), and I've read about Baluch history, what I know is that EVERY district agreed to join Pakistan except Kalat and we annexed them by force(the other districts joined us cause they were pissed of by the Khans dominance).

So only Kalat may have a legitimate claim to independence, but not the rest of Baluchistan.

Almost country has forcefully annexed some parts of it's land, such as India forcefully annexed Hyderabad,Sikkim,Assam,Nagaland and many other states I can't spell.

America annexed most of their states from Mexico and Native Americans, I could go on and on about countries that have annexed parts of their country by force but Pakistan only annexed Kalat(a small district) by force, so it's ignorant to act like Pakistan is the only country that has done that, if any country tries to make Pakistan give up kalat or baluchistan, they would have to give an "occupied" part of their land too

Real Pakistan is all of present day Pakistan + Kashmir(where my family is originally from)

All ethnic groups are real Pakistani, because Pakistan is a diverse country, there is no definition of a Pakistani, just like there is no definition of an American(Black or White).

Before 66 years ago, everybody in present-day Pakistan was an "Indian"
and that includes Baluchis and Pashtuns cause they were part of the "British Indian subcontinent".

Technically we weren't Indian, we were "British Indian", cause India was a British colony, and India didn't become a republic until August 15,1947(1 day after Pakistan.

Besides the term "Indian" was a roman word for "Bharat", and and Bharat is a very diverse country also called the subcontinent.

This region is one of the MOST diverse parts of the world, there are more languages spoken in Indian subcontinent than in EUROPE, so the term Indian is just as valid as the term EUROPEAN.

Somebody from Finland is just as European as somebody from Greece, but they look different and have different cultures, sameway somebody from Punjab is very different from somebody in Tamil Nadu, and somebody from kashmir is very different from somebody in Bengal.

When the British came here the subcontinent was divided in 532 different princeley states(just like Kalat) and they all believed they were different(just like you claim now) but the British put them all together and formed a colony called "India".

SO Indian is a broad term, it isn't race nor is it an ethnic group, it's a nationality and Pakistani Punjabis are Pakistani citizens, not India.

Referring to Punjabis as "daalkhors" is racist and ignorant, it doesn't make you a better person, I've never heard a Punjabi say something racist about Baluchis.

You also need to realize that Punjabis aren't vegetarian, they aren't Hindus so many do eat meat, chicken tikka is really popular in Lahore, you should check out Lahore food street if you love meat so much.

Also Punjab as of right now is richer than Baluchistan, so they can afford meat, don't know about Baluchistan's economy.

"That's why every kid grows up to be Patriotic but still in Balochistan, majority wants seperation, go to Balochistan and you will experience it yourself."

I've met quite a few Baluchis, my cousin is in the army and he's married to a suleimani Baluch girl, so if she hated Pakistan she wouldn't have married him, but I guess us not being Punjabi was a factor.

I had a Baluch friend that was actually from Iran but was born in Karachi, and he loved Pakistan, and also met many Sindhi-Baluchis that loved Pakistan, tho you could argue that aren't really balcuhi.

One of my friends is from the Magsi tribe and he's pro-Pakistan, the only anti-Pakistan Baluch I met was a guy from the Mengal tribe and his dad was an ex-BNP MNA(he was a rich mofo).

I went to Quetta and Ziarat a few years back, didn't see many Baluchis, there were a lot of Pashtuns tho.

According to a Gallup poll last year 63% of Baluchis in Baluchistan were against independence, so if we had a referendum today, Pakistan would win.

punjabis themselves are pretty racist dude, you are just getting the taste of your own medicine from afghans and baloch.

anyways, majority of baloch do not want to be pakistani, this is a fact, where are you getting these stupid stats from? pakistani media? most pakistanis can't even go to balochistan. it's a no go zone for them, except Quetta.

[Bengal_Tiger]

Here are the people who dislike Punjabi imperialism and Punjabi racism.

All Muslims.


1. Pashtun - Gadoonwal

2. Balochi - M17ArnoBaloch

3. Bengali - Bengal_Tiger

4. Mohajir (Indian-origin) - Karachi


but of course they are all wrong and Punjabis are wonderful people who do not discriminate against Mohajirs and call them "kalu" (black), hate Bengalis and genocided them, ridicule Pashtuns and steal their resource and mock Balochis.

