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[khushal]

Did,nt abdurahman sold his land for pounds to britishes?

no, the people on your side refused to fight and join their afghan brethrens.

Did,nt pashtuns invited russains to afghanistan?

no pashtuns expelled Russians from Afghanistan

Did,nt pashtun talibs got weapons and support from pakistan to serve paki interests?

Taliban did not really meet any resistance except in the north who were people supported by Russia, india, and iran.

was it not pashtun karzai serve the interests of west ?

Pashtuns did not install Karzai, Pashtuns are fighting to uninstall him

Did,nt Rabani and masood got support from iran and russains to kill fellow afghans?
Now,
The criminals tajik,uzbik and hazaras warlords enjoy the freedom and respect in afghanistan.They are allowed to take part in any process.They are called loyals.
While the pashtuns are dying in the name of talib.
If pashtun talib is hiding so tajik and uzbiks warlords should be treated the same way.
This double standred must be stoped.
You left pashtun into the hands of ,,isi,,.
These criminals must be brought into justice.
They should be band from any public service.
In the whole of afghanistan a poor malalay joya of farah is btter then those wearing big and heay turban so called pashtuns ca,nt even defend its people.
She has the gutts to speak against these evils.
Find me a single word wrong here with logic?

actually the uzbeks, Tajik, and hazara leaders are in hiding, they cant venture out of their bunkers out of fear that they will be exterminated. The rest of what you said is senseless garbage which does not make sense.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Actually Communist Pashtuns did invite Russians. A non-Pashtun, Babrak Karmal, was the leader of communists back then. A Kashmiri By origin who falsely claimed to be Pashtun just like Abdullah x2.

[khushal]

it is a misnomer to call the Russian invasion an invitation. Russians invaded by force and killed the president of Afghanistan. when someone is invited, they would not kill the host nor face resistance. The facts speak for themselves.

[gadoonwal]

no, the people on your side refused to fight and join their afghan brethrens.
no pashtuns expelled Russians from Afghanistan

Taliban did not really meet any resistance except in the north who were people supported by Russia, india, and iran.
Pashtuns did not install Karzai, Pashtuns are fighting to uninstall him


actually the uzbeks, Tajik, and hazara leaders are in hiding, they cant venture out of their bunkers out of fear that they will be exterminated. The rest of what you said is senseless garbage which does not make sense.

awti bawti,,,,white lie.
first of all when the people of pashtunkhwa were fighting with the sick army your azam khan durani wali of peshwar from kabul did,nt cross the river to join pashtuns against sick.In fact he helped sick against pashtuns.Go and read some pashtu history book.
Was not tarakia pashtuns?
who was najeebullah hanging his father linan ,s photo in his office?
mulla omar and the entire talib leadership originated from akor khatak madrasa hired and paid by ,,isi,,to fight rabani and creat a pupet govt in kabul to serve punjabi interests.Is this not true?
Ofcourse pashtuns fight for karzai against talibs in kandaar during the invasion of afghanistan.
Did pashtun fired a single shot against US in afghanistan?
yes and no
The people fighting against ISAF are called isi agents and talib.The afghan media,govt and people called them pakistani agents right.
Then who els is fighting against invaders?
none.
All of the above abdurahman himself was british dog so why would people fight for him.Abduraman like other afghan king was also farsiwan.
They ruled for centuries.It dose,nt matter the babagan were of pashtun origin.In reality your first and last pashtun king was ahmad shah abdali.
You should be thankful to pashtun of east when thousands of wazari,orakzai and afridi pashtuns helped nader khan to get rid off bacha saka in kabul.
Wait untill 2014 and i will update you on the next buyer

[gadoonwal]

pashtuns of east will go for help anywhere but not to kabulyaans.It is written history.
Most of the time you people runing for food and shelters to our land.It was never your land cus the land is belong to our people.if i need visa from kabulis to go to afghanistan then you are not welcome here either.This brotherhood is onesided.We called you brother and you call us enemy and pakistanis.A parsiwan of iran can become afghan but a real afghan of east can,nt cus you are brainwashed.
We have tested your so called brotherhood in 1930 when few hundered or thousands pashtun crossed into afghanistan.There the afghanis forced them back and even insult women.Your so called brotherhood is tested.

[randolph85]

mulla omar and the entire talib leadership originated from akor khatak madrasa hired and paid by ,,isi,,to fight rabani and creat a pupet govt in kabul to serve punjabi interests.Is this not true?

so the isi decided to create a movement from scratch when they had a well established gulbaddin on their side? that makes no sense. even with a failing hezb i islami, it would be a horrible move to create a movement of illiterates with no strong pedigree in a society where connections and lineage is everything when it comes to politics. btw, what punjabi interests did the taliban serve?

if the punjabis wanted to destroy afghanistan, they wouldn't create a group that brought order to the country, they would of kept supporting hezb i islami and watched the country go deeper into **** than it did already.

Ofcourse pashtuns fight for karzai against talibs in kandaar during the invasion of afghanistan.

money talks, so do vendettas.

