Dividing Afghanistan

[Tiger Khan]

Why can we not talk about dividing afghanistan? See the era of world domination/invasion is over. The idea is to give northern provinces that are dominated by Tajiks and Uzbeks to their respetive countries and the remaining provinces shall stay in Afghanistan. In that way Afghanistan will be more representative of pure afghans, while Tajiks and Uzbeks whom are more liberal and pro-west can be a part of Ex-soviet states that are pretty liberal and almost athiest. Plus this issue of them always siding with invaders will be tackled once and for all. As Hazaras, Aimak, and Nuristanies are neither Tajik nor Uzbek they stay in Afghanistan, plus they collectively only dominate around four provinces.

[Smarty]

You must be fond of khayali pulao......why hazara and aimak stay with pashtuns when they see tajiks and uzbeks getting their wishes fulfilled? dont you think shia hazaras would be more uncomfortable in highly pashtun country of yours?.....you ignored the baloch people of Afghanistan, their counterparts in pakistan would want those areas returned too them.

Come to pakistan, why you have included pashtun belt of pakistan in your imaginary map of pure Afghanistan?.....are there any pashtun separatists at all?....dont tell me those spineless ANPites have the guts to take on professional paki army.......Moreover there are many pashtuns who are more loyal to Islamabad/punjab than punjabis themselves, what about them? .They would shoot you for being traitor to pakistan.
What about hindkowans and seraikis of KPK? They would prefer punjab over you.

[Tiger Khan]

You must be fond of khayali pulao......why hazara and aimak stay with pashtuns when they see tajiks and uzbeks getting their wishes fulfilled? dont you think shia hazaras would be more uncomfortable in highly pashtun country of yours?.....you ignored the baloch people of Afghanistan, their counterparts in pakistan would want those areas returned too them.

Come to pakistan, why you have included pashtun belt of pakistan in your imaginary map of pure Afghanistan?.....are there any pashtun separatists at all?....dont tell me those spineless ANPites have the guts to take on professional paki army.......Moreover there are many pashtuns who are more loyal to Islamabad/punjab than punjabis themselves, what about them? .They would shoot you for being traitor to pakistan.
What about hindkowans and seraikis of KPK? They would prefer punjab over you.

Smart A**. It was just discussion starter.. Also i have given Hidkowans and Saraikies to pakistan.. Balouchis dont have a significant presence in Afghanistan.. even Nimroz is mostly pashtun (As pashtun live on the rivers, which is a densly populated area). Also the map is about Afghanistan, not pashtunistan.. we are only getting rid of Tajiks and Uzbeks since they have a country next door. Hazaras are in the smack middle of Afghanistan and we do not have any Hazara Shia Country next to them..
Pashtuns are actually become more open about idea of independent pashtunistan.. thanks to war in Fata, Drones, Proposal of Hazara provices,no support of local cultures/languages by Islamabad and MQM.

[Tiger Khan]

Aimak are a majority in Ghowr Province, while Hazara makes a majority in Bamiyan and Daikhundi provicnes only. Both these ethnic groups are surrounded by pashtuns on three sides. Finally, i do agree with smarty that alot of pashtuns are extremly patriotic.. but i think they should be open about idea of sucession if their rights are not given to them. Pakistan is a federation.. its creation was not decreed in quran or hadith.

[Khostai]

To be hones Tajiks of Tajikistan, Uzback of Uzbeckistan don't want to live in the same countries with the Tajiks and Uzbacks from Afghanistan, they see them as poor uneducated and extremist types, so even if we gave them those provinces they would refuse it lol. The same goes to Turkmen.

And those provinces are really mixed, you can find Pashtuns almost everywhere up in north, so I don't know what you want to do with them? emigrating them all to the south would not happen, becuase many would't let there houses and land that they owned for generation behind them.

[Tiger Khan]

To be hones Tajiks of Tajikistan, Uzback of Uzbeckistan don't want to live in the same countries with the Tajiks and Uzbacks from Afghanistan, they see them as poor uneducated and extremist types, so even if we gave them those provinces they would refuse it lol. The same goes to Turkmen.

And those provinces are really mixed, you can find Pashtuns almost everywhere up in north, so I don't know what you want to do with them? emigrating them all to the south would not happen, becuase many would't let there houses and land that they owned for generation behind them.