Everyone else is wrong and Punjabis are good.

[Bengal_Tiger]

By the way none of the Muslims in the region like Punjabis.

- Bengalis defeated them in 1971 and gained independence.

- Afghans hate them (more than any race in the world more than Bengalis, who in general are a mild race)

- Balochis have made Balochistan a no-go area for Punjabis where they could be killed if they enter.

- Iranians look down on them as inferior and want nothing to do with them.

Punjabi/Pakistani nationalists are obsessed with Bangladesh and how they either want it to become part of Pakistan or be an "ally" "friend" (i.e. serve Pakistani interests) but why don't they try and form a confederation with their Muslim neighbours right next door to them?

Why don't they ask their Muslim "brothers" and neighbours Iranians to form a confederation?

Answer: Because they themselves know Iranians despise Punjabis/Pakistanis as inferior and do not want anything to do with them.


"Good luck" with your confederation with your neighbours and "brothers", the Iranians, Punjabis.

[EvilPakistani]

1. Punjabis are racists and have chosen and continue to chose ethnicity race above Islam.

They pay lip service to "Muslim brotherhood" but wouldn't accept Bengali leaders or fair treatment for Bengalis.

They discriminated against Bengalis in the pre-71 Pakistan and now discriminate against Indian-origin Mohajirs whom they call "kalu" (black).

2. East Pakistan/Bengal was the majority province but was a colony of the western wing, with no proper army. Bengali locals treated in a humiliating way in their own land by west Pakistani civil servants.

3. East Pakistan was a net exporter whilst the west was a net importer. The money made in the East was then just used to fund the west.

4. Bengalis despite being the majority were only given 15% of civil service jobs and were continuously discriminated against.

5. Bengalis won elections in 1970 and the racist West Pakistanis could not accept a Bengali-led government and started massacres slaughtering Muslim men, women and children and also the Hindu community.

Your post above is a complete distortion of reality, full of lies and would not even be accepted by any serious Pakistani scholar, who essentially admit the unfair treatment of Bengalis by racist West Pakistani Punjabis such as yourself.

Anyway we have an independent Bangladesh and are free from the likes of you, whilst your country is burning with

- TTP killing Pakistani generals.
- TTP bombing mosques.
- Balochistan a no-go zone for Punjabi colonists.
- MQM causing terror in Karachi
- Feudal slavery
- Power shortages
- Hated by Afghans
- Looked down upon by Iranians


You Punjabis are hated by all Muslims in the region i.e. Afghans, Pashtuns, Sindhis, Balochis, Muhajirs, Bengalis etc.

Look at yourselves and change yourselves.

Do you suffer from stockholm syndrome?You're a Bengali yet you love kissing up to Afghans.

Ayub Khan and Yahya Khan were the Presidents of Pakistan, when Bengalis were being persecuted, Tikka Khan was the Butcher of East Pakistan and ALL 3 of them were PASHTOONS.

ZA Bhutto the man that denied Bengalis a chance to form a government, was a SINDHI, and Jinnah the man that imposed Urdu on Bengalis was a Gujarati.

So why do you hate Punjabis?And I've never heard of the term "Kalu" being used to refer to muhajirs, I've yet to meet a "Black Muhajir".

Stop making crap, you haven't visited Pakistan, you're just a Bengalis nationalist keyboard warrior that can only talk sh*t.

I admit that we did treat Bengalis like crap, and we should apologize, but it would be unfair to be racist to just one ethnic group in Pakistan, or even all Pakistanis.

"unfair treatment of Bengalis by racist West Pakistani Punjabis such as yourself."

What makes you think I'm a Punjabi?I'm not, not every Pakistani is Punjabi, only 42% are, I did live 2 years in Lahore so I got to interact with Punjabis and most were chill people.