The people fighting against ISAF are called isi agents and talib.The afghan media,govt and people called them pakistani agents right.
Then who els is fighting against invaders?

isi agents by who? the afghan gov't allied entities and people who don't know any better? what a big surprise. like how the mujahadin were american puppets in the 80s and the government was friendly to islam, right?

the taliban are fighting against the invaders, most of whom are no longer a central command of mullah omar. hezb i islami is also fighting the invaders. find me an afghan politician who praises occupation and condemns resistance and ill show you an SOB who lives in a mansion thanks to the invasion.

You should be thankful to pashtun of east when thousands of wazari,orakzai and afridi pashtuns helped nader khan to get rid off bacha saka in kabul.

you praise tribes for kicking out an "outsider" who was actually a son of the land, but condemn people who resist the occupation of the country by people from the other side of the world who think you are nothing but a sand ******. great.


disclaimer: i have no idea what you are talking about.

[khushal]

awti bawti,,,,white lie.
first of all when the people of pashtunkhwa were fighting with the sick army your azam khan durani wali of peshwar from kabul did,nt cross the river to join pashtuns against sick.In fact he helped sick against pashtuns.Go and read some pashtu history book.

that was in the past. you had 200 years after that incident. The sihks came to Peshawar and the brits after them, but the brits came to Kabul too and they were kicked out. you cant blame everything on one baighyrat durrani. You act as though there were no traitors in Kabul. There were many traitors, shah shuja was a traitor but so what, for every shah shuja, there was a Dost Mohammad, for every Najibullah, there was a Gulbadin, etc. Your submission to the Brits and now Panjab lies with you.

Was not tarakia pashtuns?

yes, whats your point?

who was najeebullah hanging his father linan ,s photo in his office?

what does this even mean?

Randolph answered the rest of your idiotic post. your trying to extend your own baighyrati to all afghans. Its not working.

[gadoonwal]

so the isi decided to create a movement from scratch when they had a well established gulbaddin on their side? that makes no sense. even with a failing hezb i islami, it would be a horrible move to create a movement of illiterates with no strong pedigree in a society where connections and lineage is everything when it comes to politics. btw, what punjabi interests did the taliban serve?

if the punjabis wanted to destroy afghanistan, they wouldn't create a group that brought order to the country, they would of kept supporting hezb i islami and watched the country go deeper into **** than it did already.



money talks, so do vendettas.



isi agents by who? the afghan gov't allied entities and people who don't know any better? what a big surprise. like how the mujahadin were american puppets in the 80s and the government was friendly to islam, right?

the taliban are fighting against the invaders, most of whom are no longer a central command of mullah omar. hezb i islami is also fighting the invaders. find me an afghan politician who praises occupation and condemns resistance and ill show you an SOB who lives in a mansion thanks to the invasion.



you praise tribes for kicking out an "outsider" who was actually a son of the land, but condemn people who resist the occupation of the country by people from the other side of the world who think you are nothing but a sand ******. great.


disclaimer: i have no idea what you are talking about.

you would never know cus your side is fully brainwashed by parsiwasn historains and media.
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Haqani is even bought land in pakistan he is pakistani holding paki id card.
Gulbudin was kicked out cus he was no longer usefull to islam abad.His gang was not good in fighting against tajiks.Also pakistan was suspicous of his loyality.

The entire talib leadership was hired,paid and trained by ,,isi,,.
Untill this day talibs are fighting for pakistan.
The plan was to creat pupet govt in kabul to serve punjabi interests by following the creation of fifth province of pakistan.
They did by giving support to kashmiris and others.
It was backyard for dumping rubish.
Like naseerullah babar said ,,talibs are my boys,,.

why would pakistan destroy afghanistan during talib era cus the plan was to make fifth province.Why would someone destroy its province.It was doubel game.

[Khilji]

send him to rabbani, najibullah, massoud, mazari, daud daud, kazimi,to the brother of karzai to benazir bhutto to siaul haq to abdal haq and his brother etc tashakor

[afghan]

Did,nt abdurahman sold his land for pounds to britishes?

thats non-sense amir abdurrahman khan wouldn't have done that to protect his power. how did he knew who was loyal to him among Pashtuns and who wasn't?
to Dumb Khushal if pashtun were siding the british, then why did pashtun lived in miseries under british and fought till the last.

[ComradePashtun]

Futile and silly squabble. Grow up. Gadoonwala you are showing us your true colors. I am past this Paki Afghan Pashtun crap. When I used to tackle people like you before I used to be called Farsiwan etc. by some people. It was pointless then anyway.

You guys are not even discussing history and current affairs objectively. Our main source of failures persist to be division and not thinking in collective terms and as a true Pashtun nation. We say it but we don't mean and still lack commitment.

Just respect each other and have tolerance. I know, I feel I should be the last one saying all this.

Don't be mad next time when you come to Afg Gadoonwala avoid getting visa just like the Afghans do who illegally enter your country.