Yes, i agree that pashtuns make up around 35% of Baghlan province, 25% of Faryab province, 5-15% of panjsher, parwan, badakhshan, etc etc. But i think that this is a sour pill we have to take.. pashtuns from these provinces can move to provinces of afghanistan close to them such as Herat, Badghais, Kunduz, Wardak, Kabul, Balkh etc etc.. Moreover, not just Pashtuns but other ethnicities such as Hazaras, Aimaks, Pashais, Baluch can move to Afghanistan, while tajiks and uzebks can move to Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. This would also mean that Tajiks and Uzbeks would have to leave southern, Western, Eastern and Central Afghanistan where they are a minority. Turkmens are not a majority in any province so why does it matter.
Finnally, i have to add that Uzbeks are still acceptable but Tajiks are much further away than pashtuns. Plus know that Tajikistan is a failed state, it survives on Aid and there is not much industry there.
See there are atleast 50 million pashtuns strong, we dont need anyone if we get our act togather. Plus pashtuns are hard working and they love education (given an opportunity) so they have all the ingredients.. Just need direction and leadership.

[Karachi]

I think muslim countries should really learn from countries like India, on how to live together. They have 300 different languages, cultures, traditions etc... yet they seem get along pretty well for the most part. Unfortunately because of nationalism, ethnic hatred, muslims will always keep fighting each other

[Kushan Prince]

Not surprised this thread is started by a Pashtun from Pakistan. Ironically your people have stolen lands from the hindokwans, kohistanis and chitralis and annexed it with your illegal "Khyber Pakhtunkhwa." Infact, i am not surprised that hindokwans want their freedom from you punjabi slaves, forcing Pashto on non Pashtuns like a true nationalist.

Oh and why should we give Ghor to a bunch of Turks? In-case you are unaware, Ghor is considered the original homeland of All Pashtuns. We have enough ethnic tensions in Afghanistan as it is, we don't need a paki like you causing more problems. If i were you my friend, i would worry about getting freedom from the ISI Punjabis and stop being their ghulams instead of worrying about Afghanistan.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

No need to discuss.

America has already all sort of such plans to prevent a civil war in Afghanistan.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Not surprised this thread is started by Pashtun from Pakistan. Ironically your people have stolen lands from the hindokwans, kohistanis and chitralis and annexed it with your illegal "Khyber Pakhtunkhwa." Infact, i am not surprised that hindokwans want their freedom from you punjabi slaves, forcing Pashto on non Pashtuns like a true nationalist.

Oh and why should we give Ghor to a bunch of Turks? In-case you are unaware, Ghor is considered the original homeland of All Pashtuns. We have enough ethnic tensions in Afghanistan as it is, we don't need a paki like you causing more problems.

Infact we now have even demanded the mianwali to be merged with KPK again and so does the Capital terriroty including the margalla hills

You might also be surprised by a new province called southern pakhtunkhwa emerging from Balochistan which would include all the south region of Balochistan down as far as the border of kalat.

The Blog mentioned than 27% of Pakistan by Land would be under pashtuns despite being just 14-15% of the total Pakistan Population.

[Khostai]

Yes, i agree that pashtuns make up around 35% of Baghlan province, 25% of Faryab province, 5-15% of panjsher, parwan, badakhshan, etc etc. But i think that this is a sour pill we have to take.. pashtuns from these provinces can move to provinces of afghanistan close to them such as Herat, Badghais, Kunduz, Wardak, Kabul, Balkh etc etc.. Moreover, not just Pashtuns but other ethnicities such as Hazaras, Aimaks, Pashais, Baluch can move to Afghanistan, while tajiks and uzebks can move to Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. This would also mean that Tajiks and Uzbeks would have to leave southern, Western, Eastern and Central Afghanistan where they are a minority. Turkmens are not a majority in any province so why does it matter.
Finnally, i have to add that Uzbeks are still acceptable but Tajiks are much further away than pashtuns. Plus know that Tajikistan is a failed state, it survives on Aid and there is not much industry there.
See there are atleast 50 million pashtuns strong, we dont need anyone if we get our act togather. Plus pashtuns are hard working and they love education (given an opportunity) so they have all the ingredients.. Just need direction and leadership.

I am sorry but this is not realistic and could not happen.

[Tiger Khan]

I am sorry but this is not realistic and could not happen.

Well i agree.. but anything is possible.

[randolph85]

down with ethnic nationalism.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

More internal division leads to more weakness and conflict.

[randolph85]

i don't know why people want to see their countrymen as enemies. minorities in afg have little in common with their counterparts abroad and have proven in the past that they are willing to die for afghanistan, how many of these coward pashtun nationalists in pakistan were willing to die for afghanistan? none, thats how many.