"- TTP killing Pakistani generals.
- TTP bombing mosques.
- Balochistan a no-go zone for Punjabi colonists.
- MQM causing terror in Karachi
- Feudal slavery
- Power shortages
- Hated by Afghans
- Looked down upon by Iranians"


-When have TTP killed any Pakistani Generals?Get your facts straight.
-Yes the TTP is bombing mosques unfortunately, mostly in KPK.
-Really?Many people go on vacation to Ziarat, and I know many people that -travel to Gwadar on the Makhran coastal highway, it's a really good highway, Bangladesh has terrible infrastructure.
-Yes we have feudal slaverly but most third world countries do, most of the Sardars are in Sindh and Baluchistan
-Yes we have power cuts, so does India,Venezuela,Nigeria and even your country Bangladesh, when was the last time you visited Bangladesh?They got HUGE energy problems.
-Yes, we're hated by Afghans, the feeling is mutual, it's not like we care what they think of us,Many Indians and Burmese look down on Bangladeshis.
-Iranians look down on EVERYONE, including Bangladeshis, probably even more.

I have an Iranian-American friend and she doesn't look down on Pakistanis, only the nationalists do.

You're a Bengali suffering from Stockholm syndrome, I guess you're probably a self-hater that claims that your ancestors were from Afghanistan.

Get a life.

[EvilPakistani]

Here are the people who dislike Punjabi imperialism and Punjabi racism.

All Muslims.


1. Pashtun - Gadoonwal

2. Balochi - M17ArnoBaloch

3. Bengali - Bengal_Tiger

4. Mohajir (Indian-origin) - Karachi


but of course they are all wrong and Punjabis are wonderful people who do not discriminate against Mohajirs and call them "kalu" (black), hate Bengalis and genocided them, ridicule Pashtuns and steal their resource and mock Balochis.

Everyone else is wrong and Punjabis are good.

Lol so you meet some people online and think they represent all people of their ethnic group, you need to get out more and make REAL friends, you seem obsessed about Pakistan.

[EvilPakistani]

By the way none of the Muslims in the region like Punjabis.

- Bengalis defeated them in 1971 and gained independence.

- Afghans hate them (more than any race in the world more than Bengalis, who in general are a mild race)

- Balochis have made Balochistan a no-go area for Punjabis where they could be killed if they enter.

- Iranians look down on them as inferior and want nothing to do with them.

Punjabi/Pakistani nationalists are obsessed with Bangladesh and how they either want it to become part of Pakistan or be an "ally" "friend" (i.e. serve Pakistani interests) but why don't they try and form a confederation with their Muslim neighbours right next door to them?

Why don't they ask their Muslim "brothers" and neighbours Iranians to form a confederation?

Answer: Because they themselves know Iranians despise Punjabis/Pakistanis as inferior and do not want anything to do with them.


"Good luck" with your confederation with your neighbours and "brothers", the Iranians, Punjabis.

1. You had Indian and Soviet assistance plus a strategic advantage, so don't gloat cause you're country is pretty weak.

2.Yes Afghans hate us and we feel the same way about them, if they hate Pakistan then they should go back to Afganistan.

3.No, not true, stop believing the mainstream media, and get a life.

4.Iranians think everybody is inferior.

As a Pakistani I can tell you we don't even think about Bangladesh, it's just an obscure ****hole located in southeast Asia, it's no importance to us and we don't need your people as allies cause you're a nation of pussies.

5.Yes we can become allies with Iran, but we won't because they're mostly Shia and we're mostly Sunni, and the Saudis and Turks would be pissed at us we allied with Iran.

Race has no space in foreign relations, we can't afford to ally with a country that will probably be invaded by America.

We were part of the ECO with Iran and Turkey when the Shah was in power.

Get a life man, stop hating on Pakistan, your country is the poorest nation on earth, it's one of the most polluted countries on earth, and you follow the most Hinduized version Islam after Punjabis(it's changing now)

BTW I'm not Punjabi, get that through your bird brain.

[Bengal_Tiger]

Do you suffer from stockholm syndrome?You're a Bengali yet you love kissing up to Afghans.

Ayub Khan and Yahya Khan were the Presidents of Pakistan, when Bengalis were being persecuted, Tikka Khan was the Butcher of East Pakistan and ALL 3 of them were PASHTOONS.

ZA Bhutto the man that denied Bengalis a chance to form a government, was a SINDHI, and Jinnah the man that imposed Urdu on Bengalis was a Gujarati.

So why do you hate Punjabis?And I've never heard of the term "Kalu" being used to refer to muhajirs, I've yet to meet a "Black Muhajir".

Stop making crap, you haven't visited Pakistan, you're just a Bengalis nationalist keyboard warrior that can only talk sh*t.

I admit that we did treat Bengalis like crap, and we should apologize, but it would be unfair to be racist to just one ethnic group in Pakistan, or even all Pakistanis.

"unfair treatment of Bengalis by racist West Pakistani Punjabis such as yourself."

What makes you think I'm a Punjabi?I'm not, not every Pakistani is Punjabi, only 42% are, I did live 2 years in Lahore so I got to interact with Punjabis and most were chill people.

"- TTP killing Pakistani generals.
- TTP bombing mosques.
- Balochistan a no-go zone for Punjabi colonists.
- MQM causing terror in Karachi
- Feudal slavery
- Power shortages
- Hated by Afghans
- Looked down upon by Iranians"


-When have TTP killed any Pakistani Generals?Get your facts straight.
-Yes the TTP is bombing mosques unfortunately, mostly in KPK.
-Really?Many people go on vacation to Ziarat, and I know many people that -travel to Gwadar on the Makhran coastal highway, it's a really good highway, Bangladesh has terrible infrastructure.
-Yes we have feudal slaverly but most third world countries do, most of the Sardars are in Sindh and Baluchistan
-Yes we have power cuts, so does India,Venezuela,Nigeria and even your country Bangladesh, when was the last time you visited Bangladesh?They got HUGE energy problems.
-Yes, we're hated by Afghans, the feeling is mutual, it's not like we care what they think of us,Many Indians and Burmese look down on Bangladeshis.
-Iranians look down on EVERYONE, including Bangladeshis, probably even more.

I have an Iranian-American friend and she doesn't look down on Pakistanis, only the nationalists do.

You're a Bengali suffering from Stockholm syndrome, I guess you're probably a self-hater that claims that your ancestors were from Afghanistan.

Get a life.

1. I am a proud Bengali and am actually disliked by some of the Afghans here because I post news about Bangladesh, my name is "Bengal_Tiger"

2. You are ignorant and are spreading lies. I don't know where to start.

a: Yahya Khan was not a Pakhtun but a Qizilbashi (originally Turkic Shias from Azerbaijan that migrated to Iran then Pakhtunkhwa).

b: Ayub Khan was a Hindko-speaker (though genetically Pakhtun). His son and grandson are anti-Pashtun and are part of the Hazara movement to secede the "Hazara division" from Pakhtunkhwa.

c: Tikka Khan was a Punjabi and was in fact governor of Punjab, when the PPP was in power.

General Tikka Khan was born in a Narma Rajput family in the village of Jochha Mamdot in Kahuta Tehsil near Rawalpindi, in 1915 (in what was then British India)....


General Tikka Khan was appointed the Governor of Pakistan’s largest province, the Punjab, in December 1988.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikka_Khan

3. The TTP have killed Punjabi generals, ignorant Punjabi.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/16/world/asia/insurgent-attack-kills-senior-pakistani-general.html?_r=0

Sanaullah Khan Niazi, killed by the TTP last month. A major general.

4. Pashtun nationalists supported Bengalis in 1971 e.g. Wali Khan and Bacha Khan.

They went out on the streets and risked imprisonment whilst protesting for Bengali rights.

Bangladesh recently gave an award to Pashtun nationalist leader Wali Khan, which they gave to his son Asfandyar Wali.

Asfandyar Wali was not given this award by our embassy in Islamabad but personally invited to Bangladesh.

http://www.pashtunforums.com/world-news/39962.htm

5. Your nationalists on the one hand want Bangladesh to be part of Pakistan again or to be "friendly" (i.e. serve Pakistani interests and agenda) and on the other hand boast how they are of "Arab, Turkish, Afghan and Persian" blood even Ahmed Qureishi's website used to say this.

However despite this you are not aiming for confederation with your next door neighbour and "racial brothers", the Iranians but targeting Bangladesh.


- You are ignorant
- You are a liar
- You are a racist Punjabi

[Bengal_Tiger]

1. You had Indian and Soviet assistance plus a strategic advantage, so don't gloat cause you're country is pretty weak.

2.Yes Afghans hate us and we feel the same way about them, if they hate Pakistan then they should go back to Afganistan.

3.No, not true, stop believing the mainstream media, and get a life.

4.Iranians think everybody is inferior.

As a Pakistani I can tell you we don't even think about Bangladesh, it's just an obscure ****hole located in southeast Asia, it's no importance to us and we don't need your people as allies cause you're a nation of pussies.

5.Yes we can become allies with Iran, but we won't because they're mostly Shia and we're mostly Sunni, and the Saudis and Turks would be pissed at us we allied with Iran.

Race has no space in foreign relations, we can't afford to ally with a country that will probably be invaded by America.

We were part of the ECO with Iran and Turkey when the Shah was in power.

Get a life man, stop hating on Pakistan, your country is the poorest nation on earth, it's one of the most polluted countries on earth, and you follow the most Hinduized version Islam after Punjabis(it's changing now)

BTW I'm not Punjabi, get that through your bird brain.

1. You are a nation of traitors who have always betrayed Muslims and Islam and killed Muslims.

a: You sided with non-Muslims against Muslims when you helped Sikhs to conquer Peshawar.

b: Your 14th Punjab regiment commanded by the British killed Turkish soldiers in Mecca during the early 20th century.

c: The TTP regard your army as an apostate army siding with non-Muslims (America) to bomb Muslims (Afghan/Pashtuns).

You had support from America and China in 1971 but still got your asses kicked and are still crying to this die with pain about your 1971 humiliation.

You attacked Muslims, murdered and raped Muslim women but still got defeated.

Your traitor Punjabi army even murdered Muslim Bengali soldiers of the East Bengal Regiment who had not even done anything but whom you killed because they were Bengali, the same soldiers who had saved your Punjabi ass 6 years earlier when Muslim Bengali generals saved Lahore from being taken by Sikh Indian soldiers.


2. Bengal is a land of brave and wild people who are not easy to tame.

a: The British stopped recruiting from Bengal because of all the rebellions there and switched to recruiting loyal Punjabis.

b: Even the Maoist/Naxalites in India who kill Indian soldiers and have a presence in 1/3 of India and have their own arms factories originate from Bengal.

c: Bengalis have helped many Muslims through out the world including the Turks during their war of independence and also Palestinians.



Lebanon: Volunteers from Bangladesh fighting with Palestinians against the Israelis. 1982. © Chris Steele-Perkins/Magnum Photos


3. Your Pakistani regime and military is obsessed, absolutely obsessed with Bangladesh and send spies in there and seek to keep Bangladesh under Pakistani influence. They also incite the Saudi regime to bully Bangladesh too.

Last year individuals connected to Hizbut Tahrir tried to organize a coup in Bangladesh and were given support by Pakistani intelligence, but guess what, our army foiled it!

On defence.pk there are even Pakistanis who talk of a federation/confederation with Bangladesh!

Anyway ignorant, deceitful lying Punjabi most of my knowledge is not from forums or virtual people but from personal experiences and proper knowledge, whilst you are an ignorant, uninformed bigmouth who says nonsense like

- Tikka Khan is a Pashtun (WRONG)
- TTP have never killed Punjabi generals.


Also Punjabi, remember you are the one who started attacking Bengalis in this thread and started insulting us, abusing us and lying about us.

I have just reacted to your typical Punjabi lying and cunning.

[Bengal_Tiger]

You have betrayed Muslims before.

- You betrayed Muslims in Peshawar when you helped Ranjit Singh, a disbeliever, put Peshawar under Sikh control despite Indian and Afghan ulama (Islamic scholars) telling you not to.

- You betrayed Muslims in Bengal

- You betrayed the Afghans in 2001 when you sided with the Americans to bomb them.

- You betrayed Afghans before that when you funded the Taliban to rule Afghanistan with their backwards, extremist ideology.

- You are betraying Burmese Muslims now by training the Burmese military e.g. submarines.

- You cheat Pashtuns in Pakistan e.g. refusing to supply them with wheat. You want Pashtuns to starve?

You are a nation of traitors and backstabbers.

You personally also seem to have a severe inferiority complex with your obsession with skin colour.

You are a traitor Punjabi, whose nation was defeated and humiliated by mine in 1971.

Remember the Bengali has defeated and humiliated you and you burn with anger, shame and pain at your bitter humiliation, while I take pride in defeating your traitor American-backed army.

Pashtuns and Balochis look at us admiringly as people who defeated the Punjabis and wish to emulate us.

You ever mess with us, or incite your allies the thugs of Saudi Arabia against us there will be severe consequences. Last time you messed with us you suffered the biggest mass surrender in modern history, 90,000 Pakistani soldiers surrendering.

You mess with us and try to use Jamatis to try and incite war and hostility between Bangladesh and India (as we see in defence.pk) as opposed to normal relations, there will be serious consequences.

Punjabi, and traitor Punjabi generals of Pakistan including Kiyani and others you have recieved your warning.

Behave yourselves traitors or there will be severe consequences.

[gadoonwal]

Even if we follow the fake tow nation theory of pakistan then again since 1971 pakistan is no loger needed cus that thoery drowned deep in the bingal sea.
Many pashtuns leaders admire bingalis for their brave stand against evil army of pakistan.
Recently i met a bingali colonal and he said in the 1971 war a punjabi army major asked a pashtun army officer to rape bingali woman.The pashtun refused and said would ,nt rape cus she is muslim.
Punjabis are not fully converted to islam.Many of them still do,nt eat beef.
This illegal state is now ruled by punjabi establishment with help of westren money for the killing of poor pashtuns in the name of terror.
When i look it to the situation of baluchis in awaran wallah they treated baluchis far worst then palastanians.
Tika khan was racist rajput punjabi.
yaha khan iranian
ayub khan hindko speaker with pashtun background.

You may find the real pashtun there too but we call them traitors.
One last thin

About janah sahib
so he was well educated none muslim parsi.He was a member of congress but the britishes hired him to divide india.Janah was sucessful in his mission with the help of british.
Pakistan was under the queen rule untill 1954.Janah during his owth pledge his loyality to the queen not pakistan.
The evil british punished pashtuns and baluch by giving their land to punjabis.
When pashtuns defeated the british army in khyber the queen send the messege to pashtun divide into pieces and untill this day pashtun inside pakistan are divided into four parts.

[EvilPakistani]

1. You are a nation of traitors who have always betrayed Muslims and Islam and killed Muslims.

a: You sided with non-Muslims against Muslims when you helped Sikhs to conquer Peshawar.

b: Your 14th Punjab regiment commanded by the British killed Turkish soldiers in Mecca during the early 20th century.

c: The TTP regard your army as an apostate army siding with non-Muslims (America) to bomb Muslims (Afghan/Pashtuns).

You had support from America and China in 1971 but still got your asses kicked and are still crying to this die with pain about your 1971 humiliation.

You attacked Muslims, murdered and raped Muslim women but still got defeated.

Your traitor Punjabi army even murdered Muslim Bengali soldiers of the East Bengal Regiment who had not even done anything but whom you killed because they were Bengali, the same soldiers who had saved your Punjabi ass 6 years earlier when Muslim Bengali generals saved Lahore from being taken by Sikh Indian soldiers.


2. Bengal is a land of brave and wild people who are not easy to tame.

a: The British stopped recruiting from Bengal because of all the rebellions there and switched to recruiting loyal Punjabis.

b: Even the Maoist/Naxalites in India who kill Indian soldiers and have a presence in 1/3 of India and have their own arms factories originate from Bengal.

c: Bengalis have helped many Muslims through out the world including the Turks during their war of independence and also Palestinians.



Lebanon: Volunteers from Bangladesh fighting with Palestinians against the Israelis. 1982. © Chris Steele-Perkins/Magnum Photos


3. Your Pakistani regime and military is obsessed, absolutely obsessed with Bangladesh and send spies in there and seek to keep Bangladesh under Pakistani influence. They also incite the Saudi regime to bully Bangladesh too.

Last year individuals connected to Hizbut Tahrir tried to organize a coup in Bangladesh and were given support by Pakistani intelligence, but guess what, our army foiled it!

On defence.pk there are even Pakistanis who talk of a federation/confederation with Bangladesh!

Anyway ignorant, deceitful lying Punjabi most of my knowledge is not from forums or virtual people but from personal experiences and proper knowledge, whilst you are an ignorant, uninformed bigmouth who says nonsense like

- Tikka Khan is a Pashtun (WRONG)
- TTP have never killed Punjabi generals.


Also Punjabi, remember you are the one who started attacking Bengalis in this thread and started insulting us, abusing us and lying about us.

I have just reacted to your typical Punjabi lying and cunning.

It's funny how you keep referring to me as a Punjabi, when I've already stated many times before that I'm not, you either have really bad comprehension skills or you've been brainwashed by Bengali textbooks to believe that all Pakistanis are Punjabi(only 42% are), there are many patriotic non-Punjabi Pakistanis and I'm one of them.

Pakistan isn't an ethnonationalist state unlike Bangladesh, all you Bangladeshis are Bengali, but in Pakistan we're really diverse.

You think anybody that disagrees with you is a Punjabi, I could call you an Indian cause most of the anti-Pakistani Bengalis are wannabe Indians.

1.blah blah blah.

a)As if you didn't side with India, and killed and raped any non-Bengalis(Biharis),
there was a suburb of Dhaka called Mirpur that had many Biharis and almost all of them were slaughtered and girls were raped.

b)like I said before I'm not Punjabi so I can't speak for the 14th whatever regiment..

c)We consider the Taliban non-Muslims cause they kill innocent people, we don't care if they see us as 'apostates', America is fighting the Afghan Taliban, we're fighting the TTP(Pakistani version of Taliban) they are two different organizations with the same worldview, we haven't killed any Afghan-Talibans, it's the Afghan army and NATO that are.

If you love the Taliban so much then you can take them with you to your country, it's a sh*thole anyways.

2.Yes, Bengal is a "land of brave and WILD people"
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lol, they're so tough like some Aryan race.

B) We did not have any America support, they didn't give us any support, Nixon didn't want us to win the war, and the Chinese didn't support us either cause they had fought India in 1962 and didn't want to risk another war.

Get out of Bangladesh sometime, you only read your history textbooks that are biased.

I guess you didn't even read my last post,I said that Bengalis were persecuted by us and we need to apologize, I'm not saying Punjabis are saints(or any Pakistani for that matter)

C)Pakistan has also helped other Muslim countries, what's the big deal if you sent some Bengali volunteers to fight, many Pakistanis volunteered to.

Even today Pakistanis are volunteering in Syria with the rebels, and Pakistanis volunteered in Bosnia.

Pakistan also has the second most UN peacekeepers in the world.

During the 1967 Arab-Israeli war, Pakistan sent military officers to Egypt,Syria and Jordan to help them fight Israel, and the Pakistani Airforce managed to shoot down 10 Israeli fighter jets.

During the 1973 Yom Kippur war, Pakistan sent it's pilots to Egypt and Syria,PAF pilots became instructors there and formed the A-flight of 67 Squadron at Dumayr AB. One of the PAF pilots, Flt. Lt. Sattar Alvi flying a MiG-21 shot down an Israeli Air Force Mirage and was honoured by the Syrian government.

Pakistan also assisted the Sri Lankans against the Indian-trained Tamil Tigers.

3.No we're not obsessed with Bangladesh, we only want to influence Bangladesh so we can surround India, just like how India is influencing Afghanistan and they built a port in Iran, we have interests too, so Bangladesh is more like a pawn.

Otherwise people in Pakistan don't care about bangladesh, but your people are obsessed with us, whenever I meet a Bangladeshi they insist on speaking in Urdu, they probably have an inferiority complex.

Bangladeshi supporting Pakistan.mp4 - YouTube

Alright I got Tikka Khan wrong, but Ayub Khan and Yahya Khan were Pashtuns, even if he was a Hindko-speaker.

If you consider Imran Khan a Pashtun even though he doesn't speak Pashto, then you should consider Ayub Khan a Pashtun too, you can't pick and choose the good ones and leave out the black sheeps.

Yahya was a Pashtun too, this what TIME magazine had to say about him:
"Few Pakistanis knew anything about Yahya Khan when he was vaulted into the presidency two years ago. The stocky, bushy-browed Pathan had been army chief of staff since 1966."


Major.General Sanuallah Khan Niazi was a Niazi Pashtun like Imran Khan, he's not Punjabi.

Everybody in Pakistan is getting killed by the Taliban, regardless of ethnic